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2009 Free Agency / Draft / Cuts / Re-Signings

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Boltergeist, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. Boltergeist
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    With an 8-8 record as a best case scenario for our season, let the offseason changes begin. I'll offer some moves I would like to see and would love to read other opinions.

    One assumption (and I loathe the fact that this will probably happen): Norv Turner and coaching staff are retained.

    Free Agency:

    We will probably be frugal spenders...There will be no Julius Peppers' coming to SD...but I think that there are players out there who could help. We need help on both lines (OL badly) and at backup RB and Safety.

    I would love for us to look at Marc Colombo OT Dallas, Jeff Saturday C Indy, J. Babineaux DT Atl, R. Bernard DT Sea, Derrick Ward RB NYG and Brian Dawkins S- Philly. Also, if Oakland releases Fargas, add him to the list. Here is a somewhat complete list:

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Free Agency/2008/listbypos.htm

    Cuts:

    Goff, Clary (at least demote him in favor of Shelton or better), Igor (or keep him as depth until contract is up in a year), Wilhelm, Manumaleuana (has regressed badly since 2006), Softwick (at least demote him also...we can do better than a 250 lb softy who gets run over every other play), Chambers (we may need contract room and VJ is our #1 going forward and Floyd looks like a solid #2)

    Re-sign:

    Merriman (should be this franchise's top priority), Sproles (too important as a ST sparkplug and screen pass threat), Rivers- should try to lock in the long-term deal with Rivers but don't throw crazy money at him if his agent tries to bend the Chargers over like after he was drafted.

    Draft:

    For the third year in a row I'm on the BEEF Jihad. If we get an Oher or someone who can really help our OLine, that should be THE top priority....I also wouldn't be against Maualuga or another defensive playmaker. We need to find depth for the DL also.

    Short Summary:

    Re-tool the offensive line to be a more physical run blocking unit. Get an adequate replacement for Michael Turner and someone who could take some of the beating off of LT. Get depth on the DL and try to find a playmaker at the Safety position. Above everything, sign Shawne Merriman. The defense is night and day with or without him.
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    I agree for the most part and I am not a college guru on draft.

    One thing that would make the diff on offense is BEEF and we all know River is not a scrambler. So if we are going to have a throwing Offense protect the QB. We need to build our defense and not have to just depend on Merriman.
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    IMO we need to go back to a run first style....and I'm hoping what we saw against the Raiders is an indication that Norv is caving a little bit. Better blocking up front helps us do that. The pass blocking has actually been decent.

    Statistically our winning percentage during the Rivers era has been overwhelmingly higher when he throws under 25 times a game.
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    Yeah, i want Norv out but looks like he will return

    Wouldnt mind Columbo and i wanted us to sign Ward as a FA in the offseason but we didnt. Dawkins IMO is too old to give him a lot of money and he will want his last big paycheck.
    Id add OG Jerri Evans. As for OT's, not sure there is anyone realistic as starters go but maybe Stacy Andrews but ill assume Cinci will resign him. I think Runyan wants to stay in philly and not sure if he is a realistic signing for us.

    For DL i want Chris Canty as i did on draft day!!! Make that happen AJ!!

    Babinaeux would have to play DE for us as he is only 284 lbs.

    Id also love to have Sean Jones and wanted us to trade for him while he had a tore up knee during his rookie year hoping we could get him on teh cheap but really, id be happy if we only signed Jones and Canty. Two players like that would be good for us in FA'cy....but i dont think safety is a high priority for AJ....so get Jeri Evans if that is the case.


    Dont agree on Chambers . He isnt going anywhere and though i think Hardwick is too light, i dont think he is going anywhere.

    Agree, resign Merriman and Rivers. Rivers is going to get a big contract in the Ben Rothlisberger range if he wins teh top rated QB and gets another probowl nod.. Thats all there is to it.

    BEEF! ...I agree. Dont want Maualuga..i think he is over hyped and dont really like what i see from him. He wont fit our defense too good and i actually think he might make a better OLB with us than a ILB....but dont want him at all unless he falls like Siler did.

