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Broncos | Cutler upset

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  1. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    Video of Josh McDaniels sending Jay Cutler home...
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    I think Bowlen has a lot more to do with all of this than is being reported.
     
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    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    This makes me smile.

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  5. CoronaDoug

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    Look at it this way.... We all don't like Cutler but the dude does have some talent. Who will come into Denver and replace him? I guarantee whoever it is he will not be any better. This only helps us win games within our division. I thought that we would be fighting it out with Denver again this year but it looks like we won't have any competition within our division. The Raiders just might come in second place this year. :lol:
     
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    The HILLS ARE ALIVE...................


    WITH THE SOUNDS OF MUSIC!!!!​
     
  7. CoronaDoug

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    SOURCE: COOK WANTS NEW CONTRACT FOR CUTLER
    Posted by Mike Florio on March 16, 2009, 11:34 a.m.
    With none of the top quarterbacks in the draft pool picking him to be their agent, Bus Cook had to find a way to get his name into the NFL conversation in the weeks leading up to the 2009 version of the rookie selection process.

    What better way to do it than to demonstrate his power and influence to the quarterback class of 2010 by forcing a trade of Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler?

    Dan Patrick said on the Monday edition of his show that Cook recently responded to a report from Peter King that Cutler had asked for a trade before the possibility of trading Cutler ever arose with the time-honored non-denial denial: “Not that I know of.”

    We’re now convinced that Cook is the primary instigator of Cutler’s discontent — and also the primary impediment to a meaningful coach-player meeting that could resolve the situation and keep Cutler around.

    King told Patrick on Monday that coach Josh McDaniels still wants to have a one-on-one meeting with Cutler.

    In other words, McDaniels wants to be able to talk to Cutler without Cook sticking his nose into the discussion, saying and doing things that will prevent Cutler’s currently stubborn resolve from weakening.

    Indeed, a league source tells us that Cook’s idea for solving the current impasse was — what else? — a fat new contract for Cutler. If the Broncos aren’t willing to give Cutler a new deal, then Cook and Cutler want to be traded.

    Cook is a West Virginia native, so we’d ordinarily be inclined to give him the Pat White treatment. In this case, we can’t. Cook has been at the center of too many unnecessary controversies, and he has failed to use his tremendous influence over his clients to persuade them to find a way to make things work. Instead, Cook has thrived of late on destroying existing relationships, for no apparent strategic reason other than to get his name in the paper.

    That said, it’s not too late for the Broncos to take control of the situation. As pointed out in our latest SportingNews.com item, the Bengals did it last year with Chad Johnson, and the Cardinals did it last year (and might do it again this year) with Anquan Boldin. When a player is under contract for three more seasons, the team (not the player) has the power to determine whether the player will be traded or released before those three years expire.
    http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
     
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    I hope they tell him to suck it up, or ride the pine. :yes:
     
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    Losing pretty Cutler making winning ugly Plummer look great

    March 16, 2009
    By Clark Judge

    So now Jay Cutler is mad as hell and sure looks like he's not going to take it in Denver anymore. Great. Almost makes you wish the Broncos never disposed of Jake Plummer, huh?

    Well, it does me. If ever there was a quarterback done wrong it was poor Jake. He didn't throw the tightest spiral. He took too many chances. And he threw unnecessary interceptions. He was booed at home, booed on the road and shredded weekly by the hometown media for his flaws. In short, he was embraced like the Avian flu.

    So what's to like? This: He was 40-18 as a starter. All the guy did was win.

    He took the Broncos to the playoffs in 2003. He did it again in 2004. He had them in the 2005 AFC Championship Game. Yet he was gone two seasons later, shuffled off to Tampa Bay to make way for Cutler, the second coming of John Elway. Only, he's not. He's not even the second coming of Jake Plummer, and, no, I don't care that he throws a fast ball like Randy Johnson or that his right arm can launch space shuttles.

    I want someone who can win, and Jay Cutler is 17-20 as a starter, failing to reach the playoffs in his NFL career. Plummer not only got there three of his four seasons in Denver, he took the Cardinals to the playoffs in 1998, their first appearance in a non-strike year in over two decades.

    Denver never had a losing season under Plummer. It hasn't had a winning season under Cutler. Draw your own conclusions. I have, and they go something like this: Plummer knew how to win; Cutler knows how to throw a pretty pass. I know which I'd rather have.

