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....and fans think Weddle is overcompensated!

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Blue Bolt, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    The Buccaneers just gave a $19 million contract to a punter
    By MJD

    If you were looking for definitive evidence that the players finagled themselves a good deal out of the collective bargaining talks, look no further. Former Falcons punter Michael Koenen just got a six-year, $19.5 million deal from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    Once again: Punter. $19.5 million. Nice work, DeMaurice Smith.

    The weirdest thing about it? He's not even that great. Among punters with 50 or more punts last year, Koenen ranked 30th in the league with an average of 40.7 yards. His net average was 35.6 yards, 28th in the league. Koenen is decent at dropping punts inside the 20-yard-line, doing that 29 times last year, tied for 8th in the league.

    He also adds some value as a kickoff specialist, too. He put 23 balls in the endzone for touchbacks on the kickoff last year, good for 3rd in the league. That is a nice thing to have, and field position after kickoffs is an underrated part of the game, but with kickoffs moving up to the 35-yard-line this year, one would think a larger percentage of kickers would be able sail the ball into the endzone.

    Believe me, the last thing in the world I want to do is write a post bashing Michael Koenen(notes). He's a valuable tool in the battle for field position, and I'm sure he's a lovely, lovely man. It just jumped out at me when I saw that he was getting a contract worth $19.5 million.

    In terms of total contract value, it's the biggest deal ever given to a punter. The deal Shane Lechler(notes)signed with the Raiders in 2009 was worth more per year ($16 million over four) and had more guarantees. Lechler was also a much better punter.
     
  2. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Wed's received an amount the Bolt's were willing to part with to keep him. It's kind of tough to say they overpaid in this case, time surely will tell though.
     
  3. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Everyone that thinks we overpaid for bringing Weddle here in the first place will use that thought pattern to decide that his contract is Ludicrus.

    Its just the new average for players *looks moreso like player experience over player position*
     
  4. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Thing is, with the salary floor, we would have spent the money anyway. We basically just siphoned it away from what would have gone in guaranteed money to Liuget - who has tons of potential but hasn't proven anything yet - and gave it to Eric Weddle - who may have a lower ceiling in terms of his career - but has shown that he deserves A big payday. (The size is subjective because we're in a new year with a new revenue division and spending requirement system in its maiden voyage) If Weddle was making $2M less a year, and that money had gone to Liuget in the form of signing bonus money, and paying for years 5, 6, and 7 on a rookie contract, do you think people would really be making that big of a deal?
     
  5. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Is it 98 or 99% of the 120 mil cap that teams are required to spend this year? Im thinkin that some arent factoring this in. There is now a Cap floor and for the first few years of the CBA is gonna translate to teams spending near to the max of the years Cap. Which is why im surprised the lowest spending teams of 2010 didnt do more lucrative contract signing.
     
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    Scifi will get paid well. What I wonder is will he get voted to a Pro Bowl before he finaly gets his big payday contract?? My money is on the Money.
     
  9. 1 COOL GUY 13x world Chmp

    1 COOL GUY 13x world Chmp Jesus gives wisdom if you pray for it! Banned

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    My issue is i don't think he is that good.
     
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    He's better than you think....... and he's just now entering his prime. Weddle and Sanders will make a very good pairing.
     
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    Weddle had his hands on 5 balls that he dropped last year....... plays a routinely made in college. If he caught those balls, along with the couple INTs he did get (including 1 returned for a TD), he would've been a Pro Bowl candidate. With a better supporting cast, Weddle should be able to make a few more game changing plays this year. He's only going to get better.
     
  13. The LBC

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    The thing with Weddle (and the crazier thing was that on my forums it was actually a Raider fan that did the write up) is that if you think he's even remotely close on the talent he is the exact type of guy who, in every other aspect, DESERVES a to be given the benefit of the doubt for a big payday versus an ok/good one.

    This is a guy who, despite his physical shortcomings (smaller stature than you'd prefer from a top flight safety, not-so-natural hands, etc.) never complains, shows up and gives the team 110% every play and every snap of every practice, is a team leader, keeps his nose clean and stays out of trouble, and will flat out go to war flying the team banner whenever and wherever he's asked to.

    Sure, he'll miss an interception here or there, but the guy does not quit. He'll stand in there and go for the tackle on the monster RB's like Shonn Green, Michael Bush, or Brandon Jacobs, knowing full well he's going to get flat out trucked and going to have to leg tackle them after getting rocked - but he still does what's asked of him and holds his ground and goes for that tackle. If the Vincent Jackson's, Jeromey Clary's, and Antonio Cromartie's of this team, past and present, played the game the way Eric Weddle plays the game - I dare say we might well have won a Lombardi by now.
     
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    I would give 100 million for a clutch kicker! :D
     
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    Pumpkin Bolt Zin me!

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    Hey he saved me $100 bucks! :tup:

    I can still wear my #32 to the game!
     
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    it makes since, he will be the most valuable player on the field with that offense
     
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    yea, people who get 40 mill contracts actually had to to prove they can make these game changing plays before they earn a big paydyay. just bc you rack up tackles when the defense is set up this way in a 3-4 with ****** linebackers, doesnt mean your a top 5 safety. dropping 10 picks and blowing game/season tackles doesnt add up to all that in my book.
     
  18. MtlBoltsFan

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    The Weddle contract was ridiculous.... 8 million a season to a 5'10 white safety who has whiffed on major tackles and proven nothing. I like him but at 8 million AJ can kiss my ***. I would pay 5 million max for him per year. He can grab 10 ints next year for all I care, you don't pay safeties 8 million dollars. Real defenses start from the inside out. AJ panicked because the Chargers have had no stability at the safety position since Rodney and he didn't want to keep rotating guys in and out so he overpayed to keep an above average player in the system. What a douche.
     
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    You lost all credibility the second you used race to attack Weddle's ability as an NFL safety. :rolleyes:
     
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    I am a legend here. Know your role, kid.
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Only in leisure's pickled mind, and of course yours.
     
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    Only a legend in your own mind apparently, toddler. :roflmao:
     
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    That is still alot to pay a punter/kick off specialist. What really sucks is it will drive the cost to sign Punters that have more talent up so instead of using money on other players, teams will be paying punters/kickers more then they should.
     
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    Linkey: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/08/weddle-we-do-now-that-the-moneys-all-gone.html
    I am not anti-AJ...but I am starting to think that Weddle
    might be a wizard of some kind.
    It's good for a laugh if you need one.
    Though here's an excerpt from a Canepa article:
    And yet some people are upset he signed Weddle for so much money and didn’t go after cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. You have to be careful. You can get burned.
    Word is the Jets wanted Asomugha badly but let it slip how much they had to spend. To meet the corner’s terms, they asked tailback LaDainian Tomlinson to take a pay cut, which he did, and receiver Jerricho Cotchery, who refused and was released. Asomugha decided on the Eagles, the Jets were forced to re-sign a free agent they no longer coveted, corner Antonio Cromartie, for $8 million, and just got a lot older and slower at receiver.
    Maybe, just maybe, there’s not so much madness to Smith’s method.

    Hmmm....
     

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