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And we are off! Week 1; Chargers vs. Chiefs

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  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    By Curtis Egan
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    Well it is here at long last! Can you smell it? The smell of tailgating grills, pigskin, face paint and sun block? The season is ready to start, and on Monday night, September 13, the San Diego Chargers will roll into Arrowhead stadium and kick off the 2010 season. Arrowhead stadium used to bring fear to Charger teams of the past. It is a hostile environment by every definition of the term. Mo matter what the record is, the Chiefs fans are some of the loyalist, loudest fans in the league. But recently the Chargers have enjoyed some success in this venue, however in a stadium like this a win is never a sure thing.

    Winning in Arrowhead is never easy, the Chargers currently have won the last few time in Arrowhead, and with one more victory they can tie their all time winning streak against the Chiefs, six games. Further, a win by the Chargers would even out the record between the two teams at 50-50-1.

    Both the Chargers and Chiefs come out of the preseason with a record of 1-3, and that is even less important than it reads. Preseason is for rookies, but it is real now, and these divisional rivals are looking to start the season fast by imposing their will on the other. The Chiefs are going to try to get their reworked offense on track early, giving the Chargers yet another slow start to a season. The Chargers in turn will look to get the Defense rolling by putting pressure on the Quarterback early and often.

    The first game of the season is one of the hardest to look at and determine what the key matchups are. You can’t take what you see in preseason and think it represents a team’s strength or weakness. It is also the opening week which can give fans ‘butterflies’ because you don’t really know what you will get. Will the team be largely injury free? Every team has the same chance at the Super Bowl, and every team wants to punch the other in the mouth. Spirits are high, emotions strong. This is the week that teams that should be rolled over give their biggest fight. Remember last season when the Raiders took the fight to the Chargers and nearly won the game. That is a story that happens year after year during the opening week.

    Yet the opening week for those same reasons can be just as exciting. The Chargers and Chiefs are meeting for the 101st time in team history. They know each other, but the real question is do they know themselves? Both teams have some questions they need to answer. Will the Chargers passing game suffer because of the hold out players? The Chiefs have to find out if Quarterback Matt Cassel can perform like he did for that one season in jolly ole’ New England.

    Chiefs Notes:
    The Chiefs have continued their makeover in attempt to become the “New England Patriots West” during the offseason. They brought in offensive coordinator Charlie Weis and defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel. Kansas City GM Scott Pioli has tried to build the same team that he was part of in New England that won Super Bowls. However they have a way to go to prove that they should be mentioned in the same sentence as the Super Bowl. Their Defensive scheme will be new, and it remains to be seen if an aging Mike Vrable will lead a defense that has the same impact as the Super Bowl Patriot defenses did. They have a lot of inexperience in the secondary and while many preseason prognostications had the Chiefs winning the AFC West, they have to prove it on the field, not in the magazines. Changing both Defensive schemes and terminology is not the easiest way to do that.

    They are a bit inexperience at Offensive Left Tackle; 76 Branden Albert has but 29 games under his belt as a pro, he was the 15th pick of the 2008 draft. He is 6’ 5” and 316 lbs. He played only 14 games last season. He has yet to play a full season, though that is not necessarily unheard of for offensive left tackles. Number 67 Barry Richardson backs up Albert, he was a sixth round draft pick in 2008. He is 6’ 6” and 319 pounds but has played only 16 games. These two men will have to be on top of their game to give Quarterback Matt Cassel time to find his receivers.

    Chiefs run a 3-4 Defense as well. One of their top Line backers, 91 Tamba Hali, missed the preseason game against the Packers. He is probable for the opener, and the Chiefs will need him because he is arguably their best pass rusher who has a good combination of size and speed to get to the passer from his outside position. Lin Backer Cameron Sheffield is questionable. However, as the thirds string outside line backer, he is not expected to have a negative impact on his team if he cannot play, unless another Line Backer suffers an injury.