    When the Broncos drafted Cutler they were coming off a 13-3 season where they beat New England and were one win from the Super Bowl. But after losing to Pittsburgh in the conference championship game, coach Mike Shanahan decided he could go no deeper into the playoffs with Plummer. So he traded up for Cutler.

    For Plummer, the message was clear: His get-out-of-Denver ticket had just been punched, and Cutler would succeed him in no more than a year. Anything short of the Super Bowl wouldn't matter for Plummer, who could take his 40-18 record somewhere else and watch what could have been.

    Plummer didn't sulk. He didn't demand to be traded. He didn't threaten to move. And he never asked to meet with his head coach or demand an explanation.

    "Jay is going to be a hell of a player," Plummer told me that summer, "but, hopefully, when his time is right. Until that time I'm going to be the one taking the snaps.

    "Fans always like change. I understand that. It's almost like having an old girlfriend. You always think the pasture may be greener on the other side. But until Jay is ready they're going to have to deal with me."

    Now that's what I want to hear from my quarterback. Don't tell me your feelings are hurt. Don't go running to your realtor. And don't mention the name Matt Cassel because if you're more concerned about what is beyond your control -- and, contrary to what he might think, Jay Cutler is not running this show -- you're doomed as a quarterback.

    Of course, Jay Cutler is not doomed. He has a long career ahead of him, and he has a world of talent. What he doesn't have is the guts of Jake Plummer, and too bad. He could learn something from his predecessor. In fact, the more I hear Cutler whine the more I'm convinced Denver owes Plummer an apology.

    He didn't score many style points while he was there; he just won. For some reason, that wasn't enough. So he was sliced, diced and spliced by his critics. Cutler, on the other hand, is cut a break ... and for what? He took over his rookie season when the Broncos were 7-4 and lost three of five starts. No problem there. Rookie quarterbacks struggle. But then he was 7-9 in his second season and 8-8 in his third. Worse, the Broncos positively self-destructed last year, blowing a three-game lead with three weeks to go.

    Yeah, I know, it wasn't Cutler's fault. It might have helped if Denver had a running back who could stay in the lineup for three weeks or a defense that didn't leak like the Titanic. But all the Broncos had to do was win one freakin' game in three tries, and they couldn't pull it off. Blame the defense all you want, but look what Cutler did down the stretch: Nothing.

    In his last three games he had two touchdown passes and four interceptions. Worse, he lost to Buffalo at home on the next to last weekend of the season. I don't want to hear how he threw for 359 yards or 316 the next weekend against San Diego. He didn't win. Period. End of story.

    So his defense stunk. Kurt Warner's defense in Arizona wasn't all that great, either. And the Cardinals' running game was worse than Denver's. In fact, it was worse than everyone. But Arizona pulled the mother of all upsets by winning the NFC and coming within 45 seconds of knocking off Pittsburgh in Super Bowl XLIII. Warner overcame the club's shortcomings because that is what good quarterbacks are supposed to do.

    Cutler is acknowledged as one of the game's top young quarterbacks, yet he can't overcome much of anything. And that is a problem. He can complain about Philip Rivers, but I know which one I'd trust in the clutch :lol: -- and it's not Cutler. He can complain about his new head coach, too, but this just in, Jay: Josh McDaniels didn't draft you; Mike Shanahan did. And while I don't agree with how this was handled -- or mishandled -- it is a reminder to Cutler to wake up and realize the NFL is a business.

    It is also evidence that Cutler might not be the quarterback we thought he was. So he lives in the shadow of Elway. Big deal. So did Jake Plummer. In fact, Plummer was closer to the Elway era than Cutler, so the contrasts were more apparent. He didn't throw like Elway, but he did find a way to win -- and isn't that how we measure our quarterbacks?

    When, at last, Plummer was dismissed by the Broncos, he didn't cry or rant about the decision. He simply retired, exiled by a team and a city that didn't appreciate him.

    Cutler was supposed to be an improvement on Plummer, but while he has the measureables -- the size, the big arm, the accuracy -- he's as short on the intangibles as he is on victories. The guy needs to toughen up and drop his woe-is-me mantra. If he can't get over what happened here, how does he demonstrate to teammates that he is resilient; that he is someone they can trust when their world is crumbling? And how does he prove he can shut out everything around him on the field when he can shut nothing out now? More to the point, how does he prove he can beat San Diego without the help of referee Ed Hochuli? :lol:

    Maybe he can't. Maybe we should face facts and realize that while he's no John Elway he may be no Jake Plummer, either.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11510371
     
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    That's a great story!! :tup:
     
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    Cook is no top chef in Jay-C mess

    By Mark Kiszla

    The Denver Post

    Mar 22:

    Goodell won't step in to solve Cutler messPaige: Griese can identify with Cutler's plightBowlen staying out of dramaGrown men drool in wonder at Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, as if his throwing right arm was the caboose of Jennifer Lopez or Angelina Jolie's sexy lips.