    Short Summary:

    Agree, but i think 2010 is the year we go with a high pick on a RB.
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    I agree....... because IMO Rivers has been much more effective when we can threaten the run and then throw the pass. That was Marty ball. Rivers needs protection. Red zone has been our weakness on offense because IMO there is no surprise due to no run capability . On Defense weakness is because we can't get them off the field. The free safety position is suspect. Of course Merriman being gone is a part of that.
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    Cut CC ehh?? I'd rather let go of Vincent Jackson, I mean CC doesen't drop open passes when we need them.
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    Jahri Evans is almost pro bowler status. If cheap, he'd help this team a lot. Him and Dielman would solidify the G spots for years. I doubt we spend for him though.

    Richie Incognito could be good too. He can also play C I believe.

    Gabe Watson could be a nice 340 lb. NT for us. The Cardinals also have Alan Branch at NT/DT, so maybe they'll let one of them go and he'd be relatively cheap. But since Jamal is having a renaissance it might not be a big priority.

    I agree with Sean Jones. He'd be sweet on this secondary.
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    He had no problem destroying our O-line. Plugged LT pretty good don't ya think? :icon_shrug:
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    My priorities for player acquisitions after the season follow the KISS theory. Beef and then more Beef. If good linebacker falls to us fine, but we need to reinforce our line play, not only for depth and perhaps a starter but maybe to light a fire under both sides of the line under the vets from the competition. I expect LT to bounce back next season, along with Gates. If any receiver gets cut, it ought to be Davis and not CC or anyone else. Justin Fargas would be worth a look if he gets cut lose. Our major problems began and ended in the trenches, while part of them ended with Cottrell's departure.
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    how about no FA signings. draft reddick from miami and some dlinemen in the mid rounds and it is a success.

    26 Anthony Reddick S 6-0 210 Sr. Fort Lauderdale, FL
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    He is a good player but Atlanta doesnt play a 3-4 and doesnt require him to be at least 325- 330 lbs to play NT. He is a good size/weight to play DE though and even then he would be our lightest one. But he is big enough for it.
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    I'm pretty sure Colombo has either signed or is in the process of signing an extension

    I've said it before and I'll say it again

    Cut
    Goff
    Hart
    Igor

    Trade
    Matt Wilhelm to Detroit for Cory Redding (ta-dah, new high motor DE)
    Stephen Cooper to anyone if the price is good

    Sign
    Vernon Carey (New RT)
    Brian Dawkins (if at all possible)
    Ray Lewis (if possible, if not then Bart Scott0
    Chris Canty

    Resign
    Merriman (I don't care how)

    Draft
    1. Rey Malauga ILB
    3a. BJ Raji/Terrance Taylor NT
    3b. Herman Johnson RG LSU - biggest guy I've ever seen
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    Will LT be back?
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    Once again, beef is a priority. Whether AJ will deem to address it this year is another question.

    Duke Robinson is a road grader & could work at either RG or RT. Solid, big, & can move. On the defensive side - yeah, Jamal looks good right now, but we MUST get a viable replacement in soon, especially if we're staying with the 3-4. Raji or Brace from BC both look good for interior DL's.

    IF we look at a RB, I'm hoping that Rashad Jennings falls to the 4th round. 6'1", 230 with 4.4 speed - another MT? Small college (Liberty University) so he could drop.

    I'd love a center upgrade, but doubt it happens. If so, Mack is the cream of that crop this year.

    I don't look for AJ to do much in FA (surprise, surprise!!). His priority should be getting Merriman extended. And find us a safety to replace Hart!!!

    We have some possible trade bait - Wilhelm, Cooper, Buster Davis, Hart, Igor, CC - who knows what could happen after the way that this year has played out. It sure would be nice to get back into the second round - there will be some real quality there for teams who still have their pick (damn you, AJ!!).

