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Blackout Possible?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Pointyearedog, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I love the smell of football in the morning.

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    Has anyone heard if the game is a sell-out or a blackout? I just heard that there are still a few tickets out there that can be bought cheaply. Are fans being skeptical about the new regime? Just curious.

    Pointy :unsure:
     
  2. Lance19

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    My impression is that Charger fans are largely (overly?) optimistic about the new regime.

    I think it's the diminished roster & lower expectations that principally account for the lack of a sell-out for a big MNF event.
     
  3. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

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    As of yesterday, there were 3200 tickets left & the team asked for a 24 hour extension. When that happens, they always find a way to sell the remaining tickets to lift the blackout.
     
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    Cheapseats Loud, proud Charger fan

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    Usually a local casino or one of the TV stations will eat the remaining tickets. It should be sold out by the deadline.
     
  5. Bolts4lyfe

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    That's sad, they can't sell out so someone eats the cost. It's embarrassing, I know everything is much more expensive in San Diego, and money is tight for a lot of the good, hard working folk but Being one that lived in Encinitas for 25 years. I know, people can afford to go to the games, but choose not to.
     
  6. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    It should be a blackout if folks ain't gonna buy a spot for their arse. Deano shouldn't ask for any more extensions if it happens again, he doesn't owe anyone anything as far as sellouts go.
     
  7. Lance19

    Lance19 BoltTalker

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    But when the unwashed masses can't see your entertainment product...that's a bad (long-term) business model.
     
  8. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I sure as hell don't remember Ray Kroc giving away any hamburgers and he did alright.
     
  9. Lance19

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    That's why I said "entertainment."

    A fifty cent item, slid across the counter, is radically different than a multi-billion dollar pageant that
    is dependent on massive television contracts...which are predicated on how many people are loyal to your "show."


    (oh, and just to be 100% intellectually honest: Kroc did give away tons of hamburgers...of course the Olympic tie-ins
    are legendary, but even locally here, there's probably a bunch of guys on this board who remember "Big Mac Night"
    from the mid-'70s, when Kroc gave away hamburgers--by the thousands--in honor of then-Padre Willie McCovey)
     
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  10. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    The TV networks and advertisers are paying the Chargers to broadcast the game..... they are not only hurting their fans, they are hurting their business partners. It's a stupid and archaic practice that should be abandoned by the league.
     
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    Well this is something that is not to surprising. And with the preseason games that were blacked out why were regular season games be any different. During the span of the season how many games are we to expect to be blacked out?
     
  12. Lance19

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    The conventional wisdom was usually that a team's prior season (7-9, in this case) :unsure: largely shapes
    most teams' current attendance. Not a good sign for us. :(

    That said, a great showing against the Texans would undoubtedly reduce the disturbing blackout momentum...


    p.s. Is 3KPeteer pronounced "Kay kay kay peter" ?
     
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  13. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

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    Both preseason games were not blacked out.

    And the home opener will not be blacked out either:
    http://www.chargers.com/news/articl...ans-Game/070f0936-33d0-4c77-9645-7e2da4b22941

     
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  14. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I love the smell of football in the morning.

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    Ah, we get Boomer and Buster...
     
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    No. it is just a nickname I was given by a friend for my three kidneys. Transplant.
     
  17. Lance19

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    Whew! Good to know (the Pulaski contingent is in a separate [but equal] thread).

    Well, as I say to all new 3-kidney'd members: "Urea welcome addition to Bolt Talk. Enjoy!"
     
  18. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Since "fans" aren't necessary to run a multi-billion dollar "entertainment industry" why build stadiums? Just play the game on a regulation field at a local park and don't charge those attending.

    Funny thing, I can't for the life of me remember getting a Big Mac for free that someone didn't pay for in some fashion.
     
  19. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    You should bring this up with the very people that YOU have voted for that allow this "stupid and archaic practice" . I don't care if it's shown in San Diego or not, listen to the radio broadcast it's free if YOU don't want to spring for a seat.
     
  20. Lance19

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    I have no idea where you're going with that first part. Neither of us was talking about anything like that.

    The second part is also weird. Are you changing your use of "free" from how it's usually used
    (and what you clearly originally meant) like "Starbuck's is giving away free 12 ounce coffees today"
    to the much more esoteric (and comically strict) Econ concept, re. "There's no such thing as a free lunch" ?
    If so, then you've just changed the discussion entirely, because virtually nothing ever happens
    "that someone didn't pay for in some fashion." By that definition the word "free" is now useless,
    as it would virtually never apply, anywhere, ever.