    Of course, we all know a grown man doesn't always think with his brain.

    For example: If Cutler has anything more than a Beatles haircut between his ears, our disgruntled quarterback would come to his senses and do something smart for a change.

    Cutler should fire Bus Cook, the two-fisted, money-grubbing agent who has Cutler wrapped around his finger like a puppet and seems to enjoy yanking the chain of Broncos owner Pat Bowlen.

    While earning free publicity at the expense of Cutler's good name... hold on a minute...:icon_rofl:...Cook has wrecked the working relationship between Jay-C and Denver to the point of no repair, if you're asking me.

    But that's not even the saddest part of this NFL soap opera.

    Cutler has been brainwashed by Cook to believe this 25-year-old player is far better than the impressive 4,526 yards passing and 25 touchdown passes he produced last season.

    Broncomaniacs are panicking with the mistaken impression Cutler's 17-20 record in Denver somehow qualifies him as a franchise quarterback to be retained at any cost.

    And it has been screamed new Broncos coach Josh McDaniels is doomed to failure, or should be fired on the spot, if he dares trade an unhappy camper who wants out of Denver.

    Well, hate to be the one to introduce a heaping teaspoon of reality to this hysteria, but Mr. Cutler is not yet the quarterback that Cook would have you or his misguided client believe.

    Unless you grade on a generous curve, the list of franchise quarterbacks in the NFL has only three names on it: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger.

    No other signal-caller in this league is guaranteed tomorrow. Just ask Drew Brees, who has averaged 4,636 passing yards and 29 TD passes in three seasons with New Orleans since being pushed out the door by San Diego. Or Kurt Warner, who packed up two MVP trophies and wandered from St. Louis to New York, before finding happiness again in the Arizona desert.

    You want to tell me Cutler is a more accomplished QB than Brees or Warner? Dream on.

    Before being condemned for hating on Cutler, let me remind I lobbied for Denver to draft him, predicted he would start games as a rookie and proclaimed a Pro Bowl invitation would come his way sooner rather than later.

    When the dude tells us Denver is no longer the right place for him to work, I not only take Cutler at his word, but trust his football instincts.

    Not long ago, there was a Broncos quarterback who made the Pro Bowl, got a championship ring as a gift and was favorably compared to Joe Montana by his coach, all by the time he was 25 years old.

    Anybody consider Brian Griese a franchise quarterback now?

    McDaniels might have graduated from the Bill Belichick Charm School, and the clumsy way the young coach unnecessarily stepped on Cutler's toes makes me believe Kid McD won't ever be appearing on "Dancing with the Stars."

    But trust this: McDaniels knows quarterbacks.

    So if the man considered trading Cutler for Matt Cassel and then lied about it, maybe there was a more essential truth McDaniels was trying to hide.

    Cutler, with a reliance on arm strength that borders on narcissism, a tendency to pout in defeat and a track record that proves what he has done in college and the NFL is post gaudy statistics for bad teams, has a long way to go before he is a franchise

    Cutler does possess the talent to be one of the five best quarterbacks in the league.

    Cutler, however, also has a large ego an agent could lead around the NFL, forever in search of greener pastures and paychecks, at the expense of success defined by the scoreboard.

    My honest thought is if a coach and quarterback both as great as Dan Reeves and John Elway were not meant to be together, then why should McDaniels and Cutler try to pretend they like each other?

    There are enough NFL general managers who drool at the sight of Cutler's arm that the Broncos should be able to trade him for a promising young QB for McDaniels to groom and at least one valuable draft pick to rebuild Denver's sorry defense.

    But if Cutler really wants to make it to the Super Bowl as a member of the Broncos, if he truly loves Denver as much as many loyal fans love him, if the quarterback wants to prove me wrong and show how a fractured relationship with McDaniels can be mended, then let the work begin.

    How to start?

    Fire Cook, the agent giving Cutler bad advice.
     
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    'graduated from the Bill Belichick Charm School":lