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Draft Day 2 Rounds 2-3

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    We might as well get this thread goin before we end up in the day 1 thread again.

    Lewis: Flexibility could mean Bengals trade up
    by Paul Dehner Jr., CBSSports.com
    The Bengals own an extra third-round pick and three fifth-round selections this weekend. It allows a possibility to move up in the second round Friday. Coach Marvin Lewis sounded open to the concept Friday afternoon. "We do have some flexibility to possibly move one way or the other," he said. "We spent this afternoon trying to reorder things and prioritize where we are."

    Trades=Falling Stars or stolen goods. Cant wait to see who starts it up first.
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    Redskins' third-round targets: No. 5 -- S
    by John Keim, CBSSports.com
    The Redskins have signed three safeties this offseason, but none are guaranteed starters. They need someone with speed who can cover deep. This is not a strong safety class, but South Carolina’s Anthony Allen (better covering TEs) or Boise State’s George Iloka are possibilities.
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    RB Martin explains 'Muscle Hamster' nickname
    by Scott Purks, CBSSports.com
    Boise State RB Doug Martin somewhat reluctantly, but graciously, explained Friday how he got his nickname, "Muscle Hamster," to Tampa's media: "My friend back in Boise, an offensive lineman, called me [Muscle Hamster] because of my stature [5-9] and muscle build. It's just stayed with me."

    Yea a nickname like that could deserve som 'splainin.
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    Report: Patriots won't draft CB Jenkins
    by Greg Bedard, CBSSports.com
    The Patriots are likely to look at DBs and RBs, and perhaps trade down with their two remaining picks -- both in the second round, the Boston Globe reported. Troubled North Alabama CB Janoris Jenkins will not be drafted by the team, the paper said.
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    McCoy headed for Green Bay?
    by Marty Gitlin, CBSSports.com
    The Browns and Packers are discussing a deal that could send QB Colt McCoy to Green Bay, according to Packer Report. NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora writes that the Eagles might also be in the mix for McCoy. The Packers need a backup to Aaron Rodgers after losing Matt Flynn in free agency.
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    Patriots' final two picks may address CB and WR needs
    by Greg Bedard, CBSSports.com
    Looking ahead to Day 2 of the draft: The Patriots have only two picks remaining in the entire draft -- the 16th and 31st picks in the second round. They will likely be looking for a CB, WR and, if they deal one pick for more, a cover LB and perhaps a guard.

    I hope this is what NE does and they dont try to play trade partner.
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    Phillips plans to use all three OLB on the field
    by Brandon Williams, CBSSports.com
    In OLBs Connor Barwin and Brooks Reed along with first round DE/OLB Whitney Mercilus, DC Wade Phillips sees comparisons with the Chargers trio of OLBs Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips and DE Luis Castillo, who combined for 35.5 sacks when Phillips coached them in 2006. Phillips said that he plans to come up with schemes that put all three on the field along with starting DEs Antonio Smith and J.J. Watt .

    What a surprise.
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    So Cowboys could be trying to get their need at S filled with their third pick at 81. Lucky for us we pick at 78. We should think about goin for our S pick with the third before Dal can take another we could use.
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    From Kevin Acee
    Lavonte David. Just a name to keep in mind for the second round. Love him.
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    Allen looking at third through sixth rounds
    by Eric Gilmore, CBSSports.com
    Coach Dennis Allen, to 95.7 FM The Game, on the Raiders having no draft picks in the first two rounds but five from the third through sixth rounds. “I think that’s really where teams kind of define themselves is being able to pick up the mid- and late-round picks that end up being productive players for you.”

    Damn we need to for sure get the Guys we want. Oak is about to FIANLY get their chance to improve their team from the draft.
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    You think we are goin OLB again based on Acee tossin a name out there? I am kinda interested in another OLB. BUT that prob means my guy Gatchkar wont make the cut. Does Lavonte play on STs?
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    I think he's going safety with Lavonte David - yes, I said it
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    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/profile.php?pyid=106633

    Overview
    David is Mr. Max, as in maximum effort, attitude, results and, unfortunately, his size, which he cannot increase any more. He reaffirmed his athleticism at the Combine with an unofficial 40-yard time of 4.65 seconds and an explosive vertical jump of 36.5 inches.
    NFL scouts aren't sure whether to play him at linebacker or strong safety. But somebody will draft him, put him on the field somewhere and he will do what he has always done -- tackle people. He worked hard to get this far, so being told he is too small won't phase him.
    David had a sensational high school career with Miami Northwestern's No. 1-ranked team, but due to low grades he played at Fort Scott Community College, where his team lost a national championship game to Cam Newton's Blinn College.
    When he finally arrived at Nebraska, David proved he was a tackling machine by setting a school record with 152 tackles in 2010 and finished his career with 285. He has pass coverage and ball reaction instincts to be an excellent nickel linebacker.


    Analysis
    Read & React: Tough player with excellent instincts and quick reaction time, involves himself in many run and pass plays all over the field. Occasionally guesses, flying into holes instead of finding the ball then attacking it and leaving his area open to receivers and running lanes.
    Run defense: Plays mostly in the box, flies through creases to wrap up the legs of backs trying to find a hole or attempting to get to the sideline. Despite his lack of size, attacks oncoming linemen with a punch or stiff-arm into their chest and makes tackles in the box with blockers on his back. Gives and gets the worst of collisions inside.
    Pass defense: Strong in coverage, often used as the only linebacker on the field against spread defenses. Possesses the quickness to stay with running backs on wheel routes or trail across the middle. Stays with underneath routes while in zone, able to break up passes in front of receivers with front hand without interfering. Gives up size to most NFL-caliber tight ends and better backs separate during routes with length and strength. Bites on aggressive arrow routes, loses his balance when trying to change directions at times.
    Tackling: Hustling chase tackler who hits the thighs and wraps up legs very effectively. Tries to strip the ball when tackle is secured, has good success even against tight ends. Bigger ballcarriers can stiff-arm him in the open field because of his lack of size and length, but it does not happen too often.
    Pass Rush/Blitz: Explodes through creases to reach the passer, bringing down most with a strong hit. Also chases down quarterbacks escaping the pocket to rack up sacks. Rips off running back blocks to chase the passer but freezes too often when initially facing them, making him late to reach the ball.
    Intangibles: Good football work ethic and intelligence. Possesses strong character and humble attitude, called "coach's dream" by Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini.


