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Kaeding goes down for the year, the Chargers stand at 4-7

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by HollywoodLeo, Nov 27, 2011.

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    I think if Novak would consistently show that he could not make clutch kicks then there would be more fuss. Since this was not a playoff game and knowing this team would never get to a SB people may be more... numb.
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    Clutch kicks are clutch kicks... consistency need not be considered. If it's good for the goose, it has to be good for the gander right?

    Regardless, this team needs to start building over... starting at the top.
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    This isn't on Novak, the man was asked to kick a 53 yarder for the win. That is a tough kick for any kicker.

    This is on Norv for settling for a 50+ yarder instead of trying to gain yardage. He ran 3 straight predictable rush plays straight up the middle rather than try to really gain anything, he settled for a longshot, and that's what he got.
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    The situation being tough for any kicker didn't stop haters from immediately branding the "chokes in the clutch" label on Kaeding immediately after he missed a potential game winner in the rain against the wind aginst the Jets his rookie year.

    Granted Nate didn't help his cause by missing more and more playoff kicks as the years went on, but that's all after the fact.
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    Missing a 40 yarder is not like missing a 53 yarder.
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    You're right. Rainy conditions and kicking against the wind don't make it tougher.
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    Just a light drizzle that day. Just ask the jets kicker. :sneaky:
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    It had rained alot throughout that day & night, and Herm Edwards "played to win the game" by having his offense advance the ball close enough to make it a glorified extra point for then Jets kicker Doug Brien, who went on to get released after missing a few kicks the following week in a divisional round loss at Pittsburgh.
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    Oh Moses, I blame Novak, not Norv. Norv sucks, this we know, and I think he was definitely partially responsible for the loss but Novak's the one with the job description "kicks field goals" and he failed to kick the game-winning FG. If it was Nate, we'd all be up in arms. It's Nick this time, and nothing should be different.
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    I blame Norv more, for the timid playcalling that made each of Nick Novak's field goal attempts alot longer than they needed be. Let's not forget, we picked Novak up off the scrap heap, and his career long entering the game was about 51 yards, so Norv trots him out to attempt two 53 yarders, and one from 48.

    John Fox didn't fool around when setting up his kicker for success, he kept advancing the ball forward until it was a chip shot attempt for Prater. Norv coached scared and played not to lose but not surprisngly, we did anyway as will often happen whenever a coach goes into the fetal position like Norval did.
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    ^ This. Sure Novak missed the kick and he has to take some responsibility for that, but let's be realistic in our expectations and not pretend like a 53 yarder in a pressure situation is a chip shot. That's a difficult kick, and in my view unnecessarily long because Norv could've called more aggressive plays to at least try to gain more yards. It's one thing if you tried the best you could and the closest you coould get is a 53 yarder, then you take your chance and live with the results. But what does not sit well with many fans is the fact that rather than trying for more yards he practically had the team lie down and accept a tougher situation without doing enough to help his kicker get into a more makeable position. Norv knows who his kicker is. He knows that 53 yards is a career long, he knew this is a backup kicker, knew that the dude had already missed 1 in the game from closer than 53, so not doing everything possible to try and advance the ball is cowardly, and in my opinion inexcusable.

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