Proposed in the Man Law Thread under post #74. http://forums.bolttalk.net/showthread.php?p=212329#post212329
An error by the Cubs 2nd baseman and a flair single has runners on 1st and 2nd, but a SAC bunt by Marcus failed to move the runners, and Brian GIDP
The answer to the questions is no in almost all cases, but the question itself is useless because only the smallest fraction of people favor an outright ban, but lots of people are stupid and ignorant enough to equate regulating guns along the lines of drivers licenses or booze as tantamount to a ban. I used to hunt. I used a Browning .270 Winchester with a Belgian FN Mauser bolt. I could shoot 3" inch groups with it at 250 + meters. All I ever needed. Just what possible justification is there for so many AK's or AR's or H&K's. I had a Browning .22 for small game, a .20 gauge Dakin side by side and a .12 gauge Browning Double Auto for birds and ducks. I now longer own them, no longer hunt. Had a .22 Erma and a Navy .36 cap and ball. What in the world do people need Tech 9's and 10's, .41 Glocks and S&W's, Desert Eagles and Dirty Harry guns for? Home protection? A short barrelled .38 is way more than enough. Once had a reason to have one loaded in the house so I loaded the .20 gauge with #4 shot. More than enough and it wouldn't go through a wall. Background checks, safety courses, gun locks, gun registration and assault weapon restrictions are all resonable and valid measures. Red Dawn fantasies are just pure crap. I'm more worried about the security of voting machines as a threat to my freedom. I'm more worried about some ******* with a gun in a road rage snit than I am about intruders. I have a one inch diameter maple cane that I once used. I practised Kendo. Great way to stay in shape for soft ball. Bet I could put somebody down with that stick as fast as I could with a gun and if it was stolen nobody would be robbing liquor stores with it. More guns kill family, friends and neighbors than evil doers. In fact, more guns kill the owners than bad guys. Should we ban guns, yes or no? Give me a break.
I used to use a three by five card that said the snakes were lose and the dog had been bit and I was at the vets.
I was with ya til the very end...I'd hafta see stats, cuz that sounds more like an opinion than fact. As for assault rifles, etc, I tend to agree, tho the TEC-9's and AKs are in the hands of the bad guys. the SKS is an excellent hunting rifle, altho give me a Mannlicher for hunting, altho I don't. I PREFER a .45, to any other caliber handgun, and I'm very good with it.
FBI has the stats in their annual reports. Gang killings are a different animal, but you'd be amazed at how many people die of accidental or suicidal self inflicted wounds, let alone the garden variety crime of passion. Problem is most people are better in their minds than they are when they face fact. Even people who have seen combat don't react like they used to after a while in civie life. The vast majority of murdered people are victims of those they know. Most natural pointing handgun I ever fired was a medium bore PPK. The Mannlicher is beautiful piece of work. Loved the ones with the full stock. SKS costs a bloody forturne.
You kinda stepped off the path. Not only is a firearm for personal protection from thugs, but from a corrupt government as well. Red Dawn? Don't think so. Accountability? Absolutely. As for the "Military Issue" weapons we should be allowed to have? That can be worked out to a sensible level of ownership. Don't need any nutballs running around with a .50 mounted on his truck.:icon_eek: Off the top, SKS is definetly a reasonable rifle. Loved mine till I had to "turn it in" :icon_eek: . Whatever became of that gun? I forget.:icon_huh: As for a .38? You're gonna piss someone off if they happen to be armored and you don't hit 'em right. A .44 and up, if you get hit, you're not getting back up. Ever try to wield a shotgun in the woods? The pig will have you by the leg by the time you get your barrel out of the briar patch. Handgun is quicker.
Not sure what you mean by this. I've taught alotta folks, men and women, how to shoot a pistol, and I always start with a .45. Once they learn how to shoot the .45, they can shoot any caliber, but invariably they stay with the .45. I stay away from revolvers...jes a personal preference.
I prefer a medium bore with a higher velocity. The PPK formed a natural line along my arm much more seemlessly than a gun like a .45 or even a Browning or Beretta. The guy who taught me how to shoot put golf tees in the barrel and then had me puncture potatos that he tossed in the air in front of me. Then we gradually backed off on targets with soft loads. In a week I could snap shoot within the accurage range of the gun. Old dude was former moonshiner from Arkansas. Back in the day, he had a still in a played out gold mine off of Steele canyon road when it was way, way out in the boonies. The .38 is for protecting yourself in your home. Burglers and prowlers don't wear body armor. If your that worried, the round comes in some very hot loads. The .20 gauge with the number 4 shot works like a claymore. The shot does enormous damage, but won't hurt anyone on the other side of a wall even if it penetrates. As for the woods, have you any idea how fast even a pissed off bear will run from a marine air horn? I Garrontee all you'll see is rear end and feet. Works on jaguars who take a predatory interest in those taking pictures of frogs and butterflies in the rainforest as well.
Guess it's a matter of personal preference. But if y'all indulge an ol guy, the air horn takes me back to my SOG days. A friend of mine, very respected Recon Team Leader, took an air horn on a recon mission. His team made contact with enemy, and as he was reloading his CAR-15, his hand hit the air horn on his web belt. He hit the button and stayed on it for about 10-15 seconds. When the freon ran out, all was quiet, the bad guys had high-tailed outta the area, and the team was exfilled without further incident. Anahoo, that's my war story for today
