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Charger Roster Evaluation Draft Solution Board

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by RMANCIL, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. RMANCIL

    RMANCIL New Member

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    5. Kansas City Chiefs** -- Jake Long, OT, Michigan
    Record: 4-12 | Needs: OT, DE, C, WR, CB
    Previous mock selection: Same
    Quarterback still is a question mark, but the Chiefs' No. 1 priority this offseason should be solidifying their offensive front. Long is unquestionably the most dominant offensive lineman in the 2008 class and could help Kansas City achieve its goal in a hurry. He has the versatility to play either right or left tackle, and his combination of size, technique, athletic ability and a mean streak would improve the Chiefs' line almost immediately.


    6. New York Jets -- Vernon Gholston*, DE, Ohio State
    Record: 4-12 | Needs: WR, NT, OLB, ILB, G
    Projected pick: Same
    This could be a bit of a reach for Gholston, who flashes top-10 talent in some games (three sacks against Michigan this season) but disappears in too many others. However, don't be surprised if he works his way into the top 10 simply because this year's crop of elite edge rushers does not meet the level of demand. That said, Gholston is one of the premier pass-rushing prospects in the 2008 class, and he would be the right fit as a rush linebacker in the Jets' 3-4 scheme.

    7. N.E. Patriots (from 5-11 San Francisco) -- Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
    Record: 18-1 | Needs: ILB, CB, OLB, OL depth
    Previous mock selection: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
    The Patriots would like to inject some youth at inside linebacker, but there isn't a player worth selecting this high, with USC's Rey Maualuga and Ohio State's James Laurinaitis both returning to school in the fall. The next priority is to find a replacement for Asante Samuel, a free agent who can't be franchised for a second consecutive year. McKelvin currently is the top-rated cornerback in a 2008 crop that is deep but lacks elite talent atop the board. As always, look for the Patriots to shop this pick heavily.


    8. Baltimore Ravens -- Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
    Record: 5-11 | Needs: CB, QB, OLB, LOT, DT
    Previous mock selection: Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
    Baltimore would like to use this pick to put an end to a seemingly endless pursuit for a franchise quarterback. Unfortunately, there isn't one worth selecting here with Ryan off the board. Instead, the Ravens could go with the best value on the board (Ellis) or fill a hole at either cornerback (Mike Jenkins) or left tackle (Ryan Clady). Knowing the Ravens' draft-day discipline, Ellis will be the pick in this scenario.




    9. Cincinnati Bengals -- Derrick Harvey*, DE, Florida
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: DT, LB, OT, DE, TE
    Previous mock selection: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
    The Bengals have a much bigger need for interior help, but if Dorsey and Ellis are gone, there isn't a defensive tackle worth drafting at No. 9. Harvey is a bit of a reach here, but coach Marvin Lewis' defense is starving for potential playmakers, and Harvey possesses the pass-rushing skills and frame to develop into an impact starter in the NFL.




    10. New Orleans Saints -- Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: CB, MLB, DT, OLB, TE
    Previous mock selection: Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
    Cornerback and linebacker are the Saints' biggest areas of need, and Jenkins is the best athlete available at those positions. His combination of size, speed and athleticism is outstanding, and his recognition skills continue to improve each season. Jenkins also brings versatility to the table, since he can play some safety and chip in on returns. If New Orleans uses this pick on a corner, it should find much better value at linebacker early in Round 2.




    11. Buffalo Bills -- Malcolm Kelly*, WR, Oklahoma
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: WR, CB, TE, LB, DT
    Previous mock selection: DeSean Jackson*, WR, California
    Kelly is the type of big receiver the Bills need as a complement to current wideout Lee Evans. Kelly is unusually fluid for a bigger wideout and he might have the strongest hands of any player in the 2008 draft. However, Jackson could join forces with RB Marshawn Lynch to give Buffalo one of the most exciting young offensive skill groups in the NFL.


    12. Denver Broncos -- Ryan Clady*, OT, Boise State
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: OT, DT, S, MLB, G
    Previous mock selection: Same
    Clady still is improving his strength, but he possesses impressive feet to go along with his enormous wingspan and huge frame. He would be an ideal fit in Denver's famed zone-blocking scheme and give a boost to the Broncos' running game.


    13. Carolina Panthers -- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: QB, DE, OT, WR, OLB
    Previous mock selection: Calais Campbell*, DE, Miami
    Instead of drafting a young signal-caller who will need time to develop, look for the Panthers to bring in veteran competition for current QB Matt Moore, who showed some positive signs late in the season. Drafting a defensive end like Campbell to fill a need is a possibility, but don't be surprised if the team looks to fill a hole at offensive tackle, where Travelle Wharton and Jordan Gross are set to become free agents.


    14. Chicago Bears -- Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: QB, LOT, DT, G, RB
    Previous mock selection: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
    The Bears will have a tough decision to make if Brohm still is available at No. 14. There has been a lot of talk about the Bears going in a different direction with this pick, including offensive and defensive tackle. And while that makes a lot of sense, I still wouldn't rule out Brohm just yet. His stock is likely to soar between now and April's draft because he should impress scouts with his overall passing efficiency and football intelligence during the combine and individual workouts.


    15. Detroit Lions -- Aqib Talib*, CB, Kansas
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: ROT, G, CB, S, DE
    Projected pick: Same
    The Lions will be selecting outside of the top 10 for the first time since 2001, and now the trick is to find quality players this far down the line. The Lions' secondary is undermanned and would welcome the services of Talib, who is a versatile, fluid athlete with excellent size and ball skills. His elite athleticism was on display when returned an interception 100 yards for a touchdown this season, and he also saw some snaps on offense.


    16. Arizona Cardinals -- Rashard Mendenhall*, RB, Illinois
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, OLB, TE, RB, DE
    Previous mock selection: Jonathan Stewart*, RB, Oregon
    The Cardinals have more pressing needs on the other side of the ball -- defensive tackle and cornerback -- but there isn't an available player at those positions who is as valuable as Mendenhall. He has the size, burst and versatility to eventually develop into an every-down starter. In the meantime, Mendenhall and Edgerrin James would make a heck of a 1-2 punch for the next year or two.


    17. Minnesota Vikings -- DeSean Jackson*, WR/RS, California
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: DE, WR, S, QB, TE
    Previous mock selection: Derrick Harvey*, DE, Florida
    Believe it or not, Minnesota still is in the market for help at wide receiver and defensive end, despite investing first- or second-round picks in the past four drafts on WRs Troy Williamson (2005) and Sidney Rice (2007), and DEs Kenechi Udeze (2004) and Erasmus James (2005). Jackson still has room to improve as a route runner, and he must get stronger in order to endure a grueling 16-game NFL schedule, but his home run ability after the catch, on vertical routes and on punt returns will be tempting for teams drafting in the top 20 overall.


    18. Houston Texans -- Jonathan Stewart*, RB, Oregon
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, RB, WR, S, LOT, G
    Previous mock selection: Kenny Phillips*, S, Miami
    The Texans need a featured back to go along with QB Matt Schaub and WR Andre Johnson, and Stewart has the bulk, burst and versatility to quickly fill that role. He also could offer a boost in the kickoff return game.
     
  2. RMANCIL

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    19. Philadelphia Eagles -- Calais Campbell*, DE, Miami
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: WR, TE, DE, OT/G, S, LB
    Previous mock selection: Malcolm Kelly*, WR, Oklahoma
    Philadelphia OTs Jon Runyan and William Thomas aren't getting any younger, so Pittsburgh OT Jeff Otah is a possibility here. The Eagles also are in search of a home run threat at wide receiver, so don't count out Michigan's Mario Manningham. However, there aren't that many 6-foot-8, 280-pound defensive ends with Campbell's athleticism coming out of the college ranks these days, so don't be surprised if the Eagles take a flyer on this unpolished but supremely talented end.


    20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Mario Manningham*, WR, Michigan
    Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, OT, OLB, CB, QB
    Previous mock selection: Sam Baker, OT, USC
    Coach John Gruden will be pressing general manager Bruce Allen for a young playmaker at wide receiver, and Allen knows Manningham is capable of special things in the NFL. If Manningham gets with a coach like Gruden at the next level, he could emerge as the most productive wideout from a very talented 2008 class.




    21. Washington Redskins -- Phillip Merling*, DE, Clemson
    Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, DE, S, OT, CB
    Previous mock selection: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
    Sweed is a possibility here since wide receiver is on the short list of big needs for the Redskins, but Merling is a fast-rising junior prospect who is shooting up the draft boards of many NFL teams. The more we study film of him, the more we like his combination of size (6-4, 275), power and agility, and his ability to get into opposing backfields. Merling has the tools to become an impact starter in the next couple of seasons and would fill an area of need for Washington.


    22. Dallas Cowboys (from 10-6 Cleveland) -- Sam Baker, OT, USC
    Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, WR, OT, RB, ILB
    Previous mock selection: Mario Manningham*, WR, Michigan
    Assuming owner Jerry Jones doesn't package picks to trade up, expect Dallas to use its two picks to address needs at corner, receiver, offensive tackle and possibly running back. Baker's stock is dropping after an injury-plagued senior season and a mediocre showing at the Senior Bowl, but he possesses the athleticism and technique to surprise a lot of people at the next level.


