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OFFICIAL: 2009 NFL DRAFT THREAD

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by AnteaterCharger, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. CoronaDoug

    CoronaDoug Well-Known Member

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    Some people are saying that we are having a good draft and are *****ing about the people who think we are not having a good draft. I have to say that I am not impressed with it. Just remember there is a 50-50 chance that you are right. We will not know for a few years so just stop thinking that you are right. :icon_tease:
     
  2. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    I've never heard ANY of the names the Chargers picked...

    having said that I'll trust AJ as the GM over you guys, and I hope that those of you that "have lost respect for AJ" start a thread later on (maybe next season or so) and admit that you where wrong and AJ was right

    I agree with Ant, this is the "bring some nastiness and attitude to this soft team" draft :abq2:

    P.S. forget all the "is Phillips moving to ILB, wher will he play?.." talk, they find packages, rotate, move around whatever, if they make plays they'll find their way onto the field
     
  3. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    I don't see anyone that "supports" this draft thinking they are right, more like a wait and see, in AJ we trust (over you) stance
     
  4. CoronaDoug

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    This draft is AJ's biggest test. AJ is still my man but unlike others I question him from time to time. Only time will tell.
     
  5. Retired Catholic

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    I said earlier that I wondered if English could be moved inside to take Wilhelm's spot. He's a big linebacker with quickness and speed and blitzing him from that position would be real disruptive. If they think they can use him as an LB in a nickel, then he could make that switch without much trouble.
     
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    master of puppets. I fully agree. Our defense should train some surprisingly plays, why not rush with 4 or 5 including
    Merriman, Philipps, Tucker and English
     
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    three teams are drafting then Charger's stand in the row.
     
  8. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    me likey! come hard, come often, Jammer, Cro and Cason can hold the wr for a couple of seconds while the kill the QB :abq1:
     
  9. CoronaDoug

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    There is our safety
     
  10. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Interesting

    Kevin Ellison OLB/S USC
     
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    cool safety and from USC at the 6th round if hes healthy is a bargain
     
  12. cranberry

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    Kevin Ellsion Safty
     
  13. AnteaterCharger

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    Questions about his speed but I wonder if they're not overblown. Guy played very well at USC
     
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    A 4.8 and three knee operations. This one may not make out of camp healthy.

    They say he is a good field general though. Intelligence over speed at safety everytime for me.
     
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    I don't expect anyone to be as excited as me - but I mean, you complain about everything all the time :( It was a serious question, does anything they do ever please you?

    I trust the front office to make good draft decisions - they won't always be right and I am still wishing we had a 2nd rounder this year but, over all... I love our team. We won't know for a few months at the very least just how good or bad some of these picks might be but what excites me the most is the direction they seem to be going. Smashmouth aggressive angry football.

    You assume so much on what round someone should be - and that we should have traded up etc... I just don't think that they would have passed up someone who was the right fit for our team because they wanted to be "clever".
     
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    also was known to bring the pain on the plays, was a hammer at SS
     
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    Is this working for anybody?........

    What's the scoop on Ellison?, has he not played in 08 or something?, another Cro, Anthony Waters eh?. 3rd times a charm.
     
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    Has had what looks like some chronic problems with his knees. Not especially fast. His size might make him a stud on special teams.
     
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    Watching Ellison's highlights, dude, he brings the freakin pain. Saw him knock some people out. Seriously I don't think he's as slow as the 4.8 speed and if he does he can be one powerful enforcer. I think this guy might be the perfect compliment to Weddle. Oh and he is CONSTANTLY pissed off along with having outstanding character.

    HAVE YOU NOTICED THE TREND YET????
     
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    One pick left to draft a kicker! :icon_tease:
     
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    I'm excited because AJ has hit alot more than he's missed. English looks like a pass rushing beast and you can never have too many of those guys.

    I don't get your "random" comment. English might not have been who you expected, but he was considered a first round prospect. As for Vasquez, the Sporting News had him listed as the 10th best day 2 prospect at the start of the day, and we got him with the 16th pick of day 2, so it seems like we took him around where he was expected to go. The fourth round guys are hard to find fault with. One is a raw NT/DE with huge upside. One is a power runner, which we needed. And one is guay who will provide depth at guard/center, something we really need.

    I really fail to see what all the complaining is about, except some always complain because they think they know better than the pros. It's not like we took English when a vastly superior 3-4 lb pass rusher was still available. Last year showed that at the very least we need to improve our depth at OLB. Without Merriman, our pass rush was atrocious.
     
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    Look at him run at the combine. I think he is even slower than 4.8.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/kevin-ellison?id=71291

    But speed at safety is overrated. If he can bring the hammer he can be a good pickup.
     
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    Here's Kevin Ellison blowing DeSean Jackson up from when Jackson was at Cal:

     
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    Let me see how he runs in pads before i immediately say he's too damn slow
     
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    LOVE IT!

    MAKE THEM CRY!
     
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    Here's an article that talks about how bad Mel Kiper's grade of us was for the 2005 draft. link

    You never know on draft day and these grades are bullshyt at this point. You have to wait a few years to know if it was a good draft or not.
     
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    Typically, the only teams that get really high grades are teams with top 10 picks or teams with multiple first rounders.

    There's almost no correlation between draft grades and draft success. The "expert analysts" are as wrong as much as they are right.
     
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    The last guys I trust about their blather are Kiper and Corso.
     

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