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An example of the real value of the Scouting Combine

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    An example of the real value of the Underwear Olympics

    Posted by Mike Florio on February 28, 2010 7:53 PM ET

    As the Winter Olympics conclude and the Underwear Olympics a/k/a the Scouting Combine continues, a league source has shared with us some anecdotal information regarding the correlation between the perceived performance in drills and on-field football performance.

    The source says that, several years back, he had video of a running back doing a workout that included various drills -- running, cutting, receiving, etc. The tape contained no markings on the field or the T-shirt that could be used to identify the player.

    So the source had various scouts and personnel types review the tape and evaluate the player, without telling them that the player already was in the league.

    The response was lukewarm. "He's OK," one guy said. "Nothing special," said another.

    Not only was the player already in the league, but he was playing at a Pro Bowl level.

    The point is that scouts often are influenced by the names on the shirt, and that grades applied to players could be much different if the drills were conducted blindly.

    That's why some personnel types joke that grades given to some players are written in pencil, and that grades in a player's files can mysteriously change at various stages of his NFL career.
     
  2. LT-Express

    LT-Express Bolttalk.com Janitor since 06' Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Thank god there is someone else out there that doesn't think that combine 40 times, bench press reps, cone drills, and shuttles are NOT what makes a player.
     
  3. foober

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    its part of the equation. The combine originally was created to do medical tests on players to check out their injurys. Secretly that still is its major use. The underwear exercises are just for show for the public.
     
  4. LT-Express

    LT-Express Bolttalk.com Janitor since 06' Staff Member Super Moderator

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    yes I know what the scouting combine is used for, but most draftniks put about 60-70% of a players stock in it.

    When really it should be no more than 10-15%....

    The combine should either reinforce what you saw on film or cause you to think twice.
     
  5. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I've been sold on Mathews since late November, and was vocal about it. The combine today just bolstered my confidence that the guy has what it takes to be a playmaker at RB, not just a caretaker or a goalline specialist. Plus, just go watch the draftparty highlight/lowlight videos, they speak for themselves.

    The interview would intrigue me even more than the workout.
     
  6. LT-Express

    LT-Express Bolttalk.com Janitor since 06' Staff Member Super Moderator

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    lol, bro.....Look outside of the Ryan Matthews box for a second. This post has nothing to do with Ryan Matthews.

    It is the fact that the scouting combine as a whole has to much stock put in it as far players draft status.
     
  7. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Those people are usually draft bandwagoners who we both know get all their info on players over this one weekend. Anyone who does their homework knows better.
     
  8. boltsnow

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    I would have to say that some of those items that they put them through are useful but stupid for others. Why you have to put a OL through a 40 yard run seems silly or the 3 cone drill for a QB. But I can understand the 40 for some, benching for others, high jump for some. The dumbest one I think is the 2 footed long jump. I have yet to figure out where that comes in handy in the NFL.
     

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