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Breakfast with Norv

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by sdbound, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. sdbound

    sdbound Well-Known Member

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    Breakfast with Norv and Co.

    Posted Today at 09:15 AM by caseybolts

    Day 2 in Dana Point brought the AFC coaches media breakfast this morning with plenty of tidbits emmerging. It's a neat deal. All 16 AFC head coaches (well, 15 because Belichick isn't here this week) were stationed at tables around a small auditorium. Reporters made the rounds and sat down with coaches for about an hour.

    Denver's Josh McDainiels drew the biggest crowd with writers hovered three-deep around his table throughout the event. The Jay Cutler situation is by far the hottest story in the NFL, and McDainiels chatted about "his quarterback" for most of the morning. Who knows where this thing is going, but McDainiels and the Broncos say they're trying to work things out and that Cutler is their quarterback.

    I sat with Norv for about 30 minutes. Here are some of the highlights:

    -He gave an update on Shawne Merriman. Norv said Merriman is running on the field turf several times a week and is making great progress.

    -Norv was asked about the right side of his offensive line and praised the play of Jeromey Clary. I'll have his full comments in a story on Jeromey next week.

    -Kynan Forney, Corey Clark and Scott Mruczkowski will compete for the starting job at right guard. I asked about the potential of moving Clary inside and Norv didn't completely dismiss the idea but said with the way things currently sit, that's not in the plans.

    -Second-year players and some guys recovering from offseason surgeries started the offseason conditioning program Monday and 28 players showed up. Their veteran teammates will join them next Monday.

    -When talking about the AFC West, "change" was the key word. Tom Cable removes the interim tag in Oakland, McDainiels is the new guy in Denver and Todd Haley gives the division another new face in Kansas City. Lots of coordinator changes as well.

    -The best moment of the morning came at the conclusion of the breakfast. The head coaches of the original eight AFL franchises posed for photos with their team's throwback jerseys they'll wear this year (I'll have photos up soon. Think 1994, or 1963 if you remember that far).

    So Norv poses with an LT jersey, Haley with a Dewayne Bowe, ect. And McDaniels? Yup, a number 6. He hammed it up as he turned it around to reveal "Cutler" on the back. Great stuff!

    We'll have more news throughout the day.
     
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    sdbound Well-Known Member

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    Denver's uniforms are hideous
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  3. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    Yep, and they still are! :lol:
     
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  4. Sydalish

    Sydalish Addicted to Sports

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    Aw, don't be so hard on them. Not eveyone gets to look fly in powder blue :yes:

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  5. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Wow. Look at the jersey Norv is holding, it actually has the #'s and bolts the correct way the '63 jerseys did.

    Dammit, I'm gonna be broke agian this season buying gear. Want a white throwback soooooo bad....
     
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    Just for laughs, the 1960 Oakland 'Senòres'

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  7. Cheapseats

    Cheapseats Loud, proud Charger fan

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    I think those old Denver uniforms were rejected by Hot Dog on a Stick as being too ugly for their employees...of course the colors do match the contents of a baby's diaper.....and it is a Cutler jersey...I'm just sayin'.....
     
  8. Dublin Bolt

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    Jeff Fisher is doing his best Belichick impression. Talk about a guy who looks like he does not want to be there!. Smile Jeff!!!, FFS.

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  9. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    It should be a fun year with the old AFL throwbacks, I'm hoping that's it's finally our year to shine. If Norv get's off to another slow start I'll be very bummed out. There shouldn't any excuses this go around,
     
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    ...OMG..WTF were they thinking :icon_rofl:
     
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    The Denver Broncos debuted in 1960 with uniforms which were criticized largely by the public. This could be caused by the fact that they were really ugly uniforms which consisted of brown helmets, brown pants, jerseys with a white and mustard yellow color, and the infamous vertically striped socks.

    Two years after endless criticism, the club decided to get rid of their uniforms at a public occasion where they burned their uniforms together in a huge bonfire.
     
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    QB Frank Tripucka (#18) gets off pass to fellow Ring of Famer Lionel Taylor (#87) in early Bronco action (vs. Houston 11/6/1960).


    The story has it that, for the Broncos' inaugural season, general manager Dean Griffing purchased what were considered "compromise" uniforms, light colored jerseys and drab brown pants that could be worn at both home and away games. Reputed to be extremely frugal, Griffing reportedly bought these used uniforms from a defunct organization in Tucson, Arizona.

    Research indicates differing accounts as to the exact origin of the uniforms. Some sources have indicated that the uniforms were purchased from a defunct college bowl organization (see sidebar below), while coach Jack Faulkner has suggested that the uniforms came from an Arizona semi-pro organization—the Rattlers—with whom Griffing had been previously employed.