    23. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
    Record: 10-6 | Needs: OT, C, DE (3-4), G, RB
    Previous mock selection: Same
    The Steelers could use two of their first three picks on offensive linemen. They have bigger holes to fill inside, but Otah is far and away the best lineman available in this scenario. Interior help is available for a good value in later rounds (Oregon State G Roy Schuening, and centers Mike Pollak of Arizona State and John Sullivan of Notre Dame).


    24. Tennessee Titans -- Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
    Record: 10-6 | Needs: WR, CB, TE, WR, OL
    Previous mock selection: Early Doucet, WR, LSU
    The Titans need to draft a legitimate weapon for QB Vince Young to target in the passing attack, and who would be better than Young's former college teammate? Sweed could slip a bit due to a wrist injury that cut his senior season short and was re-aggravated at the Senior Bowl. However, when Sweed is healthy, he is arguably the most physically gifted receiver in this year's class. The 6-4, 217-pounder is worth the risk, in my opinion.


    25. Seattle Seahawks -- Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
    Record: 10-6 | Needs: ROT, DT, RB, TE, G
    Previous mock selection: Rashard Mendenhall*, RB, Illinois
    It is unlikely current Seattle starting RB Shaun Alexander will ever return to his 2005 MVP form, and backup Maurice Morris has proved to be at his best when limited to a complementary role. However, with McFadden, Stewart and Mendenhall all off the board, look for the Seahawks to go in a different direction here. Balmer is a fast-rising prospect with very good size, power and quickness. He would be a welcome addition to Seattle's thin interior defensive line.


    26. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Early Doucet, WR, LSU
    Record: 11-5 | Needs: WR, DE, SS, CB
    Previous mock selection: Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn
    The Jaguars should use this pick on the best available receiver or pass-rusher. Groves will be a possibility if he checks out physically at the combine. Doucet is another solid choice this late in the first round, however. While he is unlikely to emerge as anything more than a No. 2 receiver in the NFL, Doucet possesses the quickness and run-after-catch ability to complement Jacksonville's group of bigger receivers.


    27. San Diego Chargers -- Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
    Record: 11-5 | Needs: RG/ROT, NT, FB, RB
    Previous mock selection: Dan Connor, MLB, Penn State
    The Chargers can select the best available athlete if they want, but the right side of their offensive line could use an upgrade, and Cherilus projects as a solid starting right tackle in the NFL. Cherilus' stock is on the rise following his impressive showing at the Senior Bowl.


    28. Dallas Cowboys -- Felix Jones*, RB, Arkansas
    Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, WR, OT, ILB, RB
    Previous mock selection: Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
    If owner Jerry Jones can't strike a deal for McFadden, he could settle for Arkansas' other first-round running back prospect. Felix Jones is a speedster who could complement current Dallas RB Marion Barber well and provide a home run threat in the return game.


    29. S.F. 49ers (from 13-3 Indianapolis) -- James Hardy*, WR, Indiana
    Record: 5-11 | Needs: WR, OT, OLB, DE, QB
    Previous mock selection: Same
    San Francisco needs a playmaker at wide receiver to take the attention away from TE Vernon Davis and pressure off QB Alex Smith. Hardy comes with some baggage and he needs some polishing, but no receiver in this class possesses a more imposing combination of size and natural athleticism.


    30. Green Bay Packers -- Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tenn. St.
    Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, OT, S, TE, PT
    Previous mock selection: Fred Davis, TE, USC
    Packers QB Brett Favre certainly would welcome the addition of a tight end like Davis, who can stretch the seam and generate yards after the catch. However, the team has a more pressing need in the defensive secondary, and Rodgers-Cromartie is one of the fastest-rising prospects in the 2008 class right now. The small-school product proved capable of playing with the big boys at the Senior Bowl, where he demonstrated outstanding versatility and athleticism playing both free safety and cornerback throughout the week.


    31. N.E. Patriots -- Pick forfeited
    Record: 16-0 | Needs: ILB, CB, OLB, OL depth
    Previous mock selection: Same
    The Patriots lost this pick as part of the penalty handed down for illegally taping Jets coaches from the sideline in Week 1.


    32. New York Giants -- Keith Rivers, OLB, USC
    Record: 10-6 | Needs: OLB, CB, S, OT, DT
    Previous mock selection: Same
    The Giants are in need of an immediate and legitimate upgrade at linebacker, and Rivers is instinctive and athletic enough to contribute immediately on the weak side. They also could use a quick, explosive back who would complement current Giants power back Brandon Jacobs, so keep an eye on this selection.
     
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    I'm still hoping for either a NT, or RG in the first round. I think that Clary will develop into a really solid starter. He needs to add some bulk in the running game, but his pass blocking was pretty good for having to step in during the middle of the season. However, Goff struggled in pass blocking and run blocking all year, and seems to be slowing down some, not to mention that his contract runs out soon(08?). On the defensive side, I don't think that very many people are feeling really comfortable if Jamal goes down again. We could use more quality depth at both NT and DE, but NT is the bigger concern. I like Mckinney, but one guy who might or might not be the answer isn't good enough. i saw Bingham in at NT one too many times last year. I think that this year provides an ample opportunitey to bolster either one of the lines with a great prospect, and we need to take advantage of it before it bites us in the *** next year.
     
  4. AnteaterCharger

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    So much of what the Chargers will do is going to be determined simply by who's avaliable. And you've got a draft pick where you could use draft a guy who's a high/mid second rounder with that pick.

    I maintain that I think RT can be addressed in FA effectively whereas something like a nose tackle can only be found in the draft. And I think we could, godforbid, handle one more year of Clary and Goff but I can't promise what we can do if we have another year where Jamal has an off year or godforbid goes down injured. I've made my opinion about drafting a guard so I'm not going to restate it. Still there's a damn good chance that players like Pat Sims, Gosider Cherilus, Carl Nicks, Branden AlBert, Dominique Cromartie, etc will all be there at 27.
     
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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/18/combine.players/index.html?eref=T1

    Those who have the most to gain

    . Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose State: Lowery quickly became one of the nation's most opportunistic cornerbacks, intercepting 13 passes after transferring to San Jose State in '06. Scouts are concerned he does not have the speed necessary to be a starter in the NFL, but fast workout times could quell that criticism.

    I picked this guy in preseason as a Bolts draft pick... his speed is the only question mark, as he certainly knows how to play corner...

    http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=42421&highlight=dwight lowery

    will he last until our Comp pick... I wonder if he could convert to safety...

    ...

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...olumns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3252856

    <Combine:> Five under the most pressure to perform

    4. Kenny Phillips, S, Miami
    The top safety spot in the 2008 class is up for grabs. Phillips is arguably the best all-around athlete at the position, but he's coming off a disappointing junior season. Because underclassmen can't play in all-star games, this is Phillips' first pre-draft opportunity to showcase his skills for NFL decision-makers. Phillips needs to cash in during his four-day trip to Indy.

    Five with the most to gain

    3. Pat Sims, DT, Auburn - :tup:
    Sims is unpolished and could have used another season at Auburn to develop. Regardless, scouts and coaches will be looking to see how much raw ability and competitiveness this 6-4, 310-pound junior possesses. From what I can tell on film, Sims should rank among the top DTs in the agility drills, 40-yard dash and bench press. Sims had some issues off the field, though, so the interview process will afford a chance for him to prove he has matured. If all goes as planned, Sims can lock down the No. 4 DT spot in this year's class, which would all but guarantee a spot in the first two rounds.
     
  6. RMANCIL

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    Draft an inexact science ?

    One more opinion

    Salisbury

    Inside the combine

    Todd McShay

    Jonathan Stewart

    New Bio

    Branden Albert (OG)

    Gosder Cherilus OT

    Ryan Clady (OT)

    Heath Benedict (OT)

    Robert Felton (OG)

    Carl Nicks (OT)

    Jeff Otah (OT)

    Chilo Rachal (OG)

    Chris Williams (OT)

    Eric Young (OT)

    DL

    Kentwan Balmer (DE)

    Red Bryant (DT)

    Calais Campbell (DE)

    Marcus Harrison (DT) So much for him being a Bolt.

    Trevor Laws (DT)

    Ahtyba Rubin (DT)

    Frank Okam (DT)

    I still think he looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane.

    CB/DB

    Antoine Cason (CB)

    Brandon Flowers (CB)

    Leodis McKelvin (CB)

    Tracy Porter (CB)

    Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

    Reggie Smith (DB)

    Aqib Talib (CB) One of the most intriguing DB in this draft class, is he a CB or a safety? Top 15 pick or will he slide with a low 40 yd dash.

    Kenny Phillips (FS)

    Jamie Silva (FS) His speed and size will make him a low round selection his game day smash and take no prisoners play will land him a roster spot. Could he be the next Rodney Harrison?

    Draft class is deep at cornerback, shallow at safety
    By Todd McShay

    Similar to a year ago, the 2008 crop of cornerbacks is deep and talented, but void of a blue-chipper who without a doubt belongs in the top 10. The only difference is that this year's top prospects hail from schools like Troy, South Florida and Tennessee State, not Pittsburgh, Michigan and Texas.