    Let me see if I'm following where you want to go, Hex.

    A) You say "I sure as hell don't remember Ray Kroc giving away any hamburgers"

    B) I point out that Kroc gave away hamburgers by the thousands, especially to San Diegans, to promote his brand.

    C) You respond that the concept of "free" does not really exist, because you're only using it in the nonexistent sense,
    to apply to unicorns and other things "that someone didn't pay for in some fashion."

    I'm more than happy to discuss economic concepts (maybe the 'Philosophy' thread would be more appropriate, though)
    but I don't understand how you've come close to seriously refuting either of my claims:
    That deriving income from staging a multi-billion dollar show is significantly different than producing and serving a cheap tangible, 3d item...
    and that Kroc did "give away" (in your words) millions of hamburgers (a business model that his corporation continues to this day).
    http://www.wivb.com/news/local/free-big-macs-to-first-100-customers
     
  21. Blue Bolt

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    We don't vote for the NFL owners..... they're the ones who created the policy. The only politician to seriously consider getting into the NFL's "business" over the blackout policy was Richard Nixon.

    The "nothing free" mantra is just a joke in this instance. The NFL has been paid for the broadcast rights to the games..... to the sum of billions of dollars. Whether the Spanos family sells every last one of the available tickets or not, they still get the same percentage of the TV money. But, when they blackout the games, they ARE taking money away from the local TV stations that broadcast the game. They lose out (in advertising dollars), and their advertisers lose out (in promoting their products to the audience), and the local viewers lose out by not seeing the game, when they've paid their TV providers for that service. Precious few people are using "rabbit ears" these days to watch the NFL.

    The idea that anyone is getting something free here is amusing, to say the least.
     
  22. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    First of all I never said anything about Free my only point was that Dean is not obligated to ask for extensions. Dean has spent millions on advertising for his "product" hopefully so "fans" will but tickets if "you" really need to see the game. Or you can just listen to it on the radio and not spend a dime, that's up to "YOU" otherwise Just STFU and deal with it!
     
  23. Lance19

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    Why are you saying "STFU" to me?
    I've never complained about paying to go to games...
    I merely said--accurately--that keeping people from viewing your product,
    when you're in the entertainment business, is a terrible long-term plan...
    then you went off on some crazy (and easily disproved) hamburger tangent...
     
  24. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Blanket statement, I never brought up a hamburger other than the fact I never received a "Free Big-Mac" that you my friend decided to grind into this conversation. I merely pointed out that nothing is truly "free" no matter what the platform.
     
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    And I clearly showed how the TV viewers do pay for watching the game..... and the teams are getting paid from the TV networks. There isn't any "free" involved. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
     
  26. Lance19

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    I never brought up a hamburger other than the fact I never received a "Free Big-Mac"

    :rolleyes: Dude, you can type anything you want to pretend that my response wasn't accurate and appropriate.

    No, you absolutely did not say that YOU had never received a free hamburger...
    I would have no way of knowing that, wouldn't have cared, and would have never addressed it. You actually wrote:
    "I sure as hell don't remember Ray Kroc giving away any hamburgers and he did alright"
    which was not only illogical re. Charger blackouts, it was also just 100% opposite of the real history (as proven).
    You sure you want to keep trying to beat this dead horse?
     
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  27. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I love the smell of football in the morning.

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    So, I take it the blackout has been lifted? I wonder which casino bought up those last few thousand tickets? Go Bolts!
     
  28. robdog

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    This is so true. I almost feel like a bad fan with my current expectations. I find myself watching college football a lot thinking, man, this guy would be a great draft pick. :(
     
  29. Lance19

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    I also 'almost' :cautious: feel bad...but not for simply acknowledging that this is the weakest Charger team in a decade...
    ESPN power rankings have us at #24...which would be equal to about a 6-10 record.

    And though it's the lowest the Chargers begun a season in ages, ESPN's ranking is very optimistic compared to
    most other sources, which average us at #27!! :oops: So, no, I don't feel bad re. just being honest about this.

    All that said, I think that with a bit of luck, no more key injuries, and a few guys playing a little
    over their resume...yeah, we've got a puncher's chance of surprising some folks...
     
  30. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    You can take your melodrama about blackouts and go the fawk off, I don't care whether you and Blue can watch the games for free. I simply don't give a fawk about complainers, be proactive, not reactive or STFU!!!! Pull your big boy panties up and understand Dean is in business to make money and that includes selling tickets and when the local Native Americans of news channels buy them up for your pleasure be thankful, don't bite the hand the feeds you, including Ray Kroc and the free hamburgers you ate.
     

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