    Number 7 Matt Cassel, QB; Matt has not been able to display the abilities he put on display when he was playing in New England, but the Chiefs are not in this same class as that team. However, Chiefs coach Todd Haley is excited about the upcoming season for his QB.
    "The thing I love is he wants to be good," Haley said. "He wants to be a championship quarterback. You bring up football with him and his eyes (light up). The good quarterbacks I've been around, they like to talk about football. It's their passion."
    While it is always good for a Coach to speak well of their starting QB, there has to be more than just passion. This is the season where Cassel has to prove himself. It will not be an easy task in week one as both teams enter the game with very little usable game footage on each other. Cassel will have to watch the Chargers defense more in this game, and it could prove detrimental to his timing with his receivers.

    Chiefs vs. Tight End Antonio Gates; How will the Chiefs deal with Antonio Gates, when the Chargers bring some fast, tall, jumping receivers and a running game revitalized by a youthful strong, fast running back? The Safety will have to spy on Gates, and the line backers may have to play a more reactive brand of football. If that happens look for Chargers All Pro Quarterback Philip Rivers to be able to pick and choose where to put the ball. If the Chiefs decide to put pressure on Rivers, look for the short passing game to be an out, with Gates and Matthew Ryan mixing it up behind the linebackers in red.

    Chargers Notes:
    Larry English at Outside Line Backer; With Shawne Merriman doubtful to play against the Chiefs, look for Larry English to get the start. He has just two tackles in the preseason, but if Merriman has to miss time, English will likely start. This will be his time to shine as the Chargers Coaches have been pleased with his improvement in camp this spring. He has the speed and size to be able to be a disruptive force but has yet to show the consistency in that department that the Coaches wanted to see. English could arguably keep Merriman on the sidelines with solid performances in these first few games.

    Antoine Cason; how will Cason handle stepping into the starting roll, with only 4 games started in his young career? He has averaged 2 interceptions a year in his first two years. With some pressure on Cassel he has the athleticism to start this season with just as many. However the Chiefs have some fast, experienced receivers and Cason will have to be on top of his game. He is moving out of the nickel role and will be able to do less free styling

    Nose Tackle; Antonio Garay is slated as the starting Nose Tackle, Garay is a four year veteran who has only played in 17 games. That should mean he is fresh, but it also means that he is inexperienced. At 6’ 4” and 320 pounds he is a big load and has good movement off the ball. Garay though is familiar with Defensive Coordinator Ron Rivera and his scheme. With a solid outing the position could be his for the taking. There are some young, big bulls behind him willing to take a crack at the position. The sooner someone solidifies their claim through solid; if not dominating play the better it will be for all Chargers fans.

    Left Tackle. Will Brandyn Dombrowski be able to hold off the Chiefs pass rush and give Rivers the time to throw the ball. The weight of the game is on this young man as all the eyes of Boltsville will be upon him. He accounted for himself quite fairly in preseason, but again now it is for real. Dombrowski has filled in along many spots on the offensive line and did a solid job in back up roles. Now he must step in and protect Rivers on an every snap basis. While he probably is a better run blocker than Marcus McNeil, who sits at home waiting for a big contract extension, he is not the pass blocker that McNeil is, causing some concern as to how well Rivers will be protected while dropping back for the long pass.
    When speaking of the concerns voiced about his playing left tackle, Dombrowski said “That’s all right,” says Dombrowski, a natural left guard who played right tackle and some right guard last year when starters Jeromey Clary and Louis Vasquez went down. “I expected it, but I don’t pay attention to it, because I can’t. There are too many people counting on me to get the job done -- or they’ll find somebody else who will. It’s an opportunity, no matter what happens the rest of the way.

    I think it is important while Dombrowski has not played to the level to make everyone feel entirely comfortable at the absence of McNeil, neither has his play made everyone feel all is lost either. He actually accounted well for himself against some rather good pass rushers. Perhaps not the long term answer, but Dombrowski has proven himself to be a capable backup and able to fill different holes along the offensive line. That is something that every team needs and not all teams have.
     
  2. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    What to watch for:
    Running Game: Both teams are teams that love to mix in the run and the Chargers appear to have a revitalized running game with the inclusion of Ryan Matthews. Matthews showed some excellent vision, speed and strength during the preseason, this was against fisrt string defenses. I think that Matthews will be key to helping the offense stay on the field. He will be able to keep drives alive and prevent the opposing defense from focusing solely on the passing game.