    There could be as many as 10 cornerbacks -- Mike Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin, Aqib Talib, Brandon Flowers, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Reggie Smith, Tracy Porter, Patrick Lee, Antoine Cason and Chevis Jackson -- who come off the board between the middle of the first round and the end of the second round.

    Jenkins, McKelvin and Talib are competing for the honor of being the first corner selected. Jenkins has the best combination of size and speed, McKelvin is the most sudden athlete, and Talib is the biggest and most versatile of the three. All three have experience in the return game and McKelvin has the greatest upside in that department, but Talib is the only one with significant experience on both sides of the ball, having caught eight passes at wide receiver in 2007.

    Flowers lacks elite size and speed, but he is the most polished cover corner in the class right now, which is why it won't shock me if he sneaks into the bottom of Round 1. Porter also possesses first-round cover skills, but his finesse approach is a turnoff to many NFL scouts. Conversely, Lee has the size, speed and toughness teams look for in a future starter, but he is still a bit raw due to inexperience.

    Rodgers-Cromartie and Smith have versatility due to their experience at both cornerback and safety in college. Cason and Jackson also are bigger corners but are not blessed with the same man-to-man cover skills as Rodgers-Cromartie and Smith, which is why Cason and Jackson will be best suited to play in a Cover 2-heavy scheme in the NFL.

    The depth of this class is certain to spill over to the second day. Charles Godfrey, Justin King and Orlando Scandrick all need polishing, but could be worth the risk thanks to outstanding size-speed combinations. Jack Williams, Trae Williams, Terrence Wheatley and Justin Tryon are all undersized but show the quickness and speed to contribute as sub-package corners in the slot. On the flip side, Terrell Thomas, Dejuan Tribble and Dwight Lowery lack ideal turn-and-run skills, but are instinctive enough to see the field if protected in zone-heavy schemes at the next level.

    Finally, Zack Bowman and Jack Ikegwuonu were at one time considered upper-echelon talents, but knee injuries have set both prospects back considerably. Bowman was not the same when he finally got back on the field as a senior while Ikegwuonu sustained a serious injury during workouts in January and will miss at least the entire 2008 season. Both players will look to reward the teams that take a chance on them in the later rounds.


    Unfortunately, for the many teams in need of safety help, this year's draft supply will not meet the demand. The past three drafts have seen an average of 5.3 safeties selected in the first two rounds, but this year's crop will provide two at the most.


    Kenny Phillips and DeJuan Morgan both could have benefited from another year in school, but you can hardly blame them for bolting early to exploit the situation. Phillips is the more naturally gifted of the two, but he's coming off a disappointing junior season in which he made several mental mistakes. Morgan has less range in coverage, but he's a bigger hitter with better leadership skills and special teams production, and in all reality neither is an elite prospect.

    There's a drop-off in talent after Phillips and Morgan, but some good values will be there on Day 2. Thomas DeCoud, Marcus Griffin, Tyrell Johnson, DJ Wolfe, Simeon Castille, Jonathan Hefney, DJ Parker and Quintin Demps make up a group of smaller free safety types with some versatility in coverage but limitations in run support.

    There is also a handful of Day 2 strong safety types who lack ideal range in coverage but are capable of covering kicks and contributing in certain jumbo packages. They include Tom Zbikowski, Jamie Silva, Craig Steltz, Jamar Adams and Joshua Barrett.
     
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    My mock before the combine and the big F.A. signing period which will impact the draft . Please by all means share your disbelieve or support.

    1. Miami Dolphins

    Chris Long, DE, Virginia Fits the 3-4 or a 4-3 so the Fish are covered , I don't think that they take the QB as I am not sold on him.


    2. St. Louis Rams

    Glen Dorsey is a stud ,the Rams should take him over OT Long who won't be a great LOT where Dorsy could be a ALL - Pro


    3. Atlanta Falcons

    Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas is the best player in the draft the Falcons should take a QB early in the second round.

    4. Oakland Raiders

    Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC great player who helps make the defense a very strong unit he could be the steal of the draft.



    5. Kansas City Chiefs

    Jake Long, T, Michigan: The run game and the pass game demand a OL and he is the best in this class.

    6. New york Jets

    Vernon Gholston, OLB, Ohio State: Gholston is a defensive end in the 4-3 defense, but he would fit the Jets' 3-4 as an OLB

    7. New England Patriots (from San Francisco)

    Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy State: Asante Samuel leaving and Gay a free agent, they must find a replacement. Great Senior Bowl.


    8. Baltimore Ravens

    Ryan Clady, T, Boise State: They need to get a replacement at LOT he should step right end to block for new QB Donavan McNab.


    9. Cincinnati Bengals

    Dan Connor, ILB, Penn State Bengals reach for LB kid can play


    10. New Orleans Saints

    Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida fits a huge need for the Saints who must stop the pass.


    11. Buffalo

    Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma: He is a big, physical receiver who can run. Buffalo needs another weapon to go with Lee Evans.

    12. Denver Broncos

    Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina fits the clear need of a solid run stopper in the dl. They will never beat S.D. again if they don't stop the run with out sending 8 , 9 in the box.


    13. Carolina Panthers

    Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon I think Foster is on the block and Fox wants a power RB who will hold onto the ball.



    14. Chicago Bears

    Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College bears want a QB so bad and they think Ryan could be the guy.


    15. Detroit Lions

    Chris Williams, T, Vanderbilt hey what a idea build the OL and watch the offense go.

    16. Arizona Cardinals

    Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
    Edgerrin James is done

    17. Minnesoata Vikings

    Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida: With the uncertainty about Kenechi Udeze and his illness, they need to find another pass rusher. Harvey has tons of pass-rush ability.

    18. Houston Texans
    Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas speed demon RB who will look great with that spread offense.


    19. Philadelphia Eagles
    DeSean Jackson, WR, California provides a big time playmaker at the wr position and a return man


    20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Pat Sims, DT, Auburn provides a base for the defense


    21. Washington Redskins

    Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan: He had a off year but this kid still is one of the best and fits well here


    22. Dallas Cowboys (from Cleveland)

    Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas: This might be high for him, but the Saints are desperate for corner help. Talib has great athletic ability. He also plays with a swagger


    23. Pittsburgh Steelers

    Jeff Otah, OT/ OG, Pittsburgh fits right in perhaps the best run drive blocker in the draft.


    24. Tennessee Titans

    Calais Campbell, DE, Miami: They will likely lose ends Antwan Odom and Travis Laboy to free agency. Campbell can be an immediate replacement. A receiver is also possible.

    25. Seattle Seahawks

    Fred Davis, TE, USC: They need to get a weapon in the middle of the field

    26. Jacksonville Jaguars

    Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson: They badly need pass-rush help and Merling has speed and good size at 6-4, 270 pounds.


    27. San Diego Chargers
    Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State Chargers love great athletes and he fits the bill he could be great in two years and figures to play the role of the nickle CB in his 1st season.


    28. Dallas Cowboys

    Quentin Groves, DE/OLB, Auburn fits the 3-4 big time with huge speed I expect we will here much more about him during the combine.


    29. San Francisco 49ers (from Indianapolis)

    Early Doucet, WR, LSU: They must get somebody who can be a threat down the field. Doucet has what it takes to get deep.

    30. Green Bay Packers

    Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana super fast CB fits the Pack


    31. New England Patriots

    Pick forfeited.

    32. New York Giants

    Keith Rivers, LB, USC big LB who should see some action with the Giants
    There it is folks lets here it.
     
  8. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    For the hell of it

    1 Dolphins Matt Ryan QB BC
    2 Rams Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
    3 *Falcons Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
    4 *Raiders Sedrick Ellis DT USC
    5 *Chiefs Jake Long OT michigan
    6 Jets Chris Long DE Virginia
    7 Patriots Vernon Gholston, OLB OSU
    8 Ravens Ryan Cadry OT Boise State
    9 Bengals Keith Rivers LB USC
    10 Saints Dan Connor LB Penn State
    11 Bills Mike Jenkins CB USF
    12 Broncos Jeff Otah OT pitt
    13 Panthers Chris Williams OT Vandy
    14 Bears Kentwan Balmer DT NC
    15 Lions Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
    16 Cardinals Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois
    17 Vikings Malcolm Kelly WR oklahoma
    18 Texans Jonathan Stewart RB oregon
    19 Eagles Kenny Phillips S miami
    20 Buccaneers Deshawn Jackson WR Cal
    21 Redskins Calasis Campbell DE Miami
    22 Cowboys Aquid Talib CB Kansas
    23 Steelers Branden Alpert OG
    24 Titans Mario Manningham WR Michigan
    25 Seahawks Fred Davis TE USC
    26 Jaguars Philip merling DE Clemson
    27 Chargers Pat Sims DT Auburn
    28 Cowboys Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma
    29 49ers Early doucet WR LSU
    30 Packers Dominique Rodgers Cromartie DB Jackson State
    31 Giants Ali Highsmith, LSU
     
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    Yeah, injuries never heal :icon_shrug: :confused:

    He isnt the first to not have as good a year as the year before but it still wasnt a bad year by no means.


    Adrian Peterson never came close to what he did as a freshman.

