AFC West 2008 - Do the 3 dwarves beneath us stand a chance??

Very well then... Like bong hits after masturbating! :icon_rofl:

Heh heh heh... I should have expected no less of the members of this forum.

To say that the Broncos are operating the "same" offensive line as last year is laughable. Ben Hamilton was out all of last year with a concussion. He's back. Ryan Clady is new at LT. Ryan Harris is starting at RT for the first time. Tom Nalen is back after being injured reserve since October of last year. Oh, but I guess at least Chris Kuper played at least three downs last year at O-Line, so we'd better call it the same line as last year. I think Daniel Graham and Tony Sheffler are the only ones on the line that haven't changed, and they're are freaking tight ends.

Now onto wide receivers:

The 2007 Broncos began the season like so:

1. Javon Walker
2. Brandon Marshall
3. Brandon Stokely.

our backups last year were:
Glenn Martinez, and a slew of guys who are no longer on the team, nor did they contribute all of last year.

The 2008 Broncos look like:

1. Brandon Marshall
2. Eddie Royal
3. Brandon Stokely

And our backups as of now are:
Darrell Jackson, Keary Colbert, Glenn Martinez, Clifford Russell and Samie Parker.

The offensive line is a question mark. The WR corps has upgraded significantly.

At RB, the Broncos have:

1. Selvin Young, whom has put on about 10 pounds of muscle since last year.
2. Andre Hall, who is starting to look better than Selvin Young.
3. Anthony Aldridge, one of the fastest runners out of college this year.
4. The loss of Ryan Torain for half the season certainly does hurt the running game of Denver, but I expect him to be back mid-season to pick up any slack from Selvin Young/Andre Hall.
5. Michael Pittman is effectively worthless here, other than a final fallback if all else goes wrong. He's old and can hardly muster more than 3 yards against 3rd string defenses this preseason.

At FB, the Broncos drafted Peyton Hillis, probably the top-ranked fullback in the draft this year, whom plowed the way for Darren McFadden at Arkansas. He will likely start at fullback once he's up to speed from a hamstring injury. Cecil Sapp has been more than effective at his job in the mean time.

At QB, most importantly there was quite a noticeable difference in Culter's first year and second year as QB - for one, while he could manage the game better in season 2, it was very apparent that his arm strength and energy decreased as the season went on. Undiagnosed diabetes will do this. Thus far in preseason, it's fascinating to watch that arm strength and energy come back - and he is an exciting quarterback to watch. Having seen all of his games from the start of his career in Denver, it's very obvious that the kid has talent - after watching a slew of quarterbacks come in and out of here, including Tommy Maddox from the Elway-injury days of the mid-90's, it's refreshing to see someone who has yet to have a 3-interception game, coming into the third year of their career. But hey, you want to deny that, go right ahead. I'm sure you'll see more of him over the next decade.

You're talking all offense here, But what about your defense? You do realize you neeed BOTH to win right?

I just don't see your secondary fending off anything. And your front 7...well...not much to get excited about there either.

I've been over to Orange Mane, let's not pretend like Broncos fans are kings of football knowledge.

Is he back in full knee diving form?

:yes:

We have one friend over at CBS sports.com

Nalen is back all right, back on the operating table!

I like to make fun of Raider Nation's stupidity:
"I thnik Darren McFadden and Michael Bush will be the best RB combo in the AFC West.."
-From some fan on RF.net with the unabomber sketch for a profile picture
I don't THINK he thniks at all.

Raider fan: Raiders Superbowl 09 Baby!...?
uh...no

"Darth Vader is a punk compared to Al Davis," Hunter S Thompson

Raider Stats:
2007 Ranked 28th in Sacks with 27
2006 Ranked 19th in Sacks with 34
2005 Ranked 19th in Sacks with 36
2004 Ranked 31st in Sacks with 25
2003 Ranked 28th in Sacks with 25

Raider fans are delusional...and stupid.

The Broncos' offense has been the real problem the past few years. There's no point in having even a mediocre defense if your offense isn't going to score points. When Jake Plummer was pulled after the Bronx went 7-4, the Bronx should have been 4-7, if that. They BARELY pulled out with several of those wins, and this was ultimately why Plummer was swapped out with Cutler.

Last year was more of the same, with a few bright spots, but ultimately a worse performance by the offense, leading to a few blowouts, and our defense being on the field almost non-stop.

Even the Bronx's superbowl teams didn't have the greatest defense - it was the offense that kept teams on their heels, usually scoring 14 points in the first quarter.

So while this year's team has generally the same defense (with a few minor upgrades), it's the offense that looks to be stronger. I could debate this all day, but until the ball snaps, who knows.

Yo! I checked out thos sites and good God! That **** is amazing. Where did you learn to that kind of camera work? But I have yet to see someone who can act...sorry just saying. Then again, I'm a poly sci major...wtf do I know about acting?

I will have to say Cutler looks real good. I'm glad he has his diabetes under control. But I don't think your offense is any better than last year. Your passing game has gone up but the run has dropped. And like you said the defense is basically the same. The same D that everyone could run against. Heck, I could have a 100 yard game against the Doncs D. Beautiful avatar I have don't you think?

Cutler looked better...in preseason. Honestly, I don't see the Broncos winning in Oakland or against SD in Game 2.

And your avatar...don't ever change it. :icon_toast: