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Teams pursuing Whitehurst?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by matilack, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    We tendered him with a 3rd, and there has been a lot of talk on NFL network about 4 or 5 teams that have shown serious inteterest in the past and the Chargers have turned down trade offers.

    Jason La Canfora on NFL network says he wouldn't be surprised if someone gave up a 3rd round pick to get him, possibly the Bills or 49rs.
     
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    I'll believe it when i see it.
     
  4. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    Me too, but I'd love to see it.:tup: Whitehurst is as much of a wasted draft pick as we've ever had, and he hasn't shown a lick of potential in pre-season games.
     
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    You must have not been at the Seattle game in the 2006 preseason that I was at where Charlie had some really good plays.

    Granted, that was 4 years ago, but still.

    Any rate, it's kind of hard for him to prove anything when he's sitting behind Rivers and Volek. The fact that he's still drawing interest as a 3rd string says something.

    We could have just as easily wasted that draft pick on some garbage player who would amount to nothing, but instead we had a decent 3rd string.

    Truth be told, if any team is down to their 3rd string QB they're in a world of pain, but nevertheless I wouldn't call it a complete waste of a draft pick if he's a 3rd string QB that shows enough potential to draw interest for a 3rd round pick.
     
  6. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    No I kind of phased that one game out after the other 3 pre-seasons where he SUCKED.:lol:

    I'd be happy to take the 3rd rounder for him, and spend a 6th rounder on a guy like John Skelton who reminds me of Joe Flacco.
     
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    To be fair, I haven't watched preseason games since then. :lol:
     
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    The Jaguars.
     
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    A third string QB is someone, who can stay calm, knowing he only can play assuming injuries. It's good to have Whitehurst knowing our system so well. A one year or rookie QB wants to have playing time. So if we get a 3rd or 4th round pick for
    Charlie or if he stays with the Chargers. Both will be good.
     
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    I would gladly give him up for a 3rd. :tup:
    I din't think that it will happen though.
     
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    I seriously doubt a 3rd round tender would be gotten for Charlie.

    I mean seriously we just traded a former pro-bowl CB in Cromartie for a 3rd round tender. The thought of a guy who has taken a handful of snaps at the pro level after 4 years, doesn't really add up to getting a 3rd rounder for him.

    Not saying some desperate team wouldn't just saying it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
     
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    Charlie carries a mean clipboard. Let's face it if he ever gets into a game it's too soon. If someone is dumb enough to give a a draft pick... take it.
     
  13. matilack

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    Its a simple fact that QB is a higher value than a CB.:yes:

    If someone thinks he can be the Matt Cassell to Rivers I think a 3rd is more than fair.
     
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    I'm inclined to agree, not sure there's enough to justify any team acquiring him unless they really just loved what they saw in the very limited playing time he's had. Maybe someone thinks he's a matt cassell but don't forget no one would've traded anything for matt cassell until he was forced to start for a year after brady went down.
     
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    I think a better comparison would be Jake Delhomme and Matt Schaub.

    What did they get in trades? (Neither saw much play time but were still coveted by their new teams)
     
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    Would be happy to get back a 3rd round pick for him, exactly what we used to get him.
     
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    I would be happy to get anything for him. IMO, a 3rd string QB is nothing more than a practice squad player. If a team gets down to their 3rd string QB, their season is over. Keeping a roster spot for a QB seems like a waste if you can just keep a QB on the practice squad to run the scout offense.
     
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    I'd take the 3rd & use the roster spot to keep an extra DL or OL.

    Legedu could be our emergency QB.
     
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    Both of which were 2nd stringers not 3rd......And not sitting there carrying a clipboard sitting behind Billy Volek.....

    A team would be picking up Charlie to get him as a back up not a starter. If you were in the front office would you give up a 3rd round pick for a back up QB?
     
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    Agreed QB is a higher value, but somehow that makes this arguement more intriguing......

    Let's see Matt Cassell was a 2nd STRING QB not a 3rd......Not to mention that he played an entire season on a team with a loaded offense and had a good year. Thus garnering the interest to be a starter.

    Charlie Whitehurst has seen little to no action at all, and some is a 3rd STRING QB sitting behind Billy Volek. Billy Volek probably wouldn't get a 3rd round tender, which means it's likely that Whitehurst wouldn't either.
     
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    The problem is Volek turns 34 in April, Whitehurst is 27. We've been developing him behind Rivers for 3 or 4 years now and I think AJ is going to count on him a little more when Volek either retires or we can't renew his contract.

    I don't see AJ settling for anything less than a 3rd.
     
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    My guess is if he does that, Charlie Whitehurst will be a back up QB for the rest of his career.....

    Unless you know...Somehow he finds his way on to the field and all.
     
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    :unsure: Don't even joke. :icon_tease:
     
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    What difference does it really make, though?

    Both Volek and Whitehurst are carrying clipboards on Sundays.

    I guess you can point out that Volek played a little in garbage time in week 17, but whatever.

    Whitehurst is younger than Volek. I'm not trying to suggest Charlie should command a third rounder (I was a bit surprised to even read that) but I would guess he would be worth more than a 34 yr old career back up in Volek simply because of his age.
     
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    I was surprised too:icon_eek:, but I wouldn't have made the post if I hadn't heard the rumor multiple times. And La Canfora from NFL.com says at least 4 teams have mentioned Whitehurst.
     
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    I think that it is time to move him to #2 or trade him (if we can). He has had enough time riding the pine and learning the system. If he is not developing then bring in someone else.
     
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    If he's the #2 he's still riding the pine.
     
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    Yes but has he progressed enough to make him #2? :icon_shrug:
    If so then I would say cut Volek and get another young QB in here to start learning the system.
     
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    Yes you are correct both of which are carrying clipboards on Sunday, however, in junk one gets playing time and one doesn't.

    Also if you look at it from the vantage point of "Career Backups" Volek has been a starter, has taken snaps in the playoffs. If you are going to give up a 3rd rounder it's not going to be for a 27 year old back up who is 3rd string and hasn't taken regular season snaps in 4 years is all im saying.

    I am willing to bet if we moved Whitehurst it would be for no more than a 5th if we were lucky.
     
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    If the Bills go after him, it'll be because Buddy Nix liked him, he's probably the one who wanted him while in SD since Whitehurst went to Clemson and Nix was the one that had ties to the South (remember all the people giving him credit for Cromartie).

    I'd be surprised if we got a 3rd for him, but I don't see AJ settling for less either.
     

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