Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Ride The Lightning, Jan 23, 2007.
Jane Fonda can kiss my red white and blue ***...
This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons:
1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman who had a serious disagreement with Clinton. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September
1992...aftera serious disagreement with Clinton. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."
7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day after his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas. Although the book was seen by several persons, it disappeared.
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide He had ties to Whitewater.
11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee. There were no powder burns.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident. She told a friend that Clinton made advances.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation. Before his death, he claimed to have found a shattering story involving Clinton.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a shocking report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.
19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. The plane had been tampered with.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Again, tampering with the plane. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole. Apparently he was dead before the car hit the pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,1994 when his plane exploded. This happen two days after an argument with Clinton.
27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle apparently slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988. No one saw the accident and the bike was not damaged.
29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes."
34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds
38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
40 - Major General William Robertson
41 - Col. William Densberger
42 - Col. Robert Kelly
43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes
44 - Steve Willis
45 - Robert Williams
46 - Conway LeBleu
47 - Todd McKeehan All had said to friends that they had seen too much.
Still wanna vote for Hillary?!
Heck yeah she didn't do anything!!
Tax his land, Tax his wage, Tax
>his bed in which he lays.
>Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes is the rule.
>Tax his cow , Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat.
> Tax his ties,Tax his shirts, Tax his work, Tax his dirt.
> Tax his tobacco,Tax his drink, Tax him if he tries to think.
> Tax his booze,Tax his beers, If he cries, Tax his tears.
> Tax his bills, Tax his gas, Tax his notes, Tax his cash.
> Tax him good and let him know That after taxes, he has no dough.
> If he hollers,
>Tax him more, Tax him until he's good and sore.
> Tax his coffin, Tax his grave,
> Tax the sod in which he lays.
> Put these words upon his tomb,
> "Taxes drove me to my doom!"
> And when he's gone,
We won't relax,
> We'll still be after the inheritance TAX!!
> Accounts Receivable Tax
> Building Permit Tax
> CDL License Tax
> Cigarette Tax ,
>Corporate Income Tax
>Dog License Tax
> Federal Income Tax
> Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
> Fishing License Tax
> Food License Tax
> Fuel Permit Tax
> Gasoline Tax
> Hunting License Tax
> Inheritance Tax
> Inventory Tax
> IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax), IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax),
> Liquor Tax,
> Luxury Tax,
> Marriage License Tax,
> Medicare Tax,
> Property Tax,
> Real Estate Tax,
> Service charge taxes,
> Social Security Tax,
> Road Usage Tax (Truckers),
> Sales Taxes,
> Recreational Vehicle Tax,
> School Tax,
> State Income Tax,
> State Unemployment Tax (SUTA),
> Telephone Federal Excise Tax,
> Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax, Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax,
> Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax,
>Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax, Telephone State and Local Tax,
> Telephone Usage Charge Tax, Utility Tax,
>Vehicle License Registration Tax,
>Vehicle Sales Tax,
> Watercraft Registration Tax,
> Well Permit Tax,
> Workers Compensation Tax.
> COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and there
> was prosperity, absolutely no national debt, the largest middle
> class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
> What the h*** happened?????
Now I know why Monica came into the picture
Its looks like Monica's lucky to be alive...
Oh, you neocons and your conspiracy theories!!!:lol: :icon_rofl:
What I want to know is, what about the 3,000 + American soldiers (and God only knows how many Iraqis) George "Dubya" Bush and His Amazing Wrecking Crew have murdered? Where are the conspiracy theorists when you need 'em?:icon_shrug: :icon_huh:
Hmmmm. that's quite a task killing 3,000 people. So in war the president is a murderer, Clinton and all the other war time presidents will be upset to learn this.
May I remind y'all that Iraq is a war of the president's choosing. No one asked him to invade that country; he did it because he had a score to settle with Saddam and 9/11 gave him what he figured was a good excuse to go for it.
Damn, I hate getting into these political threads. Bush, Cheney et. al. piss me off enough to bite a rock and scare the daylights out of me, and yet the Hollywood lefties and the environmentalist whackos are just as bad in their own ways. There just doesn't seem to be any place in the political dialogue these days for a Libertarian with solid middle American values and a strong distrust of authority figures......
I'm outta here. I'd rather talk football anyway.
And how many Iraqi's died because of Saddam Hussein?
How many tortured?
Sumpmm y'all don't see everyday from the main stream media-
God Bless America,
Land that I love
Stand beside her,
And guide her,
Through the night
With the light from above,
From the mountains,
To the prairies,
To the ocean,
White with foam,
God bless America,
My home sweet home.
God bless America,
My home sweet home.
This is awesome Toby some people just see the bad and not the good :yes:
So why haven't we done more in Darfur & Sudan? Many people are dying in those countries at the hands of extremists, too.
Oh, wait - not enough oil to make it worthwhile?