    One of the things that we MUST do this year is stop looking at our personnel through rose-colored glasses & realize that we have more missing/weak pieces than we thought. We're not in a "just a tweak here or there" mode, IMO. There are weaknesses to be addressed & players who aren't what we either thought they were or wanted them to be. Take off the blinders, AJ, & get some quality beef in here. Otherwise, we get pushed around again next season. :tdown:
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    Would not quite call average or below average players trade bait........But you guys dont have much to add to your team.....I think you guys have like one pick int he first 6 rounds or something like that........
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    Buck

    In true fan fashion, we were all guilty of this pre-season.
    I certainly had a dozen All-Pros and a 13-3 record on my predictor.
    Norv's a ****, but for one reason or another, the big-time players have failed to deliver.
    I agree though that AJ's job is to forsee which players are no longer up to the task. What he'll have to decide is if this year was a blip for some of these guys.
    I hope so or we're in deep doodoo.
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    i no that runningback isnt a huge need of ours right now but wouldnt kenny irons be a good pickup
    i liked him coming out of college and he was a 2nd round pick to the bengals in the 2007 draft and is now a free agent due to his injury
    wat do u think about bringing him in for a look during the off season?
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    Sorry buddy but this isn't about "depth" for the DL or whatever else. AJ must acknowledge that a lot of the players on this team flat out SUCK at the game of football and REBUILD. If anyone thinks the chargers will contend for a superbowl within the next 2 years they can dream on. Drafting Michael Oher would be nice because he is an outstanding player but Michael Oher will not turn the Chargers into superbowl contenders. We need at least 1 star defensive end, 1 star interior linebacker and lots of defensive depth before our defense is anywhere near elite.
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    I don't recall saying this was going to make us a "superbowl contender" again...but whatever..we were in fact a game away from the Superbowl last year with a nearly identical roster (minus one very key player)...If you think that a team needs to have pro-bowl talent and superior depth at every position, then you could pretty much say that every team in the NFL can also "dream on" about making the Superbowl...but someone has to do it.

    This team needs to fix some problems and get back to what we do well. Controlling the clock...creating turnovers...high pressure defense....strong running game....superior execution in the passing game.

    You're entitled to your opinion..but I think there are some areas which can definitely be addressed this offseason to get us right back in the driver's seat in this division sooner rather than later.
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    The middle of our defense after Jamal is like a virgin vagina getting pounded for the first time- it's bad.

    Beef and ILB's would be a GREAT start.

    Sign Sproles. :yes:
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    Sadly our defense would have been better the past two years with Donnie and Randall
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    Hey Concudan... Shouldn't you be in here giving everybody a hard time and calling them "couch GMs?" :icon_shrug:
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    yeah those fools were solid. not stars though, but they'd do their jobs. Godfrey and Cooper was a great rotation at one spot.
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    both have gone downhill since leaving the Chargers but who knows, they might've been able to contribute more, especially Donnie.
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    Maybe in 2007 when we went to the playoffs anway....He would have been a slight upgrade over the production Wilhelm game us....last year he tailed off from what he had done in the previous 5 years with the Chargers....but this year he's fallen off badly....Playing in only 7 games he only has 35 tackles 0 sacks....0 INTs.

    I would wager that most of us would be pi$$ed right now if we had signed Donnie to the big contract he wanted after 06 only to have age seriously catch up to him the next year and be rendered almost useless after a couple of years. He is done and has one foot into retirement.

    Also, Godfrey is retired...right?

    It's nice to think that players will always play at a high level, but it's pretty obvious to me that we got rid of Donnie and Godfrey at just the right time. It's unfortunate that our young guys haven't stepped up...but some of us who are lamenting Donnie and Godfrey leaving need to get over it.
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    Agree, and over the last two years Donnie's been bothered alot more by injuries then before. Godfrey was basically done, no questions about it. Edwards might've had another three year deal or so left in the tank but that's assuming no injuries. I agree though that its better to get rid of the players a year too early then a year too late, but still its a tough game to play
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    I think we had to roll the dice with that one. I mean, we are already on thin ice in trying to re-sign some big time players...Having Donnie under a big contract would have made it all the tougher...and that would have been wasted cap money at this point.

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