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Broncos, Chargers to play for all the marbles

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    DENVER -- No, Chargers fans, Ed Hochuli will not be officiating next week's game in San Diego.

    John Parry's crew is scheduled to work the winner-takes-all game between the Broncos and the Chargers. Hochuli should now be off the hook in the minds of San Diego fans. The Chargers are getting a second chance at the AFC West championship.

    Perhaps the weakest division in the NFL this season, the AFC West will be in the spotlight in Week 17 as Denver and San Diego play for the division crown next week and the right to face No. 5 seed Indianapolis in the wild-card round on the weekend of Jan 3-4. Because of the playoff implications, the game has been flexed to prime time Sunday night.

    The under-the-lights holiday affair was made possible by a Denver choke job at home against Buffalo, which had nothing to play for. Denver blew a 13-0 lead in the second quarter and ended up losing 30-2 to a team it dominated in nearly every key statistic.

    A win would have clinched Denver's first division championship in three years. San Diego had won earlier at Tampa Bay 41-24, setting up next week's clash. Denver players said they were unaware of the Chargers outcome until after their game.

    Two weeks ago, Denver was 8-5 and San Diego was 5-8. Yet, thanks to a three-game winning streak by the Chargers and back-to-back Broncos losses in games where a win would have clinched the division, it will be a dramatic Christmas week in the AFC West. If San Diego wins, it will win the division based on a better division record than Denver.

    The turn of events gives San Diego new life. Chargers fans have been up in arms since their team was the victim of an incorrect call by officials. In the final seconds of the team's first 2008 clash in Denver, Hochuli blew a call on a Cutler fumble that San Diego recovered. The Broncos then scored a touchdown and a two-point conversion to beat the Chargers, 39-38. The NFL later admitted that it was a blown call. "Hochuli" has essentially become a dirty word in San Diego ever since.

    Now, the Chargers, among the biggest disappointments in the NFL this season after being preseason Super Bowl contenders, have a chance at redemption. If Denver wins the division, it will become the fifth NFL team to go wire-to-wire without ever being tied for the division lead. That milestone looks tenuous at this point, though.

    The Chargers, who are in this position thanks to a wild comeback win at Kansas City in Week 15, will enter Sunday's game playing as well as they have all season.

    For Denver, this game is a shock to its system. Two weeks ago, the division looked like a done deal. And for much of Sunday it looked like a done deal. Now, Denver will head to San Diego as a clear underdog.

    The Broncos were trying to erase the Bills loss from their minds moments after the game and focus on their chance in San Diego.

    "It's been a roller coaster for us all year," Denver quarterback Jay Cutler said. "This is pretty normal for us. We win a few and then we lose a few ... It's par for the course at this point."

    Added Denver cornerback Champ Bailey: "Our season is still in front of us. We have a one-game chance in San Diego."

    Here are other key elements to Sunday's game:

    All passing Broncos: The Broncos, long a premier run-first outfit, threw the ball 45 times Sunday. They ran the ball 27 times.

    However, the major disparity came in the fourth quarter, when Cutler threw 22 times and the Broncos ran three times. One of the runs was by Cutler, who led Denver with eight carries.

    The Broncos' battered running game took another big hit Sunday when starter P.J. Pope went out in the first quarter with a hamstring injury. He didn't return and his status for Sunday's game is unknown. He is Denver's seventh injured tailback this season.

    Pope was running hard when he was hurt. He had 44 yards on six carries. Now, Denver's running backs are Tatum Bell and Selvin Young. It was clear in the second half that Denver coach Mike Shanahan doesn't trust either player to get tough yards.
    Denver has to find a way to get a running attack going at San Diego or it will have no chance.

    Red-faced in the red zone: A quick glance at the statistics from Sunday's game might make it look like Denver won easily. Denver outgained Buffalo 532 yards to 275. It owned the time of possession battle by six minutes, 22 seconds. It gained seven more first downs than Buffalo did.

    But the killer statistic for Denver was its lack of efficiency in the red zone. Buffalo scored touchdowns on three of its five trips inside Denver's 20-yard line. The Broncos, though, scored touchdowns on two of six trips to Buffalo's red zone. The Broncos had to settle for two short field goals in the first half.

    "Our inability to score touchdowns hurt us," said Denver receiver Brandon Stokley, who had the ball knocked from his hands on Denver's final play, a fourth-and-5 play in the end zone from Buffalo's 15 with 39 seconds remaining in the game.

    Bailey battles: Bailey was clearly not completely ready to play. He was playing for the first time after missing seven games with a torn groin.

    He had to leave the game twice. Bailey said there's no way he won't play against San Diego.

    "I have to," Bailey said. "I have to be out there next week."
     
  2. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    lookin' foward to this all year. Bring 'em on; we've got a somewhat-new-but-definitely-improved defense, all of the momentum, and even got some heart back. Denver is going down!
     
  3. sdbound

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    I want Cuddles to be the Broncos QB for a long, long time.
     
