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2nd best QB in Chargers history

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by HughC, Jul 4, 2008.

  1. HughC

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    It is the deadest part of the calendar for a football fan, so here's an attempt to keep the Bolts in our minds.

    Who is the greatest QB in Chargers history?

    (After Dan Fouts, of course.)



    Jack Kemp, 1960-1962 - disregard the years with the Bills
    Jon Hadl, 1962-1972 - big stats but lesser competition
    Dan Fouts, 1973-1987 - for comparison purposes
    Stan Humphries, 1992-1997 - so close, but . . .
    Drew Brees, 2001-2005 - only a few years here
    Philip Rivers, 2004-2008 - is last year enough?


    What do you think?
     
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  2. HughC

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    And in case you were wondering who was left off the list above, here you go:

    Bobby Clatterbuck, 1960 (a 27th round draft pick from the 50's!)
    Bob Laraba, 1960 - 1961 (good trivia question, a LB and QB!)
    Hunter Enis, 1961 (any relation to that Bears bust at RB from Penn State?)
    Valdemar Keckin, 1962 (I think this is not a real person, he is an internet myth)
    Dick Wood, 1962 (I swear, I did not make this up, there really was a Dick Wood)
    Tobin Rote, 1963 - 1964 (came through with an All-Pro season at age 35)
    Don Breaux, 1965 (more trivia: can you name another Charger alumni of McNeese State? Can you name another NFL player from McNeese State?!)
    Steve Tensi, 1965 - 1966 (I doubt that 99.999% of the fans from Florida State recognize this name)
    Kay Stephenson, 1967 (went on to coach the Bills, losing 18 of his last 20 games)
    Jon Brittenum, 1968 (tells his grandkids all about that one TD pass, but nobody believes him)
    Marty Domres, 1969 - 1971 (top ten draft pick started 6 games for the Bolts, with 5 TD and 17 INT - a precursor of things to come three decades later?)
    Wayne Clark, 1970 - 1973 (I didn't make this up: NFL career stats - 5 starts, 0 TD, 14 INT)
    Johnny Unitas, 1973 (3 TD, 7 INT, 14 sacks and a QB rating of 40 was no way for this all time great to finish his career)
    Jesse Freitas, 1974 - 1975 (sacked 31 times in just seven starts)
    Bobby Douglass, 1975 (only played 3 games with the Bolts; better known for his legs than his arm)
    Clint Longley, 1976 (Cowboy trivia for that huge comeback coming off the bench for Staubach; quickly became Cowboy trivial when he got in a fight with Staubach)
    James Harris, 1977 - 1979 (yet another veteran QB the Bolts bring in that ends his career here)
    Bill Munson, 1977 (movie Kingpin didn't use his name for Woody Harrelson's character, did it?)
    Cliff Olander, 1977 - 1979 (not often that you find a QB with a career INT % in double digits)
    Ed Luther, 1980 - 1984 (waited 3 years, seized opportunity to start, and threw 7 TD and 17 INT)
    Bruce Mathison, 1983 - 1984 (perhaps the most trivial Bolt QB of all time, completing 3 of 5 passes over his career)
    Mark Herrmann, 1985 - 1987 (how did this guy manage to stay in the NFL for 11 years?)
    Tom Flick, 1986 (a QB rating under 30 is not good)
    Rick Neuheisel, 1987 (yep, that college coach that leaves programs in shambles went 40/59 as Fouts backup)
    Mike Kelley, 1987 (I'll admit, I have no idea who this guy was)
    Mark Malone, 1988 (another former starter finds a career ending home here)
    Babe Laufenberg, 1988 (he only threw for 1057 yards in his entire NFL career?!)
    Mark Vlasic, 1987 - 1990 (and he can tell his grandchildren about that one playoff TD pass)
    Jim McMahon, 1989 (got to wonder how his career would have been with modern surgery after the cheap shot that ruined his shoulder)
    Billy Joe Tolliver, 1989 - 1990 (2nd round pick became an NFL journeyman)
    David Archer, 1989 (another backup I don't remember)
    John Friesz, 1990 - 1993 (turned one year as a starter in to a ten year NFL career)
    Bob Gagliano, 1991 - 1992 (Was Mrs. Gag-liano an adult film star?)
    Gale Gilbert, 1994 - 1995 ("Gale Gilbert", the name just never gave me much confidence)
    Sean Salisbury, 1996 (no truth to the rumors that cell phone pictures ended his NFL career here)
    Craig Whelihan, 1997 - 1998 (twice as many INT as TD is not good)
    Jim Everett, 1997 (don't you wish that he would have really pounded Jim Rome's face that day?)
    Todd Philcox, 1997 (my gawd, how many NFL quarterback's careers ended here?!)
    Ryan #*&%, 1998 - 2000
    Jim Harbaugh, 1999 - 2000 (answer is, yes, more NFL QB careers die here)
    Erik Kramer, 1999 (yep, the former Lion too)
    Moses Moreno, 1999 - 2000 (another QB with one NFL TD to tell the grandkids about)
    Doug Flutie, 2001 - 2003 (may be the best of this group due to the fantastic 2001 season)
    Billy Volek, 2006 - 2007 (helluva playoff backup)