Ah, the old oil dodge-that's why oil/gas prices are so hi all over the country, altho it's not too shabby here in San Antone, Tx, his home state. :icon_rofl:
I havent seen very many Americans get their heads cut off in these Countries, have you?
Her Highness is at it again:
Speaker Pursues Military Flights
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published February 1, 2007
The office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is pressing the Bush administration for routine access to military aircraft for domestic flights, such as trips back to her San Francisco district, according to sources familiar with the discussions.
The sources, who include those in Congress and in the administration, said the Democrat is seeking regular military flights not only for herself and her staff, but also for relatives and for other members of the California delegation. A knowledgeable source called the request "carte blanche for an aircraft any time."
"They are pressing the point of her succession and that the [Department of Defense] needs to play ball with the speaker's needs," one source said. The request originally went to the Pentagon, which then asked the White House to weigh in.
Mrs. Pelosi's request is not new for a speaker, who is second-in-line in presidential succession. A defense source said the speaker's regular access to a military plane began after the September 11, 2001, attacks. Rep. J. Dennis Hastert, Illinois Republican, who was speaker at the time, started using U.S. Air Force planes for domestic travel to and from his district for security reasons. A former Hastert aide said the congressman did not use military planes for political trips or regularly transport his family.
The defense source said Mr. Hastert requested a plane with good communications so he could conduct legislative business. The military flights increased to the point the speaker used a military plane for many, if not all, flights to his Illinois district, the former aide said.
Sources said Mrs. Pelosi's request goes beyond what Mr. Hastert received. The speaker's legal counsel is spearheading the talks.
An aide to Mrs. Pelosi, who asked not to be named, confirmed yesterday that discussions are ongoing with the administration. "It would be done for security reasons," said the aide, adding that the speaker has used military aircraft for at least one trip back to San Francisco.
I made this post in response to a previous post re: Iraqis dying at the hands of Saddam. Nobody mentioned anything about beheaded Americans.
Nice misdirection attempt, though. You must be a politician! :lol:
Nah, jes a proud American-
Here's someone more your speed-
War resister met with admiration, praise
Audience greets Watada with support as court-martial looms
OLYMPIA - Army Lt. Ehren Watada expects a far different reception when his court-martial begins next week for his refusal to serve in Iraq. For this one night, however, he was greeted as a hero.
About 470 people, nearly all strongly aligned with his stance that the war in Iraq is illegal, attended his speech Wednesday at South Puget Sound Community College.
The Fort Lewis officer again assailed the Bush administration for misleading the country to invade Iraq. He urged Americans to end their complacency and help bring an end to the war.
"This needless war has cost so much, but it has not been in vain if we are all willing to change," Watada said.
The audience interrupted him several times with standing ovations.
More about the coward if you care to read at: The Olympian.com
I think we both know our stances by now, so I'm signing off of this thread to visit some lighter subjects, like football.
Coward is a strong word. Of course, I disagree w/your opinion of Lt. Watada but it seems we disagree on most everything except being Bolts fans. So let's toast to the Bolts!! :icon_toast:
If refusing to deploy with your unit isn't an act of cowardice, I don't know what is. It's not like in the 60's when there was a draft. This COWARD joined the military voluntarily. It's one thing for civilians to protest policy; a soldier is SWORN to defend the Constitution of the United States of America, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and to obey the orders of superior officers appointed above him. This oath he took willingly.
Meanwhile, his unit deployed and served admirably and courageously. This ******* deserves the gallows.
Misdirection, I think not.
You made a statement how you did not like the war in Iraq. That went into a rant how things operated under Saddam, and how he and his cronies operated. You made a reference about other countries and how they operate.
And yet I dont hear of any Americans afraid to travel to those Contries. Why is that?
If your an American, and you get caught in Iraq by the "Wrong" people. They cut your head off. Saddam and his cronies are still at it.
I have not seen one beheading in the Contries you speak of.
A lot of people joined after 9-11, maybe for the wrong reasons.
They thought they were Patriots, but were afraid when the time came. And you are right, if you are ordered to go somewhere, you are not supposed to question why, you go, no questions asked. And as long as the president thinks we need to be over there, then I will support that. Here at work, we have had several of our coworkers siblings come home from over there because of medical reasons. And yet I still support our troops.
F that coward :2guns:
As a former Army officer, my opinion of him isn't very good.
I think if an enlisted man did this, then the punishment should be life in prison (at Leavenworth) - making big rocks into little rocks.
An officer than does a cowardly act like this absolutely deserves the death penalty. That piece of crap should be shot, hung and burned.
And that would be if he did this during a time when the draft was going on. Right now this is an all volunteer Military. Electric Chair with no water or lubricants, let him fry for a half hour before he dies!
These are the key words-no one put a gun to his head to join. Many join for different reasons, but everyone that enlists or joins knows, or should know, there's a possibility of going to war.
I'd dig a little deeper to learn if this turd inna punchbowl came from ROTC, which is what I suspect, given the type of Warrior unit he was in, but it's jes not worth my time.
At ease, Soldier. I was ROTC.
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