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Drafting or sigining LT's Replacement :(

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by NORV4LIFE, Nov 12, 2009.

  1. NORV4LIFE
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    With reports of LT retiring :( or leaving the bolts :( In the unfortunate event he leaves who would be the best bet for the chargers to get as RB? Of course more important thatn RB is fixing the Oline so its possible to run at all but in the sad event of retirement or AJ letting LT go what would be the best move for the bolts in your opinion?

    Should we draft

    Jonathan Dwyer?

    Jahvid Best?

    CJ Spiller?


    The big plus to spiller is his size and young age. he is only 20 now so he could have a long career.

    Or should the chargers trade or pick up in free agency and who?
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    Oh my ****ing god man, can you please let us try to enjoy this season before we start worrying about replacements?

    best regards
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    I'm moving this here because if this thing is to be a viable thread this is the section it should be.

    And FYI I don't want to draft a running back until minimum the third round unless somehow one of those top three backs fall into hte second. We need a NT, a DE and a RT now MORE then another running back
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    I'm not saying to ban this kid/guy/girl/marmocet, whatever, but can someone please limit the amount of threads he/she/ can create????
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    what this is a serious topic. Im sorry for posting it in the wrong section though.
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    There was already an active thread on the same subject.

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    next time I will use search!
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    The only reason I'll talk about this now is because I'm a sucker for draft talk....

    Spiller- is a Bush/Sproles clone. XFactor player that I'm not sure we actually need. Hardly ever runs between the tackles and doesn't even carry the load in college. Not a 20+ carry guy at the next level.
    Best- is good, electrifying, but he's not going to get short yardage in the NFL....again another Sproles/Bush player I think. I'll have to do some more research to see how he breaks tackles or if he's just a scat back.
    DWYER.... He's not actually a halfback at GTech, he's a fullback in a rushing friendly triple option scheme. He's a long strider and very heavy footed, doesn't have much lateral quickness, I don't think he'd bring much more than a Brandon Jacobs. A guy who'd have a very short shelf life and would have to be spelled often.

    Now the guy I like is Ryan Mathews. 5'11, 223lbs, hits the hole hard and has good lateral quickness.....even more impressive is the 2nd and 3rd gear is surprising from a guy so stocky. He is deceptively fast like LT used to be, it doesn't always look like he's moving fast but all of a sudden he rounds the corner and is GONE! Also big enough to break arm tackles.


    Watch the moves around the 2:50 mark...you'll notice the jump cut and the stiff arm.....like another guy I know who wears #21.
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    I think we should wait for a couple of years and snag Mark Ingram when the need is there
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    When the need is there?:icon_eek: LT is not even going to break 1000yds this year, we all know Sproles isn't an every down back, and apparently Michael Bennett fell off the face of the earth. We have no future at RB right now, no 23yr old in grooming on the whole roster.

    I think RB and RT are needs 1a and 1b right now. NT is huge too, but if Jamal does come back along with Bingham and Martin we may be able to hold off another year.
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    NT and RT are 1a 1b. Replacement RB is 2 or 3 at least
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    AJ, is that you?

    ILB is a priority need as well.
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    HAHAHA I just like draft talk, and I got started early again this year with the slow start. The one thing I don't want is for them to fall back into a vanilla non-contender when they're trying so hard for a stadium.


    There is depth at ILB. Cooper, Burnett, Siler, Dobbins are all pretty solid. But an upgrade would be nice.
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    So if LT doesn't come back, your cool with 5'6 Sproles, 32yr old Bennett, and some 4th or 5th round rookie toting the ball for next year? I smell a 32nd ranked rushing attack again.:no:

    No matter what we know Norv is going to committ to a balanced offense like he has this year, he's determined to run the ball on 1st down. We need a guy a in the backfield that forces defenses to respect the run, and takes pressure off Rivers to do all the work.
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    Same here, just ribbing ya.

    I do realize that we need to address RB, but it appears that more & more teams are going with the committee approach now. That's why I really think that we can pick up a guy in the 3-5 range that can be a scatback complement to Tolbert as our bruiser or be a bruiser complement to LT/Sproles. It all depends on what happens with those 2 guys. We can't afford to over-pay either of them with so many other guys that need to be locked up.

    ILB may be alright, but that depends on how you view Dobbins & Siler. I'd love to feel comfortable saying yeah, they're the guys of the future, but I just haven't seen enough yet to go there. Maybe by season's end I will. For now, I'm still looking at that position for an upgrade. Probably won't be able to reach Spikes or McClain, but I also like Micah Johnson out of Kentucky.