  4. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

    DENVER -- No, Chargers fans, Ed Hochuli will not be officiating next week's game in San Diego.

    John Parry's crew is scheduled to work the winner-takes-all game between the Broncos and the Chargers. Hochuli should now be off the hook in the minds of San Diego fans. The Chargers are getting a second chance at the AFC West championship.

    Perhaps the weakest division in the NFL this season, the AFC West will be in the spotlight in Week 17 as Denver and San Diego play for the division crown next week and the right to face No. 5 seed Indianapolis in the wild-card round on the weekend of Jan 3-4. Because of the playoff implications, the game has been flexed to prime time Sunday night.

    The under-the-lights holiday affair was made possible by a Denver choke job at home against Buffalo, which had nothing to play for. Denver blew a 13-0 lead in the second quarter and ended up losing 30-23 to a team it dominated in nearly every key statistic.

    A win would have clinched Denver's first division championship in three years. San Diego had won earlier at Tampa Bay 41-24, setting up next week's clash. Denver players said they were unaware of the Chargers outcome until after their game.

    Two weeks ago, Denver was 8-5 and San Diego was 5-8. Yet, thanks to a three-game winning streak by the Chargers and back-to-back Broncos losses in games where a win would have clinched the division, it will be a dramatic Christmas week in the AFC West. If San Diego wins, it will win the division based on a better division record than Denver.

    The turn of events gives San Diego new life. Chargers fans have been up in arms since their team was the victim of an incorrect call by officials. In the final seconds of the team's first 2008 clash in Denver, Hochuli blew a call on a Cutler fumble that San Diego recovered. The Broncos then scored a touchdown and a two-point conversion to beat the Chargers, 39-38. The NFL later admitted that it was a blown call. "Hochuli" has essentially become a dirty word in San Diego ever since.

    Now, the Chargers, among the biggest disappointments in the NFL this season after being preseason Super Bowl contenders, have a chance at redemption. If Denver wins the division, it will become the fifth NFL team to go wire-to-wire without ever being tied for the division lead. That milestone looks tenuous at this point, though.

    The Chargers, who are in this position thanks to a wild comeback win at Kansas City in Week 15, will enter Sunday's game playing as well as they have all season.

    For Denver, this game is a shock to its system. Two weeks ago, the division looked like a done deal. And for much of Sunday it looked like a done deal. Now, Denver will head to San Diego as a clear underdog.

    The Broncos were trying to erase the Bills loss from their minds moments after the game and focus on their chance in San Diego.

    "It's been a roller coaster for us all year," Denver quarterback Jay Cutler said. "This is pretty normal for us. We win a few and then we lose a few ... It's par for the course at this point."

    Added Denver cornerback Champ Bailey: "Our season is still in front of us. We have a one-game chance in San Diego."

    Here are other key elements to Sunday's game:

    All passing Broncos: The Broncos, long a premier run-first outfit, threw the ball 45 times Sunday. They ran the ball 27 times.

    However, the major disparity came in the fourth quarter, when Cutler threw 22 times and the Broncos ran three times. One of the runs was by Cutler, who led Denver with eight carries.

    The Broncos' battered running game took another big hit Sunday when starter P.J. Pope went out in the first quarter with a hamstring injury. He didn't return and his status for Sunday's game is unknown. He is Denver's seventh injured tailback this season.

    Pope was running hard when he was hurt. He had 44 yards on six carries. Now, Denver's running backs are Tatum Bell and Selvin Young. It was clear in the second half that Denver coach Mike Shanahan doesn't trust either player to get tough yards.

    Denver has to find a way to get a running attack going at San Diego or it will have no chance.

    Red-faced in the red zone: A quick glance at the statistics from Sunday's game might make it look like Denver won easily. Denver outgained Buffalo 532 yards to 275. It owned the time of possession battle by six minutes, 22 seconds. It gained seven more first downs than Buffalo did.

    But the killer statistic for Denver was its lack of efficiency in the red zone. Buffalo scored touchdowns on three of its five trips inside Denver's 20-yard line. The Broncos, though, scored touchdowns on two of six trips to Buffalo's red zone. The Broncos had to settle for two short field goals in the first half.

    "Our inability to score touchdowns hurt us," said Denver receiver Brandon Stokley, who had the ball knocked from his hands on Denver's final play, a fourth-and-5 play in the end zone from Buffalo's 15 with 39 seconds remaining in the game.

    Bailey battles: Bailey was clearly not completely ready to play. He was playing for the first time after missing seven games with a torn groin.

    He had to leave the game twice. Bailey said there's no way he won't play against San Diego.

    "I have to," Bailey said. "I have to be out there next week."

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    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-1160/Broncos--Chargers-to-play-for-all-the-marbles.html
     
  5. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    • The Chargers became the first visiting team to win in Tampa this season behind a 287-yard, four-touchdown, zero-interception performance from Philip Rivers. Rivers' four TDs are a career-high and his 136.7 passer rating is the second-best of his career on the road.

    • The Chargers won the turnover battle (3-0) and outscored the Bucs 21-0 in the fourth quarter.

