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Tomlinson thinks Norv Turner, A.J. Smith have failed Philip Rivers

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by MasterOfPuppets, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. Ikeman83

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    It depends on why he's being abused. If he's being abused because he doesn't have the leg drive to overpower defenders, then that's somewhat different from being abused because you lack explosive power to pancake people, which is also different from lacking the agility to help chip one defender before moving on to block another defender at the next level of the defense.

    Our guys simply do a poor job of moving the line of scrimmage forward, because they can't overpower anyone. In a ZB scheme, you don't have to physically dominate anyone on the other team, you just have to be able to stand in their way and not be moved yourself.

    I don't think anyone is saying that either of these schemes would make our linemen elite, however, a ZB scheme would play to their (limited) strengths, whereas a power scheme requires an ability which for our linemen is their greatest weakness.
     
  2. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Pretty much.

    I mean look, I don't expect much from Norv, Hunter, and Sullivan - because to this point they've given me very little reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. I will admit I was pleasantly surprised to see more of a zone-emphasis being used against the Chiefs, but until I see a trend of it I'm willing to bet it's more happenstance than habit. Doesn't change the fact that every team in the league uses zone-blocking concepts in some degree; there isn't a pure straight-up man-blocking scheme left in the league because fullbacks have largely been phased out, and defensive schemes such as the Wide-9 make mincemeat of man-blocking lines that don't have elite athletes on them.

    Implementing a scheme that focuses more on using angles, strategy, and physics (i.e. principles of leverage) to stonewall defenders and turn them to open holes for the RB plays to the strengths and longevity of guys like Hardwick and Molk (both former wrestlers who already understand many of these concepts anyway) and Green (who has the ideal build for it: low, squatty, and gorilla-armed; there were many internet pundits/scouts that thought that Green's only true fit as a prospect was in a zone scheme). Clary's dumb as a post, I don't expect him to grasp any scheme that requires intelligence and dedication. Harris there may yet be hope for, but he needs technique work something fierce (like to stop trying to play handsies with defenders - this isn't the WWF and you're not trying to engage the guy in a test of strength).
     
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    I never complained about Sproles. The problem with AJ was after the intial cheap contract he had Sproles under he wouldn't give him a second one, instead he just looked short term (as he did with so many other things) and kept tagging him. And after that he just let him go.
     
  4. The LBC

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    Um... Sproles was offered two different contracts (one prior to being tagged the first time and one after that and before the second tagging). The problem was that Sproles and his agent were angling for top return-specialist money (coincidentally right after Devin Hester had just gotten the richest contract, by a wide margin, a returner had ever gotten) and the team wasn't willing to offer that up (particularly since Sproles was demonstrating first hand that - in the system the team was presently running - he wasn't a capable first option as a runner.

    But hey... if revisionist history fits your argument, why bother accounting for troublesome things like actual facts, right?
     
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