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Bottom line: This loss was just a fluke loss

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by 14fouts, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. 14fouts

    14fouts BoltTalker

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    You can blame it on Norv all u want, but things happened in this game that didnt happen all year, if we played again no way we lose, unfortunately that cant happen, but what does norv have to do with Gates dropping passes he hasnt dropped all year. Weddle missing one on one tackle on td run. Rivers throwing one int that was unexplainable and other was a lucky fluke. A kicker who has made like 69 in a row or something 40 yds and under- misses 2 in same game. Not to mention all the stupid penalties- False starts, personal fouls. Just unexplainable- the game was just not meant to be for whatever reason, but it wasnt norvs fault. Even though I believe we shoulda kicked off not onside kick with 2 min warning and 1 timeout left. If jets had 4th and 1 on their side of field they would have punt for sure. But it still didnt mean we would have won, but coulda gave us a better chance.
     
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  2. Chavez

    Chavez Well-Known Member

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    I think about the only thing this board agrees on right now is that its not a fluke.
     
  3. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious:

    OMG!!! :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious:
     
  4. 14fouts

    14fouts BoltTalker

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    Dude your a joke- u can say whatever u want, but your full of ****. I know it and everyone else on here knows it too. Your not happy unless you have something to ***** about- thats pretty obvious. You should change your name on here to DebbieDowner :tdown:
     
  5. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    You are the ONLY poster who thinks Sunday was a fluke. Now that's funny!!!

    :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious:
     
  6. 14fouts

    14fouts BoltTalker

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    Take a poll then. I guarantee I wont be the only one
     
  7. bigmike.x.09

    bigmike.x.09 Well-Known Member

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    it just wasnt our day. ill call it a fluke. 9/10 times we would beat the jets. this was that 1 time.
     
  8. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    I think it was a fluke.

    The yellow laundry the player called down on themselves, Kaeding doing his best Wade Richey imitation... PR looking down in the 3rd quarter...

    Something was off.

    Did someone say they say an article with Gates calling out other players? Is there a link?
     
  9. 14fouts

    14fouts BoltTalker

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    Exactly- maybe not 9 out of 10 but at least 7 or more. Games like this happen in all sports, we are not the first team who was the better team and lost in the playoffs, better yet gave a game away in the playoffs, it happens. Doesnt mean it was the coaches fault- these are professional players not high school or college and they didnt get it done. Nate makes those two kicks and we win, noone says anything about Norv.
     
  10. Retired Catholic

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    Fluke: Anyone of a number of flat fishes, such as flounders, or worms, specifically trematodes. So you're correct-our guys were flat and as cold as fish. Like they often are in the playoffs, where they flounder out of habit.
     
  11. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    Oh gosh... I forgot to wear my lucky boxers!!! It's amazing what an impact that had on the team!!! :rolleyes: :lol:
     
  12. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    I don't think it was a fluke. The team got exposed as a bunch of immature pussies. Jets punched them in the face and they just stood there and took it.
     
  13. ETicket

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    Fluke, most definitely. You'd have to be looking for the negative to see it any other way IMHO.
     
  14. bigmike.x.09

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    17 points isn't getting exposed. 10 penalties isn't getting punched in the face, it's shooting yourself in the foot. We never could get started simply because we made too many mistakes that killed momentum. It's very hard to get momentum if you start a drive, get to 3rd and 3, get a false start and now you're looking at 3rd and 8. This **** happens man. If we had been doing this all year long, I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but this was NOT us. And I refuse to give the Jets any more than a "congrats on taking advantage of our mistakes."
     
  15. Workplay

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    It was a total collapse. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
  16. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    I think you have a drive a divide between WHY WE LOST and HOW THEY PLAYED. The loss is on Kaeding. Against the Jets, it's a loss because simply scoring TDs just isn't that easy. Beating them with field goals is a damn good strategy. You expect him to make a 36 and 40 yarder or just one of those and it's a W or an OT game. Therefore, fluke loss - kicker had a bad day.

    However, the game sucked. The Chargers played terribly and made many, many stupid mistakes.

    The game plan centered on getting Rivers time and that just flew out the window when LT and Turner learned that running on the Jets is hard work. In hindsight, Tolbert leading Sproles/Bennett should have at least been given a shot. Rivers had a terrible "oh ****" interception and one fluke INT off Jackson's foot. Gates dropped two passes he usually makes. The offensive line found out just how tough the Jets defense actually was. It wasn't clicking but it was trudging along and again, that's when you need a kicker to bail you out. He failed.

    A player who actually has this problem with weird cases of disgusting unsportsmanlike penalties that hurt the team no doubt, Jackson, and a loud mouth linebacker that gets really heated up easily, Philips, got some laundry thrown their way. Give 15 yards or so and new set of downs to the Jets there.

