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Steve Williams at FS???

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    I know it may be a stretch, but any chance we put Steve Williams at FS, move Weddle to SS (I know he is an amazing FS) as he has bulked up over the last few years, go with Cox and Wright at CB amd Gilly at the Nickel? I am not sure that Brandon Taylor is going to be 100% ready come game 1, and not sure we have anyone else ready to step in at SS, so is it possible we do this to put the best players on the field in some capacity? Would have a lot of ball hawking skill on the field and with the front 7 we will field this year, could turn into a whole lot of turnovers.
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    I expect Stuckey to get a fair chance to start or to put Gilchrist at SS where he's played some in college. Williams I feel may be best to keep as a nickel
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    Pretty much this. Williams should translate better at the nickel. His size, and speed should keep him there in the NFL based on his measurables. He lacks the ideal size you want at either safety position which is usually around the 5'11" to 6'1" and 200 + lbs. He is 5'9" 181 lbs.
    Now granted he makes up for that with a 40 inch vert but standing and jumping is far different than going up against guys you are giving 30 -40 lbs to and are 6'5" tall fighting for a ball.
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    I understand his size lends itself better to Nickel, but Arizona is going to play Mathieu at FS and he is similar size\speed to Williams. Of course they need someone really fast to cover the guys Cason forgets too, so maybe a different issue there, but finding ways to get ball hawks in the lineup is always good.
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    That is the huge difference to be honest between the two players. And while they say he will be at FS, I think they will find ways to line him up in many spots to get him as close as possible to the play. And as much of a huge douche Mathieu is, his ball skills, and ability to make plays is far better than Steve Williams.
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    To different animals, size speed have nothing to do with it, The Cardinals have 2 or 3 starting CB's (yes Cason included) Mathieu if you look back at his tapes is all over who ever had the ball, basically climbing all over the player just to take him down. Also the honey badger has played the safety position. I think Williams will be @ the level of Captain Munnerlyn.

    You normally want your safety's to be big strong players who can cover WR's, TE's and even RB's. very rarely do you see a successful 5' 8" 180lb saftey.

    Mathieu is a hybrid type player, they'll line him up all over the place just to make plays.
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    lol, what? I'm confused?
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    I meant in the first part, just because AZ is putting a 5' 8" 180 lb player at FS doesn't mean everyone needs to do it
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    lol, ok I got ya. I was reading that going wtf? Hahaha. I said the same thing pretty much in the intial response I put about size.
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    I getcha, just think we could use as many playmakers on the field as we can and Williams seems to be much better than any SS we have on the roster at this point in time. Wouldn't fit anywhere else other than Nickel.
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    theres a good solid 0.01% chance steve williams gets moved to safety
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    Bob Sanders.. just saying..
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    are you saying his body won't hold up in the NFL at that size and will continue to be plagued by injuries cutting his career short?
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    For a 5th round pick? I would take 3 amazing Bob Sanders years for that yep!
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    bob sanders was like 210 lbs....
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    We can feed the kid some Carne Asada burritos. You cant walk 10 feet in SD without walking past a Mexican joint with good Carne!
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    If anything happens Gilchrist will likely be moved to safety to provide some depth with Wright at #2 and Williams at nickel. Gilchrist has some experience at safety and is more comfortable at the position, he could possibly be slotted at strong safety in the short term.
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    If he puts on 30 lbs, it will be 30 lbs of fat, and his 40 time will drop to a 5.6
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    Left Tackle then?
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    Size doesn't matter in the NFL, at some positions.

    Bob Sanders was just an example. It's not his size that got him injured so much. He was just simply unlucky. He had nagging foot and knee injuries in college as well. And he put together 2 outstanding NFL seasons; in 2007, he won DPOY and a Super Bowl.

    So it's not like his size had to due with any of his injuries. He suffered a majority of the same injuries in college and the NFL, just to an extent, where there was too much mileage on those injured body parts.
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    He does, but he is only a FS, and that's Eric Weddle's position. Gilchrist has the ball skills for FS, but as a SS, I don't know. He would need to become a better tackler.
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    I feel like we kind of play our safeties as interchangeable positions, at least that's what I remember hearing from the coaching staff in an interview similar to how both mlb spots in the 3-4 they consider to be interchangeable as well... either way i agree i dont think gilchrist has the safety build to come up in the run game unless our front 7 is so dominant that they keep him clean and he could jus be used as another coverage safety.. what a luxury that would be :inlove:
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    The comparison to Mathieu isn't an accurate one. While both may be "playmakers," Mathieu's tackling technique is much more developed at this point than Williams' is. Greater likelihood is Gilchrist gets shifted back there as he actually has past experience playing in a 2-high safety set while at Clemson.
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    Yah, not the same player. But I am not sold on our SS position right now. Not sure Gilly is enough of a hitter to play SS, not sure Brandon Taylor is going to be healthy enough to start game 1, haven't signed Lynch back, so we are unsettled there. I could see moving Weddle over to SS because I believe he could play the position well, let Williams play FS and hold down the deep coverage. I would rather have him play Nickel and get a true SS in to start, just spit balling ways to get our best ball hawks on the field together.
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    Well, we could end up seeing a safety combination of Weddle and Jammer. Q certainly knows how to hit, and has the size too.
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    Can also get physical at LOS in the nickel. Wouldn't want him covering a guy like Welker though. But, just saying, he could play a Woodson role here in SD, except a lot cheaper.

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