    Bush hasnt done really much so far...especially as a RB rushing the ball and he had a great junior year in college so im not concerned about Slaton( that is the correct spelling, there is no Y)


    He will still run in the 4.35-4.4 range so i dont see the problem. He may fall, but if i needed a RB id still take him in the first if im sitting there near the end of that round.


    BTW..............Ray Perkins was with he Dolphins last year.
     
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    it's ALL about the numbers... how to slot a player... test results...

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/i...ll&id=1203363538&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

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    case in point, watch Charles Godfrey, CB/S, Iowa this combine... IMO, when he runs a 4.38, he'll likely move close to, if not into, the first rd... and if he runs faster the .38, he'll supplant Smith as my like-to-have convertible... he's a guy that has the quickness/speed to cover the slot and the coverage skills if he plays centerfield...
     
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    Sure injuires heal but just what effect did it have on his speed?

    Is he well now ? How fast is he now? If he was hurt during the season and now he is well and he can run like he once could then sure he could be a real good RB and a great value.

    There is so much we never know....



    Ray Perkins?????
     
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    Somebody said Perkins was still a player for us to watch because he played well for us...thought it was you. Maybe it was another forum :icon_tease:
     
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    http://sea.scout.com/2/730417.html

    Eight to watch at the combine

    QB Josh Johnson, San Diego

    Johnson's Offensive MVP performance at the Shrine Game was a continuation of his amazing 2007 season. Johnson threw for almost 3,000 yards in only 10 games, but the real standout stat was his 43-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio. That's 43 touchdowns. In one season. Those who have seen Johnson admire his poise in the pocket -- unlike most young, mobile quarterbacks, he's not automatically prone to balking and bringing he ball down at the first sign of pressure. His work with Jim Harbaugh has been an advantage. The real question is how the NCAA's all-time passing efficiency rating leader will match up against competition stronger than Valparaiso, Morehead State and Cal-Davis. The Shrine Game was a definitive answer, but if Johnson can show the same kinds of mechanics as other quarterbacks of interest at the Combine, he could watch his stock split for the second time.

    What Will Impress: Reads through progressions very well, great long-distance arm, excellent burst and elusiveness as a runner.

    What He Needs to Prove: Versatility in his repertoire, especially short throws. Occasionally iffy form (setting his feet and ball release) during Shrine Game practices will be a red flag here.


    RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon

    Everyone's favorite Seahawks first-round prospect comes into the Combine as quite possibly the most complete back in the nation. As NFLDraftScout.com puts it, Stewart "has the size of a fullback, the strength of an offensive lineman and the quickness of a sprinter." What he also has is the slightly under the radar designation that he shares with most West Coast players. In truth, the only thing that keeps Stewart from being rated as the best player (read: player, not athlete) at his position is a slightly scary injury history. Stewart can play through pain, but he's had to do a lot of that for a junior. His ankle problems go back to 2002. However, the LaDanian Tomlinson/Adrian Peterson comparisons are legitimate. Stewart rushed for 1,722 yards, and amassed 2,481 all-purpose yards, in 2007.

    What Will Impress: Will most likely show great timed speed, especially for his size (5-11, 235 pounds).

    What He Needs to Prove: The medical tests will be the big obstacle, as will overcoming perceptions if he has to skip any drills. Clearing those hurdles could shoot him a long way up the boards.


    RB Matt Forte, Tulane

    One of the most impressive prospects at the Senior Bowl in Mobile last month, Forte is one of the players, along with USC DT Sedrick Ellis, who made a lot of money that week. He’s got the size to be an every-down back in the NFL while also possessing the athleticism to be explosive when he gets into the open field. Forte runs hard inside and, more importantly he finishes his runs, powering through arm tackles and making defenders pay when they come in for contact. Playing for a team like Tulane, a player can get lost in the shuffle, but Forte is likely to be the top senior back taken in the draft this year after totaling 2,127 yards and 23 touchdowns as a senior in 2007

    What Will Impress: Unfortunately, what Forte does best (gaining tough yardage inside the tackles) won’t be on display while he's in Indy. However, he can show off his soft hands and put his excellent athleticism on display.

    What He Needs to Prove: That his speed is good enough past the first level of NFL defenses. If Forte can run in the 4.5 range, he’s probably going to be a second-rounder.


    WR Jordy Nelson, Kansas State

    A big, tall target (6-3, 215) with impressive speed, Nelson set school records for catches and receiving yards in 2007 with 122 and 1,606. He's fast in traffic with good hands. The Kansas State offense is known as a passing offense, but Nelson's not just a "system player". He impressed at the Shrine Game, and though he's currently projected as an early second-day pick, certain Combine numbers could change that.

    What Will Impress: Acceleration, ability to catch the ball, short-area quickness.

    What He Needs to Prove: "Better in pads than in shorts" is all well and good, but not necessarily in this case. If Nelson can bring his athleticism to the RCA Dome in the sheer speed tests, he'll become a lot more intriguing to a lot more people. Breaking the possession receiver stereotype by showing deep speed is the first step.


    OG Branden Albert, Virginia

    The Virginia underclassman picked the right year to declare -- he immediately became the top prospect in a weak guard class. The 6-7, 315-pound Albert possesses a compelling mix of athleticism and sheer size. His quickness and pulling ability have some experts wondering if he might not wind up switching to tackle at the next level. He received head coach Al Groh's blessing to forego his senior season. A team co-captain as a junior. Albert shouldn't have any trouble with those personnel execs that place character in a high position when evaluating prospects.

    What Will Impress: Unusual speed and quickness; great ability to pull and block at the second level. Could be a dominant guard in a zone blocking scheme, but the future is wide open from a positional standpoint. You might see him anywhere but center in the NFL.

    What He Needs to Prove: The drills will be interesting for Albert. If he can show power and drive-blocking ability to go with that speed, the rush to this player's bandwagon could become claustrophobic. Already a Mike Mayock favorite.


    OT Sam Baker, USC

    Heading into the 2007 season, Baker, along with Michigan’s Jake Long, was thought to be one of the top tackle prospects in the country. However, the football gods didn’t shine down on the Trojans’ top returning lineman as he struggled with injuries all season while looking average at times versus some of the better defensive ends in the country. Baker’s size and his ability to be solid as both a run and pass-blocker make him an intriguing prospects even with his limited athletic ability. When you come from a school like USC, you come out with the rep of being one of the best players at your position, and Baker has worked hard to live up to that moniker.

    What Will Impress: His size (6-5.5, 310) and his long wingspan are prototypical for an NFL right tackle.

    What He Needs to Prove: That the injury bug was a fluke this past season and that he has the necessary footwork and athleticism to slide out on the speed rushers he’ll face every week in the NFL.


    CB Aqib Talib, Kansas

    When you talk about the most impressive athletes in the draft this year, Talib’s name is at or near the top of the list. He’s an intense football player and he’s very tough, both mentally and physically. Talib definitely has the necessary balance of confidence and ability to be an outstanding cover-corner in the NFL. He’s also an outstanding return man who can take it the distance anytime he gets his hands on the ball. Talib is a player who will give his all on every play and will never back down from a challenge. NFL teams struggle to find players like that every year.

    What Will Impress: Talib’s size (6-2, 200) and athleticism are rare for a cornerback and NFL teams will drool over his abilities.

    What He Needs to Prove: That he has the speed to catch up when he makes a mistake in coverage. If he can run a sub-4.5 in the forty, he’ll be assured a top 15 selection in April.


    S Jamie Silva, Boston College *** man, I like this kid... another Weddle... come on AJ, get another gamer...

    An underrated, ruthless, and intelligent defender and special teams player. Silva's is a name you should know. In his senior season, Silva led his team in tackles (115) and interceptions (six). In addition, he allowed the fewest yards-per-reception average (2.26) in Division I football. His dominant Shrine Game performance -- he recovered a Dwight Lowery fumble on special teams and pretty much single-handedly stopped the West's first offensive drive in the second half -- let the nation in on the secret to a point.

    What Will Impress: Instincts, aggressiveness, intelligence. The question is whether Silva's talents, both tangible and intangible, will show up in the tests.

    What He Needs to Prove: That he has enough speed, recovery ability and hip turn to impress the scouts who didn't see enough of his game tape to know what they'd be getting. Most likely, someone's going to get a second-day steal that can start and make a difference on special teams right away and work his way into becoming a leader in an NFL secondary.
     
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    We've got some big interior lineman this year.
     
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    Here is a link to the charger blog live from Indy.

    Source says Lewis agrees to deal with Browns

    Henry, Broncos work out deal that will allow RB to return

    Raiders slap exclusive franchise tag on CB Asomugha

    Seahawks put franchise tag on Pro Bowl CB Trufant

    Mike Mayock's top 20

    Combine fed

    The 2008 Scouting Combine is the annual job fair for prospective new NFL players. For six days from the RCA Dome in Indianapolis, players are put through a series of drills, tests and interviews with more than 600 NFL personnel including head coaches, general managers and scouts

    Live Workouts: Hosted by Rich Eisen with NFL Network analysts Charles Davis, Mike Mayock and Rod Woodson providing daily reports on the prospects participating in the workouts. Airs live Saturday, Feb. 23 through Tuesday, Feb. 26 beginning at 11 a.m. ET each day.