    Steve Brainerd, a minor league football historian from Tucson offers additional speculation. According to Brainerd's research, the Tucson Rattlers were organized in 1958 out of the remnants of the Tucson Cowboys who went defunct following the 1957 season. Dean Griffing, who served as the GM of the '58 Rattlers (a member team of the Pacific Football Conference), apparently, took the teams' gear as partial payment of moneys due after the team ceased operations. Brainerd further speculates that the uniforms worn by the Rattlers' might have been second-hand by the time they got them. Brainerd states, "There was also a college football allstar game in Tucson at the end of the 1957 season and it's possible that that is where Griffing got the uniforms to begin with as it (the all-star game) was a one shot deal and the committee got stuck with all (the uniforms)."

    In a 1974 interview, owner Gerald Phipps commented on the early uniforms saying, "We were the only team in the league that had the same uniforms on the road and at home. He (Griffing) figured out a color halfway between a white and dark jersey and only had to buy one set (Laughter.) We played with brown pants and a yellow jersey with brown numbers on it, and, of course, those vertical striped socks. That was it at home and on the road" (Connor, 1974, p. 6).

    Research suggests, however, that different uniforms were indeed worn for home and road games. It is accepted that the home jerseys were a pale yellow in color—a hue that has been referred to as "burnt gold." In spite of popular assertions that this was the only jersey color, both interviews (Tripucka, 1998; Hauser, 1999) as well as photographic evidence (Hession & Spence, 1987, p. 26; Marvez, 1999, pp. 2, 4, & 6)seem to support the fact that white/brown “road” jerseys and socks were also worn.

    The jerseys were likely constructed of a cotton-nylon Durene fabric and featured a crew neck and ¾-length sleeves (Tripucka, 1997). They were solid in color with no sleeve striping. Numbering and lettering were brown tackle twill.

    Pants were brown in color with one source indicating the color to be "seal" brown. Some had a satin sheen; some didn't. Trim included dual yellow stripes on the outseam, which appeared to be approximately ½" in width with about ½" spacing between. Helmets were also solid brown in color and had a single 1" white center stripe and white uniform numbers on the sides in a sans serif font. The most infamous feature of this uniform, however, was the vertically striped socks (See photo below).

    While a promotional bonfire staged at a 1962 intrasquad game claimed a number of the socks, the jerseys and pants remained in use for a number of years. A photo taken at training camp in 1964 shows players wearing the brown pants as well as both white and gold jerseys (Clarkson, 1998. p. 31). While their demise in the autumn bonfire has a more dramatic connotation, truth be told, like most uniforms of the day, these most likely continued to be worn for practice until no longer serviceable (probably until replaced with the next generation’s discards after the 1964 season) and then, unceremoniously found their way into a dumpster at the team’s headquarters.




    "The Most Ridiculous Things I Ever Saw"
    One summer night at Bears Stadium in 1962, the Denver Broncos paraded one by one past a mock-up of the Olympic flame and dropped the team’s vertically striped socks in the fire. It was a major victory for good taste, cheered on by a crowd of 8,377.

    The ceremony was new coach Jack Faulkner’s idea. He wanted everything associated with the Broncos’ dismal first two seasons gone, especially those socks. There were two sets: alternating brown and mustard yellow stripes for home games, brown and white for the road.

    "They were the most ridiculous things I ever saw in my life," says defensive tackle Bud McFadin.

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    The man responsible for them was Dean Griffing, the club’s first general manager. He was a legendary tightwad—"the kind of guy who took off his glasses when he wasn’t looking at anything," says broadcaster Bob Martin—and outfitted the Broncos with used uniforms purchased from the Copper Bowl College All-Star Game in Tucson, Arizona. The bizarre socks, he insisted, made the players appear taller.

    "They made you look like a peg is what they did," says safety Goose Gonsoulin. "You had these real broad shoulders because of the pads, and then you had these up-and-down striped socks.... It was unique, put it that way."

    Owner Bob Housman sold the club to Cal Kunz in 1961. Kunz got rid of Griffing and Filchock (head coach) after the season and hired Faulkner, who launched a campaign that promised: "There’s Lots New in ’62." He started with the uniforms. The hated socks were torched before an intrasquad game.

    A handful did escape the flames. One is on display at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Faulkner has a set hidden in a drawer somewhere. And several players are said to be holding a few. The cursed things are now worth $500.

    Daly, Dan & O’Donnell, Bob. The Pro Football Chronicle, 1990. pp. 179-180.
     
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    I always thought this period was pretty damn pathetic as well.

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