    Passing Game: Both teams have something to prove with the pass. The Chargers have to show that they can still get an effective, vertical passing game without their hold outs. Further the Chiefs have to prove that their inexperienced secondary can prevent the high octane Chargers offense from moving up and down the field by way of the pass.

    The Chiefs as well have to prove that Matt Cassel can lead the offense and put points on the scoreboard. Cassel had as many interceptions as he did touchdowns last season, 16 each. He has, since 2005 39 touch downs and 29 interceptions. He has to prove that he is able to be a starting QB in the NFL. He has some weapons at Tight End and Receiver, but reacts to pressure by rushing his passes.

    Pressure on the QB: I know this goes without saying, but the team that can pressure the other QB consistently will go a long way to winning the game. The question will be can the Chargers Left Tackle give Rivers the time he needs to look down field? Can the Chargers pressure Cassel with the Defensive line and a line backer, or will they have to being in blitzes from the secondary. This to me is one of the most intriguing portions of this game. What sort of product will be put on the field? These two teams are slated by many to duke it out for the AFC West this season, and one of the biggest factors will be who can consistently pressure the opposing signal callers.

    #24 Ryan Matthews has a lot on his plate. It is not easy to come in and replace a future hall of fame player like LaDainian Tomlinson. But if preseason is an indicator Matthews has all the tools to replace Tomlinson in SD and bring back a running attack that must be respected. That balance could well prove to be what the Chargers need should they make it to the post season.

    Injuries: Without a doubt nothing can make a good team average quicker than injuries, last season during the opening game the Chargers lost 5 players to injuries. They will have to come out of this game in better shape than the opener last season.

    My gut feeling is the Chargers will struggle some, the Chiefs will be improved over last season, but I think that the Chargers will win this game, 24 to 13. The crowd will cause some problems, and there will be hiccups on both sides of the ball to work out for both teams. But in the end, while the Chiefs are arguably the second best team in the AFC West, I don’t see that they have had the time to fully implement the new coaching schemes, nor do they have all the bodies in place to take the West form the Chargers. In the end, I think it will be a good game, but one that I see going to the Chargers none the less.
     
  3. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    I cant beleive this game is ONLY a week away. Normaly that only would be emphasized b/c i cant beleive how long away it is. But this game I am amazed at how fast it is coming up!!

    This will be my first ever NFL game, and yes im goin with a bunch of chef fans. If I dont make it out alive from one of the most hostile stadiums to play in, at least u all can remember it. :]

    Seriously cannot wait for this fkin game!!
     
  4. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    It is hard to accept that I wont be able to do anything to quiet the crowd on O. Im glad we know what to do in this situation anyway. Gonna be a good game I deffinatly look to see KC do their usual and keep the game close.
     
  5. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    Ever seen a New York Jets game? One guy get the whole stadium to shout J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS! I've seen them do it when they were the away team at Cincinnati, pretty cool.

    Try that: B-O-L-T! Bolts! Bolts! Bolts! lol

    Seriously, no one can get any stadium to quiet down when the home team is on offense. It's football; it's just loud. That is why we love game day! Have fun Bolt Brother!
     
  6. NorwayBolt

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    A long wait is over. In just a few days the Chargers led by Rivers will start their road to the Super Bowl. I believe this could very well be the year you long time fans have waited for every year. Too bad for me the Chiefs game starts at 4.15 am tuesday morning norwegian time.. I guess i have to go to sleep early, and wake up and see the match before work...
     
  7. bigmike.x.09

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    Hey, don't forget about us youngens!
     
  8. Helljumper

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    I can't wait for this! I hope we blow them out like we did in both of our meetings last season and RM24 goes off for 100+ yards.
     
  9. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    That 10:15 pm start is going to be a tough one on me but I look forward at the challenge. Funny thing is this off season is already over almost as if it never occurred.
     
  10. paddyirishman

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    Imagine what its like for us Eurobolts, kick off is 4.15 am Monday morning
     
  11. Sandolf

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    I don't have to imagine Paddy... I lived over there for 22 years. You may be an hour out. 4:15 sounds like CET. You should be on at 3:15.
     