    NFL Total Access: NFL Total Access is on location from the Scouting Combine with news, analysis and interviews featuring host Fran Charles alongside analysts Steve Mariucci, Jamie Dukes, and reporter Adam Schefter. Airs live Thursday, Feb. 21 through Monday, Feb. 25 at 7:00 p.m. ET.

    Press Conferences: Player, coach and general manager press conferences anchored by Paul Burmeister and Adam Schefter. Airs live Thursday, Feb. 21, and Friday, Feb. 22, at 2:30 p.m. ET as well as Saturday and Sunday at 2:00 p.m. ET.

    McShay Archive: Chats | Columns

    Todd McShay: What's good, SN? I'm in Indy, where the combine is kicking off today. What's on your mind?




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    Paul (Denver): Flacco, Woodson, or Henne to the Bears? And why?

    Todd McShay: A good battle is brewing between these three QBs in Round 2. The more film I study of Woodson the more concerned I become regarding his slower delivery. He's much better than people saw at the Senior Bowl but would put Woodson behind Henne and Flacco -- in that order.


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    tc (toronto): Hi Todd, who do you see (if anyone) dropping out of the top 5? and who do you see moving up?

    Todd McShay: I think McFadden is in danger, but it has nothing to do with anything McFadden has done or not done. I still have McFadden ranked No. 1 overall but there isn't much separating him from the other five "elite" prospects in this year's class -- QB Ryan, OT Long, DE Long, and DT's Dorsey and Ellis. If you look at the team needs of the five teams drafting at the top you'll understand why McFadden could slip to the Jets at No. 6

    Todd McShay: Just so I'm clear, McFadden is still -- without question -- the best RB in the '08 class. I've received a lot of emails recently with people asking if I'm wavering on McFadden... I'm not.


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    Nick (Boston): Todd - any chance Matt Ryan slips out of the top three with a poor performance? Or is he definitely not going to slip past Atlanta, no matter what.

    Todd McShay: Well, it depends on the coin flip. But if Ryan is on the board when the Falcons pick I think they would be crazy not to draft him.


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    Ahmed (Queens, NY): Hey Todd, how would you rank your top 5 safeties in this draft? do you think Kenny Phillips would be there for the giants at 32?

    Todd McShay: Phillips could be available. He has very good natural physical tools but I'm not sold on him in terms of his recognition skills and all around game right now. To be honest, this is an extremely weak safety crop -- probably the weakest position in this year's draft. Here's my top-five: Phillips, NC State's Dejuan Morgan, Cal's Thomas DeCoud, Texas' Marcus Griffin and Ark. State's Tyrell Johnson. Phillips and Morgan are the only two I think will come off the board in the first two rounds.


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    Dante (CT): Todd, what do you think the Dolphins will do with the #1 pick? Who do you think they will select? How could they pass on Ryan?

    Todd McShay: I think it comes down to the following three players: QB Ryan, DE Long and OT Long -- assuming, of course, there's no trade. They need to decide on Beck first. If they think he can be a franchise QB moving forward, then it's one of the two Longs in my opinion.

    Todd McShay: The only reason I wouldn't include Dorsey/Ellis in that mix is because neither is an ideal fit in a 3-4, which I suspect they will use as their base defense. And you don't want to spend No. 1 overall money on a DL that will spend most his time occupying blockers.

    Todd McShay: FYI... Michigan OT Jake Long is the buzz in Indy right now. None of the groups has worked out yet, but Long measured in at 6-foot-7, 317 pounds with 11" hands and -- most importantly -- 35 3/4" arms... that's huge because it shows he has the reach to play LOT in the NFL.


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    Jake (charlotte, nc): Do you think the Raven's will use their first round pick on a CB or QB?

    Todd McShay: If they stay at No. 8 I don't see them drafting a QB. Ryan will be gone and it's too early for Brohm (or any other QB for that matter). In all reality, I think the Ravens are in a tough spot at No. 8. They have to hope one of those six elite prospects (I listed earlier) falls to them, but that's an unlikely scenario at this point. CB is the biggest need otherwise. Problem is no CB in this class jumps out as top-10 worthy in my opinion. There are a lot of good ones (like Troy's McKelvin, Kansas' Talib and S. Fla's Jenkins), but I would try like hell to trade out before I used the eighth overall pick on one of those guys.

    Todd McShay: From a big picture standpoint, all the teams drafting in that 7-15 range are in a similar situation. Some things can change between now and April, but I think after the top six prospects there's a dip in talent. The good news for teams drafting in the bottom half of the first round is that they'll get a similar value for less money than the teams drafting in that 7-15 range.


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    Brent (Indianapolis, IN): Do you anticipate any of the top 10 receivers stock dropping with a slow 40 or cone drill time?

    Todd McShay: I think Early Doucet could fall victim. But in reality, I don't see much deep speed when I watch him on film. I think the perception is not quite the reality when it comes to Doucet's vertical potential. I'm interested to see if that plays out in the drills this weekend.


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    Dan, Vancouver BC: Brandon Albert seems to be climbing rapidly. How does he compare to the other elite OL?

    Todd McShay: I think Albert is clearly the best OG in the class. Others seem to like USC's Chilo more, but Albert is bigger and more physical with very similar type feet. Albert still needs some work but I was surprised by his level of toughness when I studied him more closely on film last month (after Jan 15 declaration date). He's not your typical UVA finesse type lineman.

    Todd McShay: I think Albert would be a good fit for a team like the Steelers, who need OL help, later in the first round.


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    JD (buffalo,NY): What do you think the Bills will do in the 1st rd? WR or NT or?

    Todd McShay: I think they need a bigger WR. While they'd ideally like to trade back and still get a good value later in the first (while adding a pick or two), you can't assume they'll find a quality deal to move back. With that in mind, I think they can stay at No. 11 and draft the top WR on their board. Oklahoma's Malcolm Kelly and Texas' Limas Sweed (if his wrist checks out) are the best 2 "Big WR's".


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    Sean (NY): What are the chances McFadden drops to the Jets? If he does do you think it's a sure thing they draft him? Or do you think they'll draft Gholston?


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    Rob (New Brunswick, NJ): Hi Todd, if McFadden falls into the Jets' lap, where do they go in round 2?

    Todd McShay: Jets fans are chiming in... I love it. I don't think it's a lock they take McFadden at No. 6 if available, but I'll say this... I would take him in a heartbeat. It would be very similar to the Vikings' situation with Peterson at No. 7 a year ago -- and that's turning out pretty well, right?

    Todd McShay: If it's McFadden in Round 1, the Jets would probably target a WR like James Hardy, an edge rusher like Quentin Groves, or a DT like Pat Sims in Round 2.

    Todd McShay: Great stuff today, SN. Thanks for all the questions. I'm headed back over to the RCA Dome. We will break the whole thing down a week from now. Until then, be well...
     
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    You know that none of us have as much information as the teams with the scouts in the field . I watched the Senior Bowl game last night and he and Trevor Laws stood out. Bryant has the size and plays the run pretty well. Laws is a DE in the 3-4 but that guy has a motor and he has a great 1st step.


    Combine pot pourri…. For the record, Atlanta called tails to win Friday’s coin flip with Oakland to get the third pick at the 2008 draft; had the Falcons called heads, Oakland would have won the third pick, while Atlanta would have had to have a second flip with Kansas City for the 4th and 5th picks. As it is, Oakland will now pick fourth with the Chiefs scheduled to select 5th… While there still does not appear to be a consensus #1 pick in the 2008 draft class, there is a growing sense that Miami will take Virginia DE Chris Long with the top pick if the Dolphins keep the top pick… While there has been a lot of focus on the top 5 picks this coming April, what with the coin flip and all, however, there is also something of a interesting situation at the 6th and 7th picks. The Jets have the 6th selection, while the Patriots will have the 7th selection with a pick acquired from San Francisco last April. And no teams - or at least their current managements - dislike each other more than the Jets and Patriots. Would the Jets picking 6th, for example, take a player they think that the Patriots really want for themselves. Just a thought!… When the defensive linemen take the field on Monday, LSU Glenn Dorsey, one of the top 6 prospects this year at any position, may take a pass. Dorsey, who was banged up late in the season, has said he might not work out in Indianapolis, but instead will hold a private workout in a few weeks. Arkansas RB Darren McFadden, though, is reportedly leaning toward running on Sunday morning but won't make a final decison until then… Add the offensive linemen, and especially the OTs, to the list of positions that appears to be very strong at this year’s draft. Kevin Colbert, the director of football operations for the Pittsburgh Steelers. For example, is being quoted as saying ''It's the best group of tackles I've seen in 24 years, collectively. The majority of them can play on the left side or play both sides. It's unusual to have that many guys that big and that athletic and that productive.''
    Bucs, Broncs again talking trade… Tampa Bay is reportedly talking to Denver about a possible deal that would land see WR Javon Walker move to the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers could offer draft picks for Walker, who spent most of last year nursing a knee problem, but the Broncos are believed to be looking for a veteran defensive tackle.


