No trades, submitted at another site for contest. I'm leaving for a night of music now - shred away but expect no discussion from me. I'll be otherwise involved until much later. ROUND ONE 1 . Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford 2 . Washington Redkskins - Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor 3 . Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil, OT, USC 4 . Cleveland Browns - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama 5 . Tampa Bay Bucs - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU 6 . St. Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State 7 . Jacksonville Jaguars - Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina 8 . Miami Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M 9 . Carolina Panthers - Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College 10 . Buffalo Bills - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford 11 . Kansas City Chiefs - David DeCastro, OG, Stanford 12 . Seattle Seahawks - Nick Perry, DE, USC 13 . Arizona Cardinals - Riley Reif, OT, Iowa 14 . Dallas Cowboys - Mark Barron, S, Alabama 15 . Philadelphia Eagles - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State 16 . New York Jets - Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama 17 . Cincinnati Bengals (via Oak) - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama 18 . San Diego Chargers - Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB, South Carolina 19 . Chicago Bears - Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina 20 . Tennessee Titans - Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois 21 . Cincinnati Bengals - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame 22 . Cleveland Browns - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor 23 . Detroit Lions - Cordy Glenn, OT, Georgia 24 . Pittsburgh Steelers - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis 25 . Denver Broncos - Michael Brockers, DT, LSU 26 . Houston Texans - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford 27 . New England Patriots (via NO) - Chandler Jones, DE/OLB, Syracuse 28 . Green Bay Packers - Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State 29 . Baltimore Ravens - Don’t'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama 30 . San Francisco 49ers - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech 31 . New England Patriots - Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame 32 . New York Giants - Doug Martin, RB, Boise State ROUND TWO 33 . St. Louis Rams - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State 34 . Indianapolis Colts - Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson 35 . Minnesota Vikings - Janoris Jenkins, CB, N. Alabama 36 . Tampa Bay Bucs - David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech 37 . Cleveland Browns - Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State 38 . Jacksonville Jaguars - Reuben Randle, WR, LSU 39 . St. Louis Rams - Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt 40 . Carolina Panthers - Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson 41 . Buffalo Bills - Mohammed Sanu, WR, Rutgers 42 . Miami Dolphins - Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall 43 . Seattle Seahawks - Zach Brown, LB, UNC 44 . Kansas City Chiefs - Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State 45 . Dallas Cowboys - Devon Still, DT, Penn State 46 . Philadelphia Eagles - Lavonte David, OLB, Nebraska 47 . New York Jets - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami 48 . New England Patriots (via OAK) - Bobbie Massie, OT, Ole Miss 49 . San Diego Chargers - Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticutt 50 . Chicago Bears - Alshon Jeffrey, WR, South Carolina 51 . Philadelphia Eagles (via Ari) - Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida 52 . Tennessee Titans - Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia 53 . Cincinatti Bengals - Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin 54 . Detroit Lions - Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt 55 . Atlanta Falcons - Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State 56 . Pittsburgh Steelers - Mitchell Schwartz, OT/OG, California 57 . Denver Broncos - Chris Polk, RB, Washington 58 . Houston Texans - Brian Quick, WR, App. State 59 . Green Bay Packers - Jerrell Worthy, DT, Michigan State 60 . Baltimore Ravens - Marvin Jones, WR, Cal 61 . San Francisco 49ers - Andre Branch, DE/OLB, Clemson 62 . New England Patriots - Ronnell Lewis, LB, Oklahoma 63 . New York Giants - Kelechi Osemele, OG, Iowa State
I hate NE 2 firsts AND OAklands 2nd rounder!! BET that Harrison Smith goes in the 1st. ;/ Sad face for players that I like goin to teams that I HATE.
That's a pretty good draft but unless they want Brandon Taylor looks like not many options for safeties after Smith goes. What would be your next move?
Cant remember his name, but theres a CB that has 4th or later rank and is versatile enuff to switch to the SS spot. I like this fix if we can get Barron or Smith. Ima have to figure out his name so I can not be surprised when he gets drafted high to another team.
I think so. But I think I found a few more Reach guys that could end up stars at SS. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/23/bolts-may-need-creativity-draft-safety/ Safeties EARLY Mark Barron, Alabama | 6-1, 213 Quarterbacked the Crimson Tide secondary in 38 starts. Multi-dimensional. Little debate to place as best safety prospect in draft. Harrison Smith, Notre Dame | 6-2, 213 Former captain started 47 of 51 games, including 15 at linebacker. Seven career interceptions all came as junior in 2010. Brandon Taylor, LSU | 5-11, 209 Developed from cornerback to free safety to strong safety. Effective inside box, stepping up in run support. LATER George Iloka, Boise State | 6-4, 225 Started all over secondary in four seasons but mostly at free safety. More a natural in pass coverage. Brandon Hardin, Oregon State | 6-3, 217 Broken shoulder wiped out senior campaign. Physical college cornerback can play strong safety. Intriguing middle-round talent with special teams experience. Antonio Allen, South Carolina | 6-2, 210 Played close to line of scrimmage at “spur” position, a hybrid of strong safety and cover-2 linebacker. Would take time to transition into traditional role.