  12. markrc99

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    Huge, opening venue for the Chiefs on Monday night. Their new weapon, Dexter McCluster has great speed and explosiveness, cuts clean, very elusive. Get him to that second tier and he's the type that can split the seam and turn it into a foot race to the endzone. He's slight of stature, just can't be expected to consistently tug for tough yds inside. Will be overwhelmed by any legit rushing LB in pass protection. He's strictly someone they want to get into the open field, that's where he'll be real dangerous.

    If Kansas City has anything resembling a threat off the weakside edge, I'd look for their speed dog every time Dombrowski is in a 3 pt stance. Anytime Malcolm Floyd is in the X slot and Gates is also lined on the strongside, they're going to cause real coverage problems. I don't know what the tendency is, but I would guess that the Chiefs would roll their coverage to that side, affording Naanee single man coverage. Hester at FB is a joke, that's a sellout to get some speed at the sacrifice of everything else. Ryan Matthews has proven that if the OL can get a push and create a lane, he'll exploit it. My bet is if he's ineffective it isn't his fault. I'll be watching Philip Rivers very closely. His timing, but more pressing, his accuracy has to improve. Should he take his game to the next level, look out!

    The Chargers are the team I've followed this summer and personnel-wise, it's not so much what they've done, but what they didn't do. While this uncapped year has allowed bigger fish to spend and dump their allocated waste, I found an observation by DenverBolt67 to be quite enlightening. That the Chargers, a lower-revenue team is digging out the floor. Unfortunately, even though the Chargers have been winners, they just don't have the support of their base. When you win, you're supposed to be able to sell but it's not working that way for them. They've successfully sold the rationale for gutting a good part of the core that built this team.

    For some, it makes no sense, why would Deano do it? Because this is a business, it's a bottom-line decision. He could've kept those players and aggressively added the help they needed in this window, but he opted to go on the cheap. He could've added the horses, but from a profitability standpoint, it's a net loser. I'm sorry but there's ample evidence to support that perspective. The counter argument is of course that throwing money just anywhere, sh!+, straight into the trash can, isn't the answer. No one is suggesting that it is. If Rivers doesn't raise his game, I think they'll win about 10 games, which gives a team like Oakland a chance. The Chargers may well win the west, but this notion that it's a foregone conclusion is going to be shattered.
     
  13. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Did you just predict that the Raiders have a chance if the Chargers win only 10 games? What division did you follow before the AFC West?
     
  14. Retired Catholic

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    Oakland has a solid chance to finish second in the division. They have a chance at the division only if we can't stay relatively healthy. Letting Jeremy Williams get off to Philly has put me off my feed. I suspect he and Welker will be mentioned in the same breath before too much longer.
     
  15. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    I see it Chargers, Chiefs Raiders Broncos. With the last three at 8-8 or lower. Again, it is just a guess... My 8ball has the same chance of being wrong as anyone elses...
     
  16. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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    markrc99 - Where do you come up this dung?



    over the last 5 years the stadium has been on average 95% sold out. It's been many years since I've been there but I can only guess it's not higher because the Murph probably has some really crappy seats.


    where is this evidence? he offered our two hold outs $3,000,000 plus for one stinking year.

    your babble is without substance.
     
  17. markrc99

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    This is the rah-rah thread, I'll stay off this one. I think the Chargers have to drop for the Raiders to have a chance, and what I said is that if Rivers doesn't raise his game, that can happen.
     
  18. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    So Rivers needs to raise his level of performance beyond the near MVP levels he has been producing at? What do you base that on?
     
  19. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Just wanted to note that this is a well written article. Nicely done Conc!
     
  20. coachmarkos

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    I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say this game worries me.

    I don't think the Chiefs will take the division from us, but I don't like Monday Night, on the road, against a division Rival. (again).

    They are going to come out with all the guns a blazing(like the Raiders did last year), and the problem with the Cheifs, unlike the Raiders is that they have a good staff that will be able to do some gameplanning.

    We don't start the year well...under Norv, we always look kind of basic early on...and the offense gets better and better as the season goes on...

    I'm nervous. The rational side of my brain says we win...but I worry.
     
  21. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    You just explained how I feel at every game... But I definately agree.
     
  22. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Well... yes and no. Arguably, as much as I hate to admit it, a lot of Raiders supporters have a fair argument that if Russell wasn't the starting QB for that Game 1 last year, and all the other chips (i.e. injuries) fell as they did, that Oakland probably should have won that game. That said, that Raider team coming out all guns blazing and this Chiefs team coming out all guns blazing are two different animals.