    OL Long is Dolphins' best option with No. 1 pick

    I don't agree with this writer. Based on what I have seen Long will be a decent LOT or a pretty good ROT. His weakness seems to be speed pass rushers and at LOT he will see a ton of those guys. He is a much better run blocker than most LOT so he could be very good on the right side.

    That said is it wise to draft a ROT with the 1st pick in the draft ? I know the fish need a QB but the jury is still out on Beck and I am not sold on Matt Ryan ever being a elite QB.

    There is talk that the Falcons may trade up for him and if that were the case I would think that Parcels would make that trade in a skinny minute. In my mind their is very little if any difference in the talent that should be on the board with the third selection vs the first. There will be a huge difference in the players contract however.

    If the Fish keep the pick DE Chris Long or RB Darren McFadden would make a lot more since to me. The word is that the fish will play a 3-4 defense this year and C. Long would fit at DE , he should be able to muster a decent pass rush from the position as well which is huge in the 3-4 as few DE facing double teams can do that with any constancy.

    The Fish have RB Ronnie Brown coming off injury and he is a decent back who is injury prone. McFadden is a home run hitter who will put up 6 a lot in the N.F.L. and he will do it this year.

    How many teams would love to have Adrian Peterson after the show he put on last season with the Vikings? McFadden has been a much more durable and explosive back in college than Peterson was. One thing I do know is that a great RB is a QB best friend. They also make decent OL pro bowl line men and below avgerage, average to good linemen.


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    Buzzmaster: We're getting Mel right now!

    Mel Kiper: We've got the combine at the horizon. We can talk about the players that need to have a good combine and others that need to put to rest them moving down. The guys that need to keep the momentum going and the guys that want to stop the downward spiral.




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    John (Orlando, FL): Will a sub-par 40 time drop James Hardy into the mid 2nd round?

    Mel Kiper: I think he's a second rounder/late first anyway. His speed is the question. Getting separation from the CB is the question. Can he give the QB a window. That's the big question. It's more about explosiveness and quickness than just speed. He's a big receiver, he's 6-6. He's always been a borderline first anyway. What he's trying to do is maintain that second round grade.


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    Gray (Chicago): I am not expecting it to happen, but is Brohm being available to the Bears at 14 their worst nightmare?

    Mel Kiper: I don't think they're going to take a QB in the first round, right around that particular spot. I think you're talking about OT, RB, WR. I think they'll go away from QB. And it's a little early for Brohm. He's not in my top 25 right now. I think they could go for a QB in the second round. How would Brohm look in the second round? Flacco? Henne? They'll all be there in the second round.


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    Kevin (Arlington, VA): Mel, Do you have a late round QB to watch....one that might emerge as a starter down the road?

    Mel Kiper: A couple of guys. You're always looking for those kind of guys. History tells us, not just with Tom Brady, but Matt Hasselback, David Garrard, Marc Bulger. Those are some guys. You're always looking to find those guys. They all went from the third round and on. The guys that would be in that mold this year, I think there's a chance Colt Brennan could be there in the 5th-6th round. Caleb Hanie, Nick Hill, Dennis Dixon is a wild card due to his knee injury. Those are the guys. Even Matt Flynn from LSU. Josh Johnson. They will figure into that late round mix.


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    Vinny(New York): Mel which of the top players might slip ala Brady Quinn this year?

    Mel Kiper: I think of the top guys that could slide a little bit....first of all, the top guys aren't defined yet. Not until the combine. There's always a chance, like Adrian Peterson, that a RB could slip a little bit. Maybe a McFadden could drop a bit. Probably a RB could slip. But right now it's too early to say who all could slip.


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    Mike oakland,Ca: Do you think limus sweed is a better fit in dallas than Super Mario manningham?

    Mel Kiper: I think Manningham would be a real good fit. Sweed is coming off an injury. Sweed hasn't played since Oct. 6. Manningham is the best deep receiver in the draft. What you wish is that he was a bigger on the inside. But he had a lot of catches in his career. If he was a little more consistent, he would be a top 15 pick in the first round.


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    David (Phoenix, Az): The Cardinals need lots of help. With the RB being very good and deep this year, would they be foolish to pass on Stewart, RB Oregon, and take a Lb or a CB?

    Mel Kiper: The RB is going to be interesting, because of the tandem with James. Stewart, Mendenhall, Felix Jones, you could go any one of those directions if you're Arizona. But it wouldn't be ridiculous to take a RB later. This team does have a major need area at CB. If a top CB is there, they could go CB over RB very easily. They also have a need at OLB. The guys who would figure to be there are CB or RB.


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    Dave (Boston): If the Patriots stay at #7 and do not draft a CB, who do you see them selecting?

    Mel Kiper: If they don't take a CB at that point, it's too early for LB, but that's a major need for them. If they don't take a CB, maybe a WR. The only one that would make sense at that point would be Malcom Kelly. Their OL had all sorts of problems in the Super Bowl, but I don't see them going that route. But if there's no one they see, they could trade down.
     
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    Matt Pletcher (Sanford FL): Does Kentwan Balmer slip to pittsburgh at 23?

    Mel Kiper: I would doubt it. I think he's more of a mid-first. I think he could go as high as 10 to New Orleans. He could be a possibility in the middle of the first. I would be surprised if he dropped to 23. I would look more at a guy like Chilo Rachal, an OG.


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    Dan vermont: Who has the most to win and lose in the combine?

    Mel Kiper: The guys that need to have a good combine, just to keep favorable commentary coming their way. Joe Flacco from Delaware. A guy that's underrated, Chris Johnson. He could turn some heads. John Carlson, a TE from Notre Dame. I think it will be very important for the CBs to separate themselves. Talib, McKelvin, Jenkins, Rodgers-Cromartie, Flowers, Jackson. It's critical for Jackson to run a good 40 to show he's more than a Cover-2 CB.


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    Mark (Baltimore): Gholston - Is he a classic "tweener" that the Ravens love, or will his hand always be in the dirt? =

    Mel Kiper: He could be a 4-3 end or a 3-4 OLB. He has the ability to play in a 3-4 or 4-3. He played with his hand off the field some this season. He gave Jake Long his only sack allowed this year. I feel very good about how I graded out the juniors at an early stage. I have him going to the Jets.


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    Mikey(Lackawanna,NY): Mel, Do you think CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie has a good shot at sliding into the 1st round with a good combine performance?

    Mel Kiper: He's one of the ones that could. He could be a first round possibility. I would say more second round, because I go back to Mathis going in the second round a few years ago. I would say late first would be a possibility. Mike Jenkins needs a good combine. There will be a lot of battles for that third CB spot.


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    Dan vermont: Do you see the Giants selecting a DB with the last pick of the 1st round?

    Mel Kiper: As far as needs, LB is at the top for the Giants. I think S/CB is No. 2. It would not surprise me if they looked at that at the end of the first round. They could look at Reggie Smith from Oklahoma. Kenny Phillips, Mike Jenkins, Brandon Flowers. In the first round right now, I have them taking Dan Connor.


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    Johnny Minot, ND: Are the vikes in the market for a defensive end or a wide reciever in the first round?

    Mel Kiper: I'd say first round wise, for them, WR could be the possibility. DE would be No. 2 and S No. 3. WR is the No. 1 priority. If he's there, it would be Malcom Kelly. I don't see a WR where they're picking that would be all that attractive. If they wanted to reach a little bit, it could be DeSean Jackson. If a guy like Calais Campbell is there, they might jump after him.


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    Kyle (Boston): How will the combine affect matt ryan?

    Mel Kiper: If you like Matt Ryan, you already like him. If you're Miami, you know he's your guy. What's a workout going to show you? He has the ability to be the No. 1 pick overall. He's clearly one of the top 3 guys in the draft. If you don't know who you like at QB, you're not going to find him at the combine. You need to find him when bullets are flying - in the games. A workout is not going to make you say that you're going to take this guy. What a combine can do is move somebody up a little bit if he wows you over.

    Mel Kiper: You know about the guys before the combine. No kidding Joe Flacco has a big arm. No kidding Chad Henne has a big arm. If you're watching the games, you know about these guys already.


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    mike(detroit): Can the draft help the lions? It seems to just hinder our cap and degrade lions fans souls

    Mel Kiper: This is a huge draft for the Lions. They were a team that thought they were a playoff team early in the year, but fell off. They need to get two CBs, not just one. They have to get a pass rushing DE. They need an OT. They also need a RB. They're going to run the ball now. You're going to see more of a running game. They also could use a MLB. That's the identity of your defense.

    Mel Kiper: CB, DE, RB, OT and MLB, in that order. If you're looking at CB, you're talking Talib or McKelvin. If you're looking DE, Merling or Campbell. At RB, it's Stewart or Mendenhall. And if it's OT, you could be looking at Ryan Clady, Chris Williams, Jeff Otah. Those are some of the options.


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    Chris (Los Angeles): Do you see any chance of Chris Long falling to the Raiders? Would they take him?

    Mel Kiper: It depends upon where the Raiders are picking. At this combine, there's a coin flip to determine where they pick. Them and Detroit. If they win, they'll pick third. I think there's a chance. It depends on the coin flip and the Rams. If the Rams take Dorsey, then Oakland could be looking at Long or Ellis. Also, Atlanta then could be looking at McFadden. The Raiders resigned Fargas at RB. But the Raiders are gauranteed Dorsey, Long or Ellis.


