Wishful thinking (I mean the part about Al Davis staying alive for 38-40 more years!!!) :lol: :icon_tease:
this is just to funny...... Ok the raiturds have no one on their team as far as players go that has even been to a super bowl now that warren sapp has retired, oh and the last one he was in was at jack murphy stadium when he payed for the bucs against the raiturds and beat them soundly, almost effortlessly. yah we hope darth sidious lives to be 106....... He's more machine than man now , evil and twisted....
Off the top of my head I think the Charless dont have a player that has been to a super bowl either. So what was your point in writing that? BTW we did get spanked in the the Bucs...it was kinda like the murdering that took place during Super Bowl XXIX!!!
The only way Norv ever ends up with a team like the one he inherited in Oakland is if we are stupid enough to get rid of AJ Smith and then hire Al the Gal as our GM. If that happens then yes your prediction will come true.:icon_rofl:
Right, and he took them to the playoffs at least one year there. What has Al and the Raiders done in say the last 7 years? He did the best he could with an owner that didn't know crap about the NFL and made very ****** moves that cost that team greatly. Sound familiar yet?
Raidertilldeath, you may be right about many things you say about Norv but here's is where you keep missing... WE ARE NOT THE RAIDERS!!! Your team sucked then as they do now. Vince Lombardi couldn't have got your Raiders winning!!! Try looking at the talent level of both teams instead. You keep raving about Russel and McFadden but right now, they are unproven. Those two are the only hope you have to reach 4-12 this season. I say "if Russel and McFadden ever become a NFL success, it won't be with the Raiders. Your team is the Career Killing franchise and that's pure fact!!!" :yes:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2008/07/23/SPN911TS4G.DTL Raiders told RB Jordan he's not welcome at training camp Nancy Gay, Chronicle Staff Writer Thursday, July 24, 2008 (07-23) 18:36 PDT -- The agent for Raiders running back LaMont Jordan confirmed his client was told not to report to the team's opening day of training camp in Napa, even though the seven-year veteran has two years remaining on his contact. According to the current collective bargaining agreement, an NFL player under contract must be allowed to report and participate in all offseason and training camp meetings and workouts. Alvin Keels, who represents the running back, said he told the Raiders on Wednesday they have just more than 24 hours to release his client, trade him or permit him to report as scheduled. The team's first official workout is at 3 p.m today. On Friday, the Raiders are scheduled to hold two practice sessions, 9-11 a.m. and 7-9 p.m. "We're going to give them until (today) so hopefully we'll have a resolution between now and then. If not, then we'll have to force their hand and he'll report on Friday and practice," said Keels, reiterating that the Raiders cannot lock out Jordan as long as he remains on their roster. In 2006, Steve McNair won a grievance against the Tennessee Titans after they refused to allow him to report to their facility The Titans eventually traded McNair to the Ravens. "(The Raiders) are trying to play it their own way. We're going to try to handle this in a civilized manner," Keels said. "If we have any problems, if they don't trade him or release him by (today), then we'll report to camp Friday morning and we will file a grievance." Raiders coach Lane Kiffin was not made available for comment. He is scheduled to meet with the media at noon today. At this point, Keels said it doesn't appear any trade talks are in the works. That's because Jordan's five-year contract, signed in 2005 when he was considered the top free-agent running back on the market, is so heavily backloaded that no team is willing to take on its current 2008 cap number of $6,106,240, with a base salary of $4.7 million. Jordan's 2009 cap number is $6.4 million. Any team that deals for Jordan would want to renegotiate that contract before agreeing to surrender a draft pick or picks for a player who gained a combined 1,588 yards (1,025 rushing, 563 receiving) and had 11 touchdowns in '05. So far, Keels has not been party to any negotiations with other teams. "I haven't been given a heads-up that anyone is interested in a trade," Keels said. Jordan was given permission to shop himself to other teams in the offseason and visited the Lions earlier this month. Detroit did not pursue trade talks. The Saints are said to be interested in acquiring Jordan - New Orleans offensive coordinator Doug Marrone worked with him when both were with the New York Jets. Saints coach Sean Payton also wants Jordan on board, but the Saints have no interest in trading for him. The Raiders, meanwhile, know that several teams, the Saints among them, would be quick to snatch Jordan if he were granted his release. And if Jordan were to put up another 1,000-yard rushing season after he was let go with no compensation, it would be an embarrassment to the franchise, despite the addition of first-round pick Darren McFadden to an already loaded backfield. Jordan, 29, lost his starting job last season in Week 8 to Justin Fargas despite gaining 424 yards in his first four games before sustaining a back injury at Miami on Sept. 30. Since then, Jordan has been on the outs with Raiders' coaches and management because of a history of nagging injuries and his outspoken attitude. He asked for his release in late November when the Raiders were considering activating rookie Michael Bush from the physically unable to perform list. Instead, the Raiders kept Bush on the shelf, and Jordan was benched. Now Jordan is locked in another contentious stalemate with the Raiders, one that figures to come to a head within the next 48 hours. "If he isn't released or traded, he'll be there on Friday," Keels said, "and they're going to have to let him on the field. Either that, or they'll have to have the police escort him off the field."