    Did I miss anybody?




    ps - trivia answer - T Reggie Nelson was the other McNeese State alumni, here in 1999 - 2000. Other NFL players from McNeese State include Dolphins RB Cecil Collins, Saints FB Buford Jordan, and Cardinals S Leonard Smith.
     
  3. BOLTS4LIFE

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    I guess Leaf wasn't a complete loss after all!!! :lol:


    Fouts was deffinetly the most talented QB we've had.
    Humphries got us to our only Super Bowl so far.
    Brees revived us after all those horrible seasons.


    GO RIVERS!!!
     
  4. Buck Melanoma

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    second to Fouts - Stan.

    Next in line to claim the throne - Rivers.
     
  5. vegasboy

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    Hopefully in 5-10 years Dan Fouts will be the 2nd best QB in Charger history and that is no disrespect to Fouts.

    If Rivers continues to develop the way he has, he should take the next step up and become an elite QB like Fouts.

    If his knee is sound, the sky is the limit for Philip. :abq2:
     
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  6. AnteaterCharger

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    #2 has got to be Stan Humphries
     
  7. Buck Melanoma

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    ^^^^ :yes: :tup:
     
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    I remember David Archer. He was a Falcon too if I recall around the time (or shortly after) they had the english kicker, **** Luckhurst.

    Right now 2nd best ever must be Stan but I expect Mr Rivers will overtake him this year and perhaps even surpass Fouts.
     
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    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Tobin Rote, the QB of the AFL champion Chargers
    Dan Fouts, should have been a superbowl QB, but somehow ticked off mother nature.
     
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    nobody on the list. Fouts put in 14 years. Until someone else puts in that amount of work, I will not disrespect the man. Rivers has the potential to be number 2....but not yet.
     
  11. chargerlipz

    chargerlipz Leading the league in nose hairs.

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    Gale Gibert has to be pretty close, but I think I would give it to PHILIP RIVERS!!! HA HAAAAA!!!

    Nah, it would be Stan in my book.
     
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  12. BOLTS4LIFE

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    :bolt: :yes:
     
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    Stan the Man or Tobin Rote
     
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    Stan Humphries, definitely. But Rivers may one day surpass even Fouts if he keeps going and stays healthy.
     
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    I have to go with Hadl. He and Alworth were magic.
     
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    stan humpries
     
  17. tboltzcali

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    It depends on whether you mean 2nd best in stats or time served.
     
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    Drew Brees
     
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    Who can ever forget

    Cliff Olander


    dude was nails!


    :lol:
     
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    agree here,

    Stan is the man until Rivers replaces him at #2

    :tup:
     
  21. Chargers-Superhero

    Chargers-Superhero Just win the Damn SB !!!

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    At this point, you have to go with Stan the Man, but Rivers will quickly overtake this honor. I don't think anyone will ever overtake Fouts, even if PR wins us a SB. Now if PR wins us 2, then that's a different story, but you would really have to evaluate PR to Fouts after PR has played 15 years. After all Fouts is a Hall Of Famer, and one of the all time greats.
     

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