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    Matt Chicago, IL: Do you think Missouri's Martin Rucker could make the transition to a Marques Colston type offensive threat?

    Mel Kiper: No. He's a TE. I don't see him making any change to another position. He's 6-4, 240 pounds. He's a pass catching TE. You can move him around. They're going to use him in a lot of different ways. They can flex him out to the slot. You can utilize him in different ways and use him as a WR. What's going to be seen about him is how he runs at the combine. He could be as high as the fourth TE drafted or as low as the 7th.


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    Bob (Oakland): Hey Mel, Where do you see Cal's Desean Jackson going, and do the 49ers have a chance at him?

    Mel Kiper: I think they could. They could have a shot at the other Cal WR, Lavelle Hawkins. He's right in there with Jackson. The thing with DeSean is, do you draft him based on '07? If so, he's a 2-3 rounder at best. He didn't have a great year. Back as a sophomore in '06, he was a top 15 pick. Now he's only 167 pounds, but he's a dynamic performer. For me, I'd say late first round, he's a good pick for somebody. There's no question the 49ers would be interested. They need a WR in the first round. A lot of teams need a WR. Washington could take one, Dallas, Tennesse, San Francisco.


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    Barbato (Scranton, PA): What NFL player, past or present, does Mike Hart remind you of?

    Mel Kiper: I think a Joe Morris/Jamie Morris. They both had nice careers in the NFL.

    Mel Kiper: I think he's a second or third rounder.


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    A-Lo (Rochester, NY): Mel, who do the dolphins target with their 2 2nd round picks?

    Mel Kiper: I think when you look at them, I think you probably go front seven on defense and I would probably go CB or WR with the second pick.


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    Ryan (Tampa): Mel, how do you see the oft-maligned former FSU quarterback Xavier Lee doing in the draft? Does his athleticism get him noticed as a project-type player for some team?

    Mel Kiper: It's interesting. He could have gone back to FSU and been a TE. I don't see his future in the NFL as a QB. We've seen a lot of QBs turn into NFL WRs. With his size, I could see Lee becoming a TE. You look at him, you think there has to be an opportunity to be a project. That's why I thought that if he had played at FSU this year and played well at TE, he could have helped himself a bit. If NFL teams are going to look at you as a TE, why not go back and play TE?

    Mel Kiper: He should have welcomed the chance to play another year at FSU and played TE.


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    Jacob Russell (Dayton, OH): What should the Chiefs do with their pick in the draft?

    Mel Kiper: Jake Long would be the guy you have to target if you're KC. OL is their No. 1 need. LT or RT and they need a G. Long would be the ideal fit. Other needs that they have to solidify is they need to get younger at CB. They have to get another WR. Other than Bowe, there's not a lot to speak of at WR. I'd come out of this draft with three OL if I were the Chiefs.


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    Denys (Miami): Hey Mel, is Matt Ryan worthy of being #1 pick for the Dolphins? Is this feasible?

    Mel Kiper: Yeah, he does. His grade to me is equal to what Roethlisberger, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers. So, no question he's worthy.


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    Peter ( Simi, CA ): Who do you see the Bucs targeting in the 1st, deep threat WR or CB?

    Mel Kiper: Tampa Bay, No. 1, they need a WR. Their offense needs to have more diversity and big play ability. Joey Galloway is not getting any younger. Plus he desperately needs a complimentary WR. Plus another RB. They don't know when Williams is coming back. They need a breakaway guy to compliment Earnest Graham. No. 3, they need a young CB. Those are the three areas.


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    Barbato (Scranton, PA): Is there any divison II players that anyone should be looking at?

    Mel Kiper: The non-I-A guys that you'd be looking at: Nick Hill, QB, S. Illinois; Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego; Xavier Omon, RB, NW Missouri St.; Tim Hightower, RB, Richmond; Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina; Bruce Hocker, WR, Duquesne; Mike Peterson, TE, NW Missouri St.; Kolo Kapanui, TE, W. Texas A+M; Demetrius Bell, OT, Northwestern St. (LA); Brian Johnston, DE, Gardner-Webb; Rudy Hardie, DE, Howard; Kroy Biermann, DE, Montana; Korey Lynch, S, Appalachain St.; Rob Zarrilli, PK, Hofstra; Mike Dragosavich, P, N. Dakota St.

    Mel Kiper: And Benjamin Dato, P, Fordham.


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    Jim: Ocean Springs: Mel, the college CB's are rated differently by almost everyone I've read. Without question the Saints need CB help, bad! So, what do you see the Saints doing with their #10 pick?

    Mel Kiper: I think it's going to be a DT or CB. I say DT because if Kentwan Balmer is there, he's going to be hard to pass up. You need someone who can collapse the pocket and create havoc in the interior. If they want to go CB, then Aqib Talib or McKelvin.


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    Josh, Statesboro GA: Hey bro, your the best, do you really think that Falcons will build the O-line and D-line first? Does that draft make sense for them to do that?

    Mel Kiper: I think what they have to do early on is to figure out what they want to do with that first pick. They have some major needs. QB, but Matt Ryan is going to be gone. They have nothing resembling a pro bowl caliber player on the OL. LT is a possibility. If they wanted to look at Jake Long, he could be there. They could look at RB like Darren McFadden. They could go in any one of those directions. They also need help at FS.


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    kyle (kansas): who are the best centers in this class, and what rounds are they projected to go?

    Mel Kiper: It's a very mediocre center group. I think Steve Justice at Wake Forest is a 3-4 round guy. Cody Wallace is more of a 5-6 round. Kory Lichtensteiger out of Bowling Green is a 5-6 rounder. Mike Pollak from ASU is a 6-7 round guy. Jamey Richard is a late round/undrafted guy.


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    Will (Austin,TX): Where will Jamaal Charles go in the draft? Any chance my Cowobys can land him with their low second round pick? Thanks for your time!

    Mel Kiper: I think he is a second round pick. The thing that makes him interesting is that he's a home run hitter. He only carried the ball 20 or more times just one time his first two years at Texas. This past season, there were 6 games that he carried the ball over 20 times. He runs with determination between the tackles. He scored 18 TDs this year. He's definitely a second rounder. I can't see him getting into the third round.

    Mel Kiper: If he got into the third round, you're getting phenomenal value.


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    Jay, Louisville KY: What position should the Seahawks be looking at in the 1st round? Does anyone jump off the page at the end of the 1st round that would help thier running game?

    Mel Kiper: The No. 1 need on this team is TE. I think Fred Davis the TE from USC makes some sense. Mike Holmgren wants the TE to be a part of this offense. They're snakebite in trying to find TEs. Another position they need help in is that they need a RB. I think Chris Johnson would be a great pick for somebody. They also could be looking at a WR.

    Mel Kiper: Also, an OG is another position of need. But definitely TE and RB are at the top of the list.

    Mel Kiper: Well, we're moving through this process full steam ahead. When we talk next Wednesday, the combine will be over. My next first round projection goes up on ESPN.com on Tuesday, March 4. That will include the combine. Movers and shakers. Guys moving up and down. That will all be coming up next week.
     
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    A-Lo (Rochester, NY): Mel, who do the dolphins target with their 2 2nd round picks?

    Mel Kiper: I think when you look at them, I think you probably go front seven on defense and I would probably go CB or WR with the second pick.


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    Ryan (Tampa): Mel, how do you see the oft-maligned former FSU quarterback Xavier Lee doing in the draft? Does his athleticism get him noticed as a project-type player for some team?

    Mel Kiper: It's interesting. He could have gone back to FSU and been a TE. I don't see his future in the NFL as a QB. We've seen a lot of QBs turn into NFL WRs. With his size, I could see Lee becoming a TE. You look at him, you think there has to be an opportunity to be a project. That's why I thought that if he had played at FSU this year and played well at TE, he could have helped himself a bit. If NFL teams are going to look at you as a TE, why not go back and play TE?

    Mel Kiper: He should have welcomed the chance to play another year at FSU and played TE.


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    Jacob Russell (Dayton, OH): What should the Chiefs do with their pick in the draft?

    Mel Kiper: Jake Long would be the guy you have to target if you're KC. OL is their No. 1 need. LT or RT and they need a G. Long would be the ideal fit. Other needs that they have to solidify is they need to get younger at CB. They have to get another WR. Other than Bowe, there's not a lot to speak of at WR. I'd come out of this draft with three OL if I were the Chiefs.


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    Denys (Miami): Hey Mel, is Matt Ryan worthy of being #1 pick for the Dolphins? Is this feasible?

    Mel Kiper: Yeah, he does. His grade to me is equal to what Roethlisberger, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers. So, no question he's worthy.


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    Peter ( Simi, CA ): Who do you see the Bucs targeting in the 1st, deep threat WR or CB?

    Mel Kiper: Tampa Bay, No. 1, they need a WR. Their offense needs to have more diversity and big play ability. Joey Galloway is not getting any younger. Plus he desperately needs a complimentary WR. Plus another RB. They don't know when Williams is coming back. They need a breakaway guy to compliment Earnest Graham. No. 3, they need a young CB. Those are the three areas.