First if you are stupid enough to believe this than you must be full of crap! Let me knock some of that stagnant crap loose in your brain so you can remember!!!! The Raiders were favored to win that Super Bowl; the Bucs were not even given a fat chance to even compete on the same field! During all that pregame B.S. it was Raider this, and Raider That, NO ONE was mentioning the Bucs. The Chargers were 17 and 1/2 point underdogs, and they lived up to that. It was 49er this and 49er that. There was no surprises that day. Now what was the score between those 2 games? And if your stupid crap in your brain can work with numbers that big, you will notice that the point spread in your blow out was even worse! And what was even better, your crapass Team wasn’t even smart enough to change the offense, they were running plays that Gruden installed. The Bucs were calling the plays as those Shitass Raiders crawled up to the line and attempted to run, but every single time they were spanked like the 2 bit whores they were!
With that said, let's not forget how the Ravens defense (best ever IMO) wasn't suppose to stand a snowball's chance in Hell against the Raiders (so-called) high powered offense in the 2000 AFC Championship!!!! The ONLY reason it wasn't a shut out is because of Dilfer's intercepted pass at their own 20 yard line. YET... They had to settle for a field goal!!! :lol:
and who can forget the "TUCK RULE" Game! Freaking chest thumping bandwagon Raider fans they THINK they can come in here and start their crap! Wanna get a pool going, and we can bet at what point during the Charger Raider during this year’s game the fans start to leave in mass exodus again, and the seagulls start attacking the seats again? They need to tell their women to start taking a shower or something! It must be hell to be a Raiders fan right now; even the Phoenix Cardinals are getting better press these days. And I often wonder what its like to have to root for a team where the owner does not even allow the head coach to attend any of the personnel meetings.
They would be the reason there is a salary cap! So to answer your question, no there was no salary cap at that time.
BOTTOM LINE... Past IS the Past!!! Sure, Raiders have some days to be proud of. We do too but I will agree that we don't have anything to show for it. Are you an Oakland Raider or a LA raider? In that case, you have either two titles or one. Yeah, yeah... that's one or two more than us but those trophies don't serve any purpose today. Clinch your one or two trophies as hard as you can but it won't help your team win. With that said... I've been a "San Diego Charger" since the day I first watched NFL and I'm looking forward to a title or two or three coming here to San Diego!!!! Out With The Old and In With The New!!!
Hello Clueless in Oakland! Your team is nothing more than a bunch of over paid, over hyped, over aged under achievers! What did it feel like when you waited all off season, you had the Chargers on Monday Night Football, in your house, it was Art Shells coming out game, what did it feel like to watch that game? Have you even scored a point yet? Have you ever thought about crying after a really tough loss? I know you wanted to after New England spanked you and robbed you, it was a fumble, but you know what, pay back is a biatch! And to watch the whining and crying after that one, I walked around with a woody for 5 months!
Hardly. It is you who keeps squeezing that one or two Super Bowl logic (depending if you're an Oakland Raider or a LA Raider) as hard as you can in hopes for some credibility. We get it! Either way, you have at least one Super Bowl title. BUT (as we keep saying) that won't help you on the field today. I don't see Dolphins fans grasping onto their "Perfect Season" to justify their team's performance today!!! :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious:
BINGO!!!!! How is all that Trophy polish doing for you TODAY Raider Fan. It is doing you nothing because you guys have probably rubbed it out years ago. Those trophy speak of YESTERDAY. Not of TODAY. Let us speak of the 21st century because the 20th century was again in YESTERDAY.
They all say that because they are not smart enough to come up with something that is original. Everyone of those Csuckers say the same exact thing! They are dumb and they are stupid, and all they have are those 3 Lombardi's. But after being told that for the 3,000,000,000,000,000th time after somewhere around 1,500,000,000,000 that saying has lost its luster! Now those pile of rust buckets are nothing more than a battery operated vibrating sex toys for those SOB'S!
Exactly. I've been asking turd fans like "faidertildeath" those same questions FOR YEARS. They still don't have an answer. :lol:
I work with raiturd fans, and whenever we get into an argument about the upcoming season all they ever say is some reiteration of the Lombardi argument, and then smile a smug little smile like it ends the argument or something. One of the guys that I constantly argue with is 20 years old and pulls the same argument. Come to think of it, he's actually ignored by the other raiturd fans, so I guess they're smarter than the average delusional turd.
well remind that youngen that those rust buckets are older than him and that he is taking credit for something his great grandpappy won! and then you can break off into a skit where you can say something like "I would love to talk football with you, but with you that would take a whole 3 Seconds" then walk off
Ask them this... To win an argument they play the Lombardi card. If it was all about the past lombari's, than why are they bummed out every freakin Sunday after a loss. On the west coast, at about 5 pm every Sunday, fans are walking around pissed as hell or happy as can be. Not because their team won or lost the Superbowl 27 years ago, it's because their team won or lost on "THAT" Sunday. There isn't a Lombardi trophy around that can cure a mid season Sunday loss. All die hards are the same. If your team loses on Sunday your damn day is ruined to dog crap. The past don't mean **** until Monday when you try to justify your current ****** team. When the turds got shalllacked by Tampa some years ago in the SB, there wasn't one of them that walked away happy claiming, well at least we won Super Bowls XI, XV and XVIII. I say again, Past Superbowl victories only give you an out when your current team lost or currently sucks... Easy for me to say... Unless I count the SD Soccers and my LL 1st Half Championship back in the day, I have seen zero championships in my lifetime...