    Defensively, at least where we're more vulnerable, last year's Raiders squad was more talented on defense (i.e. front 7) than this year's Chiefs squad is. How Dombrowski will perform against Tamba Hali is a concern, however he had a good showing against one of the premier 3-4 pass-rushers in the preseason so take that with a grain of salt. Crennel's defensive scheme even in New England still had a heavy focus on sending the ILB blitz, as well as is far more of a zone-based 2-gap 3-4 which won't be using Hali as an every-down rusher. So yes, Rivers' accuracy will key our passing attack, but our passing game is very heavily slanted at the moment towards finding holes in zone and picking it apart.

    Also worth noting is that Eric Berry is playing FS for them, not SS, as Jarrad Page was just traded to the Pats. That leaves Donald Washington starting at SS, with rookie Rashad Langford behind him. Both are corner-to-SS converts and as a result a little on the smaller side, which should give Gates a more favorable match up in the instance the Chiefs don't just try to run Derrick Johnson on him all game (which if we can establish Mathews early shouldn't be as much of an option).

    I won't be surprised in the least to see us stumble early on, first quarter, first half. But we can afford to get into a shootout with the Chiefs, they don't have that luxury. Our team is tackling much better in general this season, from what we've seen so far, and we've long-ball susceptible... Kansas City really isn't a long-ball team though. I'm project that it's close +/- 3 points either way from dead even at the half, but we'll pull away to a two-score win-margin in the second half.
     
  23. AnteaterCharger

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    What concerns me about the Chiefs in this game are two things (and two things only)
    1) The energy over a monday night game (finally) for the Chiefs as they open up their brand new stadium. That place will be rocking from the get go. Combined with a team that seems to think they can play well, a young team slowly developing, that could lead to problems if we dont take them seriously
    2) Their run game. This will be a decent test right out the gate with Charles and Jones both being very good runners who compliment each other nicely. We have to be able to stop their run game because if they can constantly control the clock and keep the offense off the field, we will be in trouble.

    That's really about it. As long as the team plays up to its ability this will be a great chance to show case their talent and show they don't need Jackson or McNeil. Offensively the Chargers have too many weapons and the chiefs don't have the defensive horses to match up. Defensively the Chargers can stop Cassell but they better stop Jones/Charles first.
     
  24. scratchnz

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    Both teams will be relying on their Running Games early on.

    I believe the key to winning this game will be in converting 3rd downs to keep drives going and allow each teams running games to get a roll on and get into their stride early!

    Defence is going to be key in this regard. Getting pressure of the QB is key! Both the Chargers and Chiefs have early questions over their respective pass-rush...who is going to come out ahead???

    ooooooooooohh I can't wait to see!!! SO EXCITED!
     
  25. scratchnz

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    Your fears are valid...we don't start the season well these days...its a division Rivial game...Monday Night...Away from home...

    BUT...this team has a lot to prove to Charger fans that they are serious about overcoming these Hold-outs and pushing for the superbowl everyones talking about! All it needs is for the Chargers players to come out with same intensity as the Chiefs and we will win! We are better than them...man-for-man...it will just come down to who wants it more? Us or them.
     
  26. Boltergeist

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    This game worries me only because we are such notorious slow starters and simply can't afford to do it this year. We need this game more than people would like to think. If we end up 10-6 or something where we are one or 2 games away from a much better playoff seeding, a loss in this game will taste particularly nasty. Also, it shouldn't be underestimated that the Chiefs are playing at home on MNF to open the season in a newly refurbished stadium (which looks great BTW)...so I expect some of the extreme Arrowhead crowd noise of the 1990's to resurface...at least early.

    That being said, I have done some frequenting of Chiefs boards and they seem awfully concerned about the interior of their D-Line again which they seem to thing looked like crap during the pre-season...I think we're also improved in this area so if we can pound the rock with our new weapon Mathews, it's going to be a tough road for them to slow down our offense.
     
  27. CoronaDoug

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    Wide Right!
     
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    Wide Left!
     
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    Just practicing...:icon_rofl:
     
  30. scratchnz

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    Save it for the Playoffs! lol :lol:
     

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