Actualy was someone else, pretty sure was a player that lined up at the S spot and Corner. And already had reports of being a safety at NFL level and drafted for S over CB. BUT yea ill take McKenzie too in the right round. DeQuan Menzie, CB, Alabama Name: DeQuan Menzie 2010 JUCO College: Alabama Number: 24 Height: 5-11 Weight: 202 Position: CB Pos2: FS Class/Draft Year: Sr/2012 40 Low: 4.55 40 Time: 4.74 40 High: 4.82 Projected Round: 4-5 High: 3/CBorS Low: 6 Stock: Rated number 17 out of 175 CB's 138 / 1971 TOTAL
Thinkin it was Brandon Taylor.... Tho was for sure it was a guy who was listed as a CB... Name: Brandon Taylor(+) Coming off leg injury College: LSU Number: 18 Height: 5-11 Weight: 209 Position: SS Pos2: FS Class/Draft Year: Sr/2012 40 Low: 4.45 40 Time: 4.58 40 High: 4.67 Projected Round: 3-4 High: Late 2 Low: 4 Stock: Rated number 3 out of 143 SS's 105 / 1971 TOTAL
What about... Name: Sean Richardson College: Vanderbilt Number: 21 Height: 6-3 Weight: 216 Position: SS Pos2: FS Class/Draft Year: Sr/2012 40 Low: 4.40 40 Time: 4.52 40 High: 4.62 Projected Round: 7 High: 5 Low: PFA Stock: Rated number 8 out of 143 SS's 239 / 1971 TOTAL
no for injured players to snag this guy is who I think I was liking as a late SS prospect. Comes with already had broken shoulder, and a season without both hands from wearing casts. Name: Brandon Hardin(+) Coming off shoulder surgery College: Oregon State Number: 17 Height: 6-3 Weight: 217 Position: FS Pos2: SS/OLB/ST Class/Draft Year: Sr/2012 40 Low: 4.38 40 Time: 4.43 40 High: 4.57 Projected Round: 3-4 High: Late 2 Low: 4-5 Stock: Rated number 2 out of 71 FS's 99 / 1971 TOTAL No surprise I couldnt find the guy hes listed as FS. I think this the guy I liked tho cuz he is versatile and can play Corner both S spots and even maybe some LB.
Hell if we goin for a FS to move to SS, lets look at this guy too then. Name: George Iloka College: Boise State Number: 8 Height: 6-4 Weight: 225 Position: FS Pos2: SS/OLB Class/Draft Year: Sr/2012 40 Low: 4.52 40 Time: 4.66 40 High: 4.74 Projected Round: 2-3 High: Mid-late 2 Low: 4 Stock: Rated number 1 out of 71 FS's 81 / 1971 TOTAL 40 Yrd Dash: 4.66 20 Yrd Dash: 10 Yrd Dash: 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 20 Vertical Jump: 34 1/2 Broad Jump: 10'04" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.03 3-Cone Drill: 7.03 Tall and talented, Iloka enrolled at Boise State as a 17-year old true freshman and made an immediate impression to earn Freshman All American honors. Still, he had to overcome immaturity issues to gain respect of coaches and teammates and become team captain in 2011. He is an explosive athlete, but lacks quick change-of-direction that would make him special. Still, Iloka has the cover skills and length to match up well against tight ends and receivers with the closing burst and physical nature to show up in run support. A three-year starter, Iloka was a two-star receiver-safety recruit out of high school. He chose Boise State over TCU and UTEP, then played in every game in 2008 as a true freshman, including five starts. He had 62 tackles, five for a loss, one sack, six pass break-ups and a career-best four interceptions to earn Freshman All-American honors.
REALLY instinctive guy, flies around, real fluid, looks good in space. If we could transition him to SS I'd love it.
We will find a guy to plug into the DC at SS in the 2nd or the third. IMO we can even find a guy that will work in the 4th or later depending on how much his injuries affects his stock.
Wow... I cant imagine with how slow our LB corp was last season, with Spikes and LaBoy being out ran by the opposition as much as they were as a strength... But to each their own. Which ever way you want to see it is cool with me so long as it ends in the Chargers winning.
The guy I think we should convert is already on our roster, I'd like to see us move Gilchrist to SS and pick up Trumaine Johnson to ideally replace Jammer
well i believe spikes and laboy are the weak links of the LB core... donald butler is a stud, shaun phillips is a play maker, jarrett johnson is one of the best run defenders in the league, antawn barnes a great pass rush specialist, the team seems to be high on mouton and now melvin ingram.. idk i just feel like LB is starting to become a crowded position no?
I have a feeling people within the organization might be higher on Darrell Stuckey then a lot of us currently are
Also if you think about it our DB's were stellar in 2010 and horrific in 2011 a lot had to do with the lack at LB, When The Patriots got Jones and Hightower that was the exact reason analyst used for them "There DB's constantly were burned with the lack of a pass rush"
You would hope, but its undeniable they wanted Mark Barron, and had a lot of interest in Harrison Smith as well, which means they aren't as sold on Stuckey as they are with guys like Ty Green and Vaughn Martin.
It wasn't last season. LaBoy and Spikes played most snaps. Thus why I feel the LB corps have to be improved. in the 3/4 the LBs are the heart of the D. Slow 'veterans' like Spikes and LaBoy are a liability IMHO. We have some good LBs, but no one, not even Philips is close to the impact player I want to see prowling the middle of the D.
Smoke and mirrors my friend smoke and mirrors hahaha I was so excited when they got Gilchrist last year I thought finally they were addressing their lack at safety, I don't see Gilchrist to play cover on the outside I think he is a better zone cover and side to side player, we know the kid can tackle, I just hate to think we used a 2nd round pick on a career nickel