    One thing I feel pretty adamant about - we need to spend our 1st couple of picks on our defensive front 7. The only other position that I might spend that high for is OT. There's not a RB in this class that I'd spend a 1st on. :no:
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    I agree we need to find LT's replacement, but Jamal's replacement is equally if not more important. Especially with the run game not being our bread and butter for wins anymore.
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    LT is scheduled to make 6+ mil next year guaranteed....and its doubtfull he's even going to break 1000yds this year. As much as it kills me to say it LT probably won't be a Charger next year, and it will be the end of an era.:icon_cry:

    My list of priorities would be...
    1. RB - Sorry but I don't like the idea of Sproles and Tolbert splitting the load. I think we need a guy who scares teams into respecting the run and crowding the line, taking pressure off Rivers. And I think Norv is too committed to have a balanced offense to not have a horse in the backfield.
    2a. O-line - RT is a serious issue even if Clary comes back. But as we know tackles go FAST, and by the time we pick I think all the ones worthy of a 1st round reach will be gone....but if a Michael Oher like talent is there again we should absolutely take him.
    2b. NT - Getting the next Jamal has already been put off too long. But Ryon Bingham will come back, and we drafted Vaughn Martin for this job and as soon as he's not so raw maybe it can work.

    Aj will have to land a steal or two to fill all our needs for next year.
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    1A - NT
    1B - RB
    2 - O-line
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    I would really like to see that. Keep LT as TD specialist... and get mark ingram as the every down guy!

    Or LEgarrete Blount in the 7th round would be nice
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    You can never be sure your going to get a particular guy in any draft. Ingram will probably be on the top of everyone's big board, so unless we go 4-12 (god forbid:icon_eek:) we don't have a chance.

    I really hope AJ doesn't sleep on the kid Ryan Mathews this year, if not for his injury his stock would be much higher.
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    Mathews needs to learn to tuck the ball in tighter, but otherwise I like him.
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    Drafting RB's is so hard, you can't tell much from just a highlight reel. The reason I'm so sold on Mathews is because I watched him a lot this year and I know he's a pain in the *** SOB to bring down, and fast too boot.

    Even though I don't think CJ Spiller is the kind of back we need right now, he looks exactly like LaDanian did in college, and Chris Johnson for that matter. They all just seem to be playing at a different speed than everyone else.........but then again so was Reggie Bush and Darren McFadden.

    Its the inbetween big plays that you have to focus on. Does he get 4+yds on almost every play, or is it +2, -1, +1, +40.
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    LT worked well the first time. It would be hard for anyone to live up to him but whats wrong with an LT style back. Or Chris Johnson. He's not bad either...
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    It's just that for every LT there are two or three Reggie Bush's and KiJana Carters.

    That's not to say we shouldn't draft a RB in fear of having a bust, just saying the draft and its reports suck sometimes.
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    Well there is no obvious LT in this draft, no 5'10 220+lb guy that runs 4.4 and cuts like Barry Sanders.....the closest to it is Ryan Mathews who isn't quite as fast or quick, but I am convinced will be the best all around back in this draft in terms of being able to get the edge, and also push a pile and catch out of the backfield.
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    Do you think Mark Ingram will enter the draft? If he does do we have a shot at him somehow? I'd love to see Ingram and LT. Ingram could be the every down back. LT could be the goal line guy since no one has ever done it better than him!
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    I'd like to see Stanford's Toby Gerhart drafted. That boy can bash heads!
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    I like Gerhart a lot, I just don't see how he fits in Norv's offense. He's not that fast, he doesn't split out wide and create mis-matches, he is a strait forward pounder with little or no lateral quickness.....basically he's Mike Alstott without recieving skills.
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    Why is anybody mentioning Ingram? Hes a true sophomore- he is not eligible for the draft till the end of next season. :icon_huh:
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    An good, quality RB can be found in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft, and with our focus being on an offense through the air, we do not need another LT to improve this team.

    That said, if Gerhart falls to the 2nd round, I would be all for taking him, and Ingram is also the style of back that we could use. We have a back capable of the huge play (Sproles) and Rivers excels at picking up huge chunks of yardage, but a short-yardage back is essential to completing this offense, someone with power who can keep going after contact. :yes:

    It is why LT works well in this offense right now--his ability to break open the big play has all but diminished, but he always finds the goal line and has a strong initial burst.

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