    The Chargers Dline rotation broke down due to the Jets constant insistence on running the the ball directly at the secondary by using little tricks and stunts to rip those D- linemen out of the game entirely, definitely a reason why a 9-7 team actually lead the league in rushing. The linebackers were good enough, but secondary players means 6 yards gained instead of 2. Weddle blew a tackle. Cro blew three of four. It was an awful game and consistent with the early season as well as an uncanny resemblance to a loss to the Patriots in the 2006 Playoffs. So no, not a fluke. We've seen it before and it sucks. Who's to blame? Probably everyone mentioned here.
     
  17. HollywoodLeo

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    There's no such thing as a "fluke".

    "Fluke" is for sore losers.
     
  18. Airw0lf

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    The sudden shower of flags raining down on us certainly reminded me of the 2006 game. Even down to Phillips' headbutt reminding me of a certain other headbutt.

    I can't believe the number of brain explosions we had ACROSS THE ENTIRE TEAM. What gives? Here is a brief list:

    1. Kaeding 2 times (I will cut him slack on the 50+ yarder)
    2. Rivers throwing such an uncharacteristic pass for the second interception. In hindsight it might even have been better conceding the potential sack and/or safety. That int led to a Jets drive that took plenty of time off the clock.
    3. Gates missing a couple easy catches by his standards.
    4. Jackson's unsportsmanlike.
    5. Phillips' headbutt.
    6. A multitude of false starts (maybe there it was just Jets pressure on defense?)

    A lot of those errors were happening even BEFORE we were behind and playing catch-up! What gives? We were at home!

    *sob*.
     
  19. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    We lost by the one part of the game there is no coaching for. Mental errors, and the Jet's hammered away at that and succeeded in drawing out the worst in the Bolt players.
     
  20. wrbanwal

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    Now that my blood pressure is somewhat back to normal,

    I also question if the Bolt players started to believe the hype the media was spewing about how great the jets defense was.

    It looked to me like we never attacked them, we were just waiting for them to dictate the flow of the game. Stupid penalties can only be lack of focus being to worried about getting beat.

    It was like we got called out by the skool bully, met him behind the cafeteria, then cried like a little skool girl.

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  21. Boltzlover

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    No he is not - players did things Sunday that they did not do all season. Fluke.
     
  22. msmith

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    I agree with the mental errors part. As a previous poster mentioned that the game reminded the 07 game vs the Patriots. But isn't the coach's job to prepare the players both physically and mentally?
     
  23. powayslugger

    powayslugger Feckless Slappy

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    Bottom Line:

    Playoff record this year 0-1

    nuf said
     
  24. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Bullshit.

    "Getting Exposed" and "Fire this person and that person" is for sore losers. Wake up and smell the locker room!
     
  25. 14fouts

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    No I am not a sore loser, I'm just going on what I saw. If the Jets just outplayed us and we played our normal game and lost, I would give them credit, but that didnt happen, we handed them the game on a silver platter. Last year when we lost to Pittsburgh, it wasnt a fluke they just beat us bottom line. I can accept that.
     
  26. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Prepare is the key word here. Your math teacher can prepare you for the upcoming exam, It's up to you to study and know the material.

    Norv's game plan was working fine, we were moving the ball well, our guy's were physical and ready to go. They lost it between the ear's. Norv can preach all he wants about personal fouls, it's up to the player not to commit them.

    The now infamous second interception, did River's throw to long or did Jackson cut the route to short? It was a hot read and we've seen those two connect on many play's over the year's. Mental error's will kill a team, we saw it first hand.

    That is not coaching, that's on the player's, Norv is not out on the field with them. Even looking at the Jet's TD run, it was perfectly called defense, very poorly executed, end of game.

    I believe what I saw last Sunday to be a break down in the player's. You have your opinion and that's fine. I can see some changes in the player makeup next season, were as someone on defense has to step up and call out poor play, same on offense. This nansy, pansy garbage has got to stop, it happened under Marty's watch and it's happened again. Two totally different coaches same result. That's on the player's not the coaching. JMHO.
     
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  27. Chavez

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    Exactly!
     
  28. powayslugger

    powayslugger Feckless Slappy

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    It's not a fluke for Cromartie to not even try to make a tackle... that's how he operated all season long. How many times did you watch the Chargers tackle the ball carrier and there is Cromartie... standing above the pile looking at it... never helped with the tackle... just sort of an observer. Someone else said it before... the dude is the highest paid spectator in the NFL!

    I tell you this: He makes the tackle on Green (or at least TRIES) or he helps Weddle out and we win that game.

    This BS isn't just a fluke. These are mistakes and attitudes that have been accepted and let go all year long. Arm tackles just aren't "in" on championship caliber teams. "Wrap em ups" that are taught in Pop Warner leagues are the tackles what winners make.

    It wasn't flukes that did us in... it was poor discipline and lack of fundamentals.
     
  29. wrbanwal

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    Good point Gramps, they're just a bunch of prima donna, pansy assed, over-paid, over-hyped misfits!!

    :icon_twisted::icon_twisted::icon_twisted:

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  30. LaDeezie21

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    HAHAHHAHAAHA dude it's called choking. you just gave a perfect definition of the word.
     

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