    • Antonio Bryant has 127 receiving yards and a TD on six catches. In his last three games, Bryant has 23 catches for 435 yards and four TDs.

    • With the Bucs loss, the Panthers are the only NFL team undefeated at home this season.
     
  6. SDRaiderH8er

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    Hocalugi is not off the Hook.

    Had we won that game, we would of had the AFC West sewn up yesterday!
     
  7. clontarf_bolt

    clontarf_bolt Well-Known Member

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    I knw dude but lets just go in and prove to everybody that it should be ours regardless of terrible decision making!

    We can safely say the ponce wont be coming near a Bolt game any time soon so we're good! :tup:
     
  8. SDRaiderH8er

    SDRaiderH8er Well-Known Member

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    there are a lot of media types that are saying that same thing, Ed Hochuli is off the hook!


    We will take matters into our hands Sunday Night!!!!!!!!


    Denver should of took it when they had the chance, but then they were too stupid to understand that!
     
  9. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    I prefer winning the west this way. It will demoralize broco fans and the team. Could lead to Shanarat's retirement.

    Lets go with it and see what happens. We cant help the calls that went against us, but we can over come!
     
  10. clontarf_bolt

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    Well in that case your right, he isn't off the hook!! Hopefully tho they'll bring in some rules soon to combat whatever the hell went on in that ridiculous game:icon_evil:
     
  11. tymak

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    Is it possible to get the powder blues for the biggest game of the season??
     
  12. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Possible yes, but the Chargers could face a fine by the NFL. You are supposed to notify the NFL at least 5 weeks in advance of any uniform changes.

    However in '94 the 49'ers played all season in their throwbacks and the NFL declined to fine them.

    I would suggest the fans write or call the Chargers if they feel strong enough about the throwbacks.
     
  13. clontarf_bolt

    clontarf_bolt Well-Known Member

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    That would be sweet!

    I asked Bucnasty if we could and he said we've already worn them twice so we cant wear it anymore, but psssh wats a fine amoung friends?! :icon_twisted:
     
  14. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    We've got the chance to win regardless and if we lose then hochuli won't mean jack squat since we had teh opportunity right there in our hands
     
  15. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    We do not have throwbacks, we have alternates.
     
  16. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    whuuuuteverrrrrrr....:lol:
     
  17. montanabolthead

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    Shanarat is running out of people to blame for the Donko's tanking every season. It would be sweet to see him canned.
     
  18. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    Just being accurate. Our throwbacks f*cking rule, it's too bad we don't have them anymore.
     
  19. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    We still have them, we always will, we just don't wear them anymore.

    Just being accurate.



    :icon_rofl:

    And I say **** the fine, wear 'em.
     
  20. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    Marty just said on Sirius NFL Radio that the Broncos have "NO CHANCE" of beating the Chargers next week.

    He also said Philip is playing as well as Peyton Manning right now and "make no mistake about it"... the quarterback is the key to winning in the playoffs.

    :tup:
     
  21. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    We never did. You hold onto the old throwbacks as if they were some historically accurate rendition. They were not! They changed every year and were not even the original color ever.

    Go and look. Look for pictures of the teams in them for each year and you will see what you continue to gripe about is nothing. The throwbacks have changed just about each and every year we have had them.

    We know you don't like the new uniforms, but perhaps the B4L'esque rants against them have outlived their usefulness... :icon_rofl:

    J/K, I couldn't resist!
     
  22. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    I always loved / hated Marty :lol:
     
  23. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    Yes, they aren't identical, but they were pretty much the same thing. The term "throwbacks" when applied to any team means unis that look like the teams old gear. The new powder blue unis are not throwbacks in any sense of the word.

    And, I only bring it up in response to other posts, I have not started a thread about it in well over a year. This is probably the first time I have brought it up in many months. Had you not incorrectly called the current powder blue alternate jerseys throwbacks, I wouldn't have said anything.

    Please don't ever compare me to B4L. :lol:
     
  24. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    I do, maybe you do, but the team doesn't.
     
  25. wrbanwal

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    THE DONKS SUCK!!






    THAT IS ALL




    :bolt::bolt::bolt:
     
  26. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Fine! Buzzkill! :icon_rofl:
     
  27. Carrie1219

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    Chris Berman made a point of saying that the bad Hochuli call was now a moot point because the Bolts and Broncos were going to meet again to determine the division title.

    I was thinking, WTF? Had Hochuli not made that call, we would have won the division yesterday. Now we have to win the next game in order to claim the title. :icon_shrug:

    Hochuli's bad call will only be a moot point when we win the division.
     
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  28. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    You got it Carrie :tup:
     
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    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    Word....


     
  30. maestro876

    maestro876 BoltTalker

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    Do we really want Shanny fired?

    If Bowlen did away with him, they might find someone halfway competent to replace him with.

    I was happy when we got Kiffin tossed out of Oakland, because he was making the Raiders better. I'm not so sure that Shanny is making the Broncos better.
     

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