    Combine Invite: Yes
    Height: 6004
    Weight: 233
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.65
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 19
    Vertical Jump: 36 1/2
    Broad Jump: 09'11"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.22
    3-Cone Drill: 7.28

    Position: OLBPos2: ILB/SS Class/Draft Year: Sr/2012
    40 Low: 4.53 40 Time: 4.65 40 High: 4.75
    Projected Round: 2 High: Late 1 Low: Late 2 Stock: [​IMG]
    Rated number 3 out of 135 OLB's 41 / 1971 TOTAL
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    Im sold I think the third best OLB in the class?? AND since hes undersized for most OLBs in any scheme he can be a perfect transition to SS. Hes got enuff speed, he has the attitude you want in a HITTER and he can wrap up.
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    A short vid on Lavonte:

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    Huh SportsIllustrated site has him listed at 210 lbs... Im pretty sure he maxed out his frame at 233 as reported on NFL.com. Which means maybe he could drop 5-10 and gain the speed it sounds like he has shown before.
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    i like him lavonte a lot but u guys think we should draft him to play safety? i would think a better fit for him would be at inside linebacker in our 3-4
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    Has a great nose for the football and plays fast....... might make the switch to SS without too much trouble.
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    Talk about polishing a turd. Chokeland traded away their whole draft and that's somehow a positive.
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    I think he looks like a good ILB, but we got plenty of ILBs to see what we get out of first. IMO hes not third best OLB, but he very well could be one of the best conversion options.

    He was projected as far as bottom of the first. His closer to realistic grade value says he will be a 2-3rd pick and could be a guy that drops out of the third.
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    Um for what they got, it is a positive. (for us) Im just sayin we will need to be aware they are going to be goin for some of the same players at positions of need. I think every team in the AFC West has a need on the OL.
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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...l-draft-round-2-3-needs-for-every-team/page/2

    Its BR yea, but its only 4 hours old.

    San Diego Chargers

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    Offensive Guard: The Chargers still need to replace Kris Dielman.
    Running Back: Ryan Mathews is the man, but they have no proven backups and Mathews has been injury-prone.
    Strong Safety: The Chargers didn't land Mark Barron or Harrison Smith, so they'll need to bring in a young strong safety to develop later in the draft.
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    Lookin at the team needs of the NFL as a whole, there are ALOT of teams in need of a G or a S. I realy hope we can get out of this draft with 2 potential GREATs at OG and SS. Looks like there will deffinatly be a run on OLinemen. Oline Corners Safetys and receivers?? Could be all that is drafted in the first half of the draft.

    Well Den will go DT or OLB.
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    Reports: Rams not trading first pick of second round, targeting specific player

    By Will Brinson

    NEW YORK -- The St. Louis Rams are on the clock with the first pick in the second round of the 2012 NFL Draft. And though they've got significant leverage for a possible trade (and have already made plenty of moves to begin with), it appears they've got a guy targeted for the 33rd overall pick and won't be moving.

    Mike Silver of Yahoo Sports, who's working out of the Rams' war room this week, tweeted on Friday afternoon that he knows "who the Rams will likely take at 33." That implies, I think, that the Rams won't be trading the pick. And Adam Schefter of ESPN confirms that implication, tweeting that "at this time, St. Louis does not intend to trade the first pick in the second round."

    The Rams have a lot of needs, and chief among them might be wide receiver. And there are some interesting names at that spot too. Dane Brugler of NFLDraftScout.com put together his best available players for Friday's drafting action and Stephen Hill out of Georgia Tech and Rueben Randle of LSU are slotted at eight and nine and could make sense for the Rams with the first pick.

    CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco and myself -- currently sitting on the CBSSports.com Live Draft Show, which starts at 6:30 -- have a theory that the first pick in the second round will come as a shocker and that the Rams might pick North Alabama cornerback Janoris Jenkins.

    Jenkins is a superstar talent-wise, and a nightmare when it comes to character concerns. In other words, he reminds us a lot of Pacman Jones, who Fisher took in the first round of the 2005. Except Jenkins comes at a much cheaper cost, and the resulting discussion will revolve around Fisher's ability to maintain team discipline and turn Jenkins into a star.

    If it happens (again, it's just a theory; if it's right I'll take credit and if it's wrong give Pete props) it'll make for some fascinating discussion about the future of the Rams.


    AND that player is...... CORDY GLENN!!
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    Right here I am looking at

    Kendall Reyes
    Josh Robinson
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    Cordy Glenn
    Dwayne Allen
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    Vikings considering trading back into second round
    by Joe Oberle, CBSSports.com
    While there is depth in the draft at both CB and WR -- two areas of need for Minnesota -- the Vikings may still need to trade back up into the second round to get the player they want. "We are looking at that,” coach Leslie Frazier told KFAN radio. “It’s a matter of if a guy we really covet is there for the right price."
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    I like Stephen Hill, but I beleive they can get WR with their next pick unless they intend to try and trade that pick.

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