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    Barbato (Scranton, PA): Is there any divison II players that anyone should be looking at?

    Mel Kiper: The non-I-A guys that you'd be looking at: Nick Hill, QB, S. Illinois; Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego; Xavier Omon, RB, NW Missouri St.; Tim Hightower, RB, Richmond; Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina; Bruce Hocker, WR, Duquesne; Mike Peterson, TE, NW Missouri St.; Kolo Kapanui, TE, W. Texas A+M; Demetrius Bell, OT, Northwestern St. (LA); Brian Johnston, DE, Gardner-Webb; Rudy Hardie, DE, Howard; Kroy Biermann, DE, Montana; Korey Lynch, S, Appalachain St.; Rob Zarrilli, PK, Hofstra; Mike Dragosavich, P, N. Dakota St.

    Mel Kiper: And Benjamin Dato, P, Fordham.


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    Jim: Ocean Springs: Mel, the college CB's are rated differently by almost everyone I've read. Without question the Saints need CB help, bad! So, what do you see the Saints doing with their #10 pick?

    Mel Kiper: I think it's going to be a DT or CB. I say DT because if Kentwan Balmer is there, he's going to be hard to pass up. You need someone who can collapse the pocket and create havoc in the interior. If they want to go CB, then Aqib Talib or McKelvin.


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    Josh, Statesboro GA: Hey bro, your the best, do you really think that Falcons will build the O-line and D-line first? Does that draft make sense for them to do that?

    Mel Kiper: I think what they have to do early on is to figure out what they want to do with that first pick. They have some major needs. QB, but Matt Ryan is going to be gone. They have nothing resembling a pro bowl caliber player on the OL. LT is a possibility. If they wanted to look at Jake Long, he could be there. They could look at RB like Darren McFadden. They could go in any one of those directions. They also need help at FS.


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    kyle (kansas): who are the best centers in this class, and what rounds are they projected to go?

    Mel Kiper: It's a very mediocre center group. I think Steve Justice at Wake Forest is a 3-4 round guy. Cody Wallace is more of a 5-6 round. Kory Lichtensteiger out of Bowling Green is a 5-6 rounder. Mike Pollak from ASU is a 6-7 round guy. Jamey Richard is a late round/undrafted guy.


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    Will (Austin,TX): Where will Jamaal Charles go in the draft? Any chance my Cowobys can land him with their low second round pick? Thanks for your time!

    Mel Kiper: I think he is a second round pick. The thing that makes him interesting is that he's a home run hitter. He only carried the ball 20 or more times just one time his first two years at Texas. This past season, there were 6 games that he carried the ball over 20 times. He runs with determination between the tackles. He scored 18 TDs this year. He's definitely a second rounder. I can't see him getting into the third round.

    Mel Kiper: If he got into the third round, you're getting phenomenal value.


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    Jay, Louisville KY: What position should the Seahawks be looking at in the 1st round? Does anyone jump off the page at the end of the 1st round that would help thier running game?

    Mel Kiper: The No. 1 need on this team is TE. I think Fred Davis the TE from USC makes some sense. Mike Holmgren wants the TE to be a part of this offense. They're snakebite in trying to find TEs. Another position they need help in is that they need a RB. I think Chris Johnson would be a great pick for somebody. They also could be looking at a WR.

    Mel Kiper: Also, an OG is another position of need. But definitely TE and RB are at the top of the list.

    Mel Kiper: Well, we're moving through this process full steam ahead. When we talk next Wednesday, the combine will be over. My next first round projection goes up on ESPN.com on Tuesday, March 4. That will include the combine. Movers and shakers. Guys moving up and down. That will all be coming up next week.
     
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    he was indeed... Oregons season went south with his injury, even with Stewart...
     
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    Bump... one week before the draft - here's my updated guys for 27...

    . Chris Williams, L/ROT... protect Rivers and allow LT to run right... great feet/agility, long arms, could be a little nastier... bookends to protect our $$$ investment... still the #1

    . Pat Sims, DE/NT... need some beef on the d-line... a lot of upside in this junior... can step into the DE rotation NOW - very good speed and penetration skills... has the frame to mature into a 3-4 NT... has fallen recently, due to some taint of "issues", nothing substantiated, but heck its liars month...

    . Quentin Groves, OLB... another guy that plays big in big games... a playmaker... when healthy, he can be dominant... teams have to know where he is... IF the OLB's on this team represent the pass rush, it's nice to have 4 (Tucker) that can rotate in and stay fresh even into the 4th Qtr... Am Still a Believer, especially with suspension a possiblility for Merriman...

    . T.Porter or C.Godfrey, CB... speed kills in the NFL at CB... perfect for our nickel to handle the slot (assumes Cro2 is gone)... need a guy that can handle the slot receiver, and given our competition in the AFC (Dolts/Cheats), means a speedster... these 2 represent the speed in this draft...

    I would substitute Tyvon Branch for Porter in the above CB selections..


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    Pat Sims does have issues.... his motor is dead and he is weak in run support.

    Chris Williams is also very weak and a poor run blocker. Probably one of the most overrated prospects in the draft as people are projecting him top 12 which is ridiculous for a player of his caliber. He is strictly a left tackle in the NFL and he is one of those guys who if for some reason he can't pan out at left tackle the minute he is thrown into the mix, he is going to have a hard time fitting into the league. His lateral quickness is good but he is a lot slower than his numbers would lead one to believe.

    Groves is not the elite pass rusher some make him out to be. NFL.com comparing him to DeMarcus Ware is a joke to me. Groves is very weak supporting the run, didn't even really produce jaw-dropping statistics in college, just all around doesn't have the "it" factor it takes to be a great pass rusher. IMO he will be a situational pass rusher in the NFL.

    Tracy Porter will play in the NFL and also be a nice punt returner, but he doesn't have a 1st round grade from me. He is more of a developmental type who should get by on his athleticism and playing in nickel/dime early on. He is a finesse player. In fact all the players you have listed so far are finesse players to me.

    Godfrey I watched him a couple of times and he looked good in those games but not enough for me to evaluate him properly. Regardless he doesn't seem like a guy who warrants being drafted in the 1st round. All I remember of him is that he is very physical, will support the run and has decent man coverage ability.

    Tyvon Branch in no way warrants a 1st round selection. I watched UConn like 15 times the past two years. I called Deon Anderson as the best fullback of last year's class. Tyvon was a good college player but at the NFL level he won't get further than a below average starting corner and potentially good return man. Dude is really not suited to work the middle of the field in nickel/dime packages as that is not his game. He has a bit of inconsistency to his game, stone hands, likes to bat down passes instead of exerting himself to try and intercept them.. you don't want this type of a player as one of your starting cornerbacks in the NFL. He is good at protecting the sidelines but any routes to the middle of the field he has great difficulty sticking with. He will struggle in the NFL against great route runners. He might be better suited at free safety.

    Given Nfldraftcountdown's latest mock draft as a guideline, here is who I would want at 27 given the player availability....

    #1 Antoine Cason

    The end.

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    Godfrey and Branch in the first round? :icon_eek:

    Must have been a late night for ya Ron. Sure you dont want to do this again? ;)


    I have to rethink mine since it is rumored that Merriman may be gone for the year. And if so, i say we dont resign him either.

    Albert
    Otah
    Cherilus

    TRADE DOWN

    Flowers
    Cason
    Groves (if Merriman is gone)
    Avril (if Merriman is gone)
     
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    hey BJ did you see people are predicting Albert to go to the Chiefs #5 overall :icon_rofl:

    The guy will be a pro-bowl lineman but not at left tackle :no: He is like Marcus McNeill's long lost baby brother except a guard :yes:
     
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    I have seen it once and you never know. I would be surprised tho.
     
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    I've seen it on 3-4 drafts updated yesterday & today. He's gonna make someone a very good guard, possibly a RT. #5 is high, but you never know.
     
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    The bottom line is that Matt Ryan provides three times the value and Sedrick Ellis provides twice the value in that scenario to the Chiefs. I have no doubt Albert can be a pro-bowl guard but he is raw and teams like him because of his attitude and physical package which are both the best of the best. He is also very coachable which is why teams might be tempted to take him high as he can learn the tackle spots but would he succeed is the big question. But Albert over the best QB to come out since Carson Palmer and Sedrick Ellis? :no: Brodie Croyle is a chinadoll :yes: Ellis is just a dominant player, really. Can't say enough about him and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get drafted before Dorsey :yes:

    I mean put it this way, if you were the Chargers, who would you rather the Chiefs have, Branden Albert or Sedrick Ellis?
     
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    not as far fetched as it may seem, they're both faster the Cason... and although I have Branch seeded lower than Cason, I'd take him as much for being able to play corner and safety, but he can also return kicks... Cason doesn't have that flexibility...
     
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    Since when do we need a kick returner and Cason can return punts. I will admit Tyvon has the potential to be a very good return man but in terms of ability to play CB Cason is 100 times more advanced than Branch. Cason plays faster on the field than either of those guys and Cason's technique is impeccable. He has good ball skills and is an amazing character player. He is also ready to step in right away.
     

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