Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Blue Bolt, Jan 6, 2013.
Wouldn't want you to feel left out.
He's looked like a winner in 86.8 percent of games he's coached thus far.
Kelly is not leaving Oregon. http://espn.go.com/college-football...ly-spurns-nfl-return-oregon-ducks-sources-say
I didn't want Kelly anyway. I'd rather not take the chance with a gimmick offense.
I just didn't get the "he doesn't look like a winner" quip. Unless it was sarcasm that went over my head?
Like most here I don't want Gruden either. He's had the cushy TV job this last while, he's too long away from it all. But Nick is right that we 'need a commander. (We) need someone up there on the bridge staring down at his crew not necessarily a captain beloved by his players, but respected'.
They say Norv was respected, he probably was. But he was in no way a 'commander'. If anything he was staring up at his crew, as in cowering up almost.
Of all the names being bandied about..... and to be honest there is not a great choice on the Chargers list thus far, I'd probably go for Whisenhunt. But I don't want it to be him. I want us to find another Bobby Ross type.
Those same idiots complain that we "traded Turner", nevermind the fact that we didn't trade him, he clearly stated that he wasn't going to re-sign unless he could be the starter, and LT had just won his 2nd consecutive rushing title. Those same fans would have **** their pants if we would have traded LT or cut him, just so Turner could have the starting job.
In all honesty, I don't think Gruden wants to come back anyways, afterall, there is a reason he hasn't interviewed for a single job. All the "rumors" arej ust his agent trying to get ESPN to give him more money.
Except the fact that there is just a wee bit of difference from the college game to the NFL but why let that cloud the issue. I can throw names out there just as the rest of you can, but when the sun goes down and the day is done, it's Deans decision and he holds the trump card. Wolfman can offer up the best candidate available and Dean can disagree and go in his own direction, that's what scares me. IMHO, this whole thing rides on the new GM. If this person doesn't really wield the power to implement his plan, it's all for naught.
Unless Turner had had a better season than LT did that same year and/or we'd won a Superbowl.
He interviewed for the Tennessee Vols HC job. The only reason he wasn't hired was the university balked at the pay requirements for his coaching staff.
Just his coaching staff?
They had no problem paying him what he wanted. But the althletic department was just too cash strapped from buying Dooley and his staff out to pay Gruden what he wanted for his staff.
You'd think anyone would be happy to just have the opportunity to work with a genius like Gruden...... who needs money, when you're next to greatness?
I was surprised to see Gruden slummin' in the college ranks. He was probably just screwing with them, getting their hopes up
The Bolt's need a HC that can take his'n and beat your'n, then turn around and take your'n and beat his'n. Chucky's been there and done that.
Yes, but they would have freaked out then and the team would have had thousands of season ticket holders canceling. I am willing to bet the team woudl have loved to do it, they just knew they couldn't risk Turner turning into Lamont Jordan and cutting LT coming off back to back rushing titles to see it happen
The Vols are not an NFL team. I don't care if he interviews for 100 college jobs, he hasn't even been interviewed for a NFL job, which to me, i question how much he wants to come back to the NFL
There were discussions among the two sides late last week, but Gruden informed Tennessee officials after talking with his family that it was a move he didn't want to make at this time, according to sources.
"Coach Gruden has let us know that he's not interested, and we're pursuing other candidates," a Tennessee official said.
Doesn't sound to me like Tennessee balked at his contract demands
I'm not. The NFL is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league where there will always be new, fresh names and faces. Gruden is four years removed from having even coached at all, and 5 (arguably 7) years since he had a season worth hanging his hat on. Honestly it says A LOT that the only ones kicking his name around as a coaching prospect are ESPN (who he works for) and that his name hasn't been attached to any actual news for any team with a coaching vacancy (not even for interest - it's always just prognostication and hypotheticals). I'd say, honestly, Chucky's window has closed UNLESS he goes to the college ranks and re-establishes it.
As promised, here are the comments from one of the Bucs fan poster over at my site that I put quite a lot of stock in (him... and therefore the comments):
Chucky makes big money for 1 day of work.
He's probably got a nice big belly now, too.
He wants his own video game franchise.
The good life.
Report: Spurned by Kelly, Browns could turn focus to GrudenPosted by Darin Gantt on January 7, 2013, 5:41 PM ESTApparently not content to limit the applicant pool to rising NFL assistants, the Browns seem eager to jump into the deep end again.After being spurned by Oregon’s Chip Kelly, the Browns might be ready to pursue Jon Gruden, according to Mary Kay Cabot of theCleveland Plain Dealer.Cabot points out Gruden’s Sandusky, Ohio-roots, and the University of Tennessee link to owner Jimmy Haslam.Both denied a previous report that Haslam offered Gruden a stake in his new team, and it will be interesting to see how they respond to this one.It’s clear by the aggressive push they made for Kelly that Haslam wants the Browns to make a splash as much as find a football coach.And at this point, Gruden’s probably the closest thing left to a cannonball that’s out there.
Bluey, that was almost immediately followed by this, from the same source (PFT):
Source: Jon Gruden isn’t on Cleveland’s radar screen
Posted by Mike Florio on January 7, 2013, 6:40 PM EST
APChip Kelly won’t be the next coach of the Cleveland Browns, and Jon Gruden won’t be, either.
Contrary to a report from the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the Browns “might” pursue Gruden, a source with direct knowledge of the situation tells PFT that Gruden isn’t, and won’t be, on the Browns’ radar screen.
Per the source, the Browns also have no interest in making a “splash” with their hire. The goal was and is laying the foundation for a consistently successful and competitive football operation.
The latest Gruden rumor comes several weeks after his name was circulated both for jobs at the University of Tennessee and with the Oakland Raiders. It appears that the latest leaked item could be aimed at generating interest in Cleveland or elsewhere at a time when Gruden apparently is ready to consider returning to the game — but no one seems to be banging on his door.
As much as I love that old saying, it implies a coach who is super competent, who has
the smarts to overcome personnel, and put a beatdown on the guy on the other sideline.
That sure ain't Gruden!! After Jon blew his load 10 years ago, the anonymous guy on
the other sideline was the more competent, winning coach over Gruden MOST OF THE TIME...
Yep, the average NFL coach took his'n and beat Gruden's "world champs" routinely.
Let's get past the Chucky mystique...
You had to know it was pure BS........ Gruden is as hot a commodity these days as AJ Smith.
It's only the owner of the U-T that's desperate to hire the guy (and a few deluded fans).
Wait! Canepa actually owns the U-T? I mean granted this explains SO MUCH. But... I didn't think they let greasy, fugly, slimeballs own newspapers. Oh wait...
Did you not see the U-T editorial?....... 7 Reasons to Hire Jon Gruden
They misspelled John.
Past tense is the key. That's why I'd like someone like Keith butler or even Mike Zimmer but as we all know, it's going to come down to the new GM and of course Deano. Joe Gibbs didn't fare so well when he came out of retirement. I don't know how Chucky would do but he'd be fun and funny to watch.
I'm happy he's staying here in Oregon
Besides, it's more difficult for a college coach to transition to the NFL than it looks on the surface. Anybody remember Mike Riley? He rocked at coaching the Oregon State Beavers, but when he went to the Chargers the wheels fell off his little red wagon almost before he got started. Don't see the need to repeat that mistake when we desperately need a HC with NFL experience
And here I'd always taken that to mean that everyone in Oregon was a bunch o' sissies!!
I met the telephone operator once, and she knows a lot about football... but I think Gamble would be the best. Happy Tuesday...do we get him or not?
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