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Assuming we win the division...playoff scenarios?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Ray Dahayder, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. Ray Dahayder

    Ray Dahayder BoltTalker

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    Let's assume that we win this pathetic west division. We will probably have the worst record of all the division leaders, which means we play a first round game. What are the scenarios of who and where we would play?

    There are two wild card teams, right? Then, the two division leaders with the worst records play those two wild card teams, with the division leaders being the home team, no matter what the records are of the wild card teams.

    So, let's assume that the colts and pats are the two best records at the end of the year. That means the chargers will play host to a wild card team.

    It is highly likely that we will have at least one playoff game here this year. Whether we win it is highly doubtful.

    That's why I think the FO (AJ and Norv) are just focused on winning the division now. Get one home game, at least. Then, we'll either be on to boston or indy for the next game, if we win.

    I'm thinking that the teams we would play would either be Jacksonville or Tennessee, with maybe an outside chance of KC or Cleveland.
     
  2. PowderLove

    PowderLove Former Mod, Current Slacker

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    Norv is focused on running LT up the gut.
     
  3. WonderSlug

    WonderSlug Well-Known Member

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    I dunno man, Tampa's also got a 5-4 record leading the NFC South, and even if Seattle wins their next game, they'll be 5-4 as well.

    So, it will be the AFC West, NFC West, and NFC South battling it out for "worst" division champion. :lol:
     
  4. Thumper

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    If the season were to end right now, this would be the senario:

    SEEDS

    1) New England Patriots 9-0
    2) Indianapolis Colts 7-2 (Better record against common opponents than the Steelers)
    3) Pttisburgh Steelers 7-2
    4) San Diego Chargers 5-4
    5) Jacksonville Jaguars 6-3 (Wildcard)(Better conference record than the Titans)
    6) Tennessee Titans 6-3 (Wildcard)

    Playoffs would be set like this:

    Wildcard weekend:

    Titans @ Steelers
    Jaguars @ Chargers

    Divisional Round:

    If Titans win:
    Titans @ Patriots
    (winner of Chargers/Jaguars) @ Colts

    If Steelers win:
    (winner of Chargers/Jaguars) @ Patriots
    Steelers @ Colts

    AFC Championship round:

    These are the combinations possible if the Chargers were still in it.

    Chargers @ Patriots

    or

    Chargers @ Colts

    or

    Chargers @ Steelers

    or

    Titans @ Chargers
     
  5. WonderSlug

    WonderSlug Well-Known Member

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    Imagine the anguished look on most of the country if that happened! :icon_rofl:
     
  6. Chavez

    Chavez Well-Known Member

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    We're still hiding our real playbook for the playoffs.
     
  7. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    most likely Chargers as the fourth seed would host someone line Jacksonville or maybe Tennessee (don't think the Bills, Browns or someone else from the AFC west makes it into the playoffs)
     
  8. pgreenbe305

    pgreenbe305 Well-Known Member

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    Nice! Are we also hiding who our real team is too, for the playoffs? It sure feels like it. Happy for the win, but it had to have been the ugliest thing I'd seen since Poway H.S. played Rancho Bernardo in 1997.

    Actually- there were less fumbles and dropped snaps in that game, so it was the worse!
     
  9. maestro876

    maestro876 BoltTalker

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    It'll be impossible to tell how we play in the playoffs until January.

    Steelers in 2005 were 6th seed, but were playing their best of the entire season and ripped through the playoffs winning three straight away games and the Super Bowl. Regular season records don't matter once January starts.
     
  10. Thumper

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    Yeah if it were to end right now, Jags and Titans would be the wildcards with with Jags the higher seed due to tie breakers.

    Here are the tiebreaker rules

    NFL tiebreaking procedures

    With the NFL realigning into eight four-team divisions to accommodate the arrival of the Houston Texans, the league adopted new tiebreaking rules.

    Common opponents will now be the third tiebreaker within a division after head-to-head games and division record because each of the four teams will have 14 common games in the 16-game schedule. The owners also moved the strength-of-victory tiebreaker ahead of the strength-of-schedule tiebreaker.

    The six postseason participants from each conference will now be seeded as follows:

    1. The division champion with the best record.
    2. The division champion with the second-best record.
    3. The division champion with the third-best record.
    4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
    5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
    6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.

    The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

    NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.

    TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
    If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

    Two Clubs

    1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in common games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

    Three or More Clubs
    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

    1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in common games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

    TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
    If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

    1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
    2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

    Two Clubs

    1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    4. Strength of victory.
    5. Strength of schedule.
    6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best net points in conference games.
    9. Best net points in all games.
    10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    11. Coin toss.

    Three or More Clubs
    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

    1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
    2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in conference games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss

    When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

    OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES

    1. Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild-Card tie breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to step one of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tie breaker, all other clubs revert to step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
    2. In comparing division and conference records or records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
    3. To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
    4. To determine home-field priority for Wild-Card qualifiers, apply division tie breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild-Card tie breakers (if teams are from different ivisions).

    TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
    If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

    1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
    2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

    If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.
     
  11. Retired Catholic

    Retired Catholic BoltTalker

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    There aren't enough accountants and lawyers in the NFL admin. This far too simple. They could make it far more obtuse and difficult to understand if they simply use a BCS software clone. What's the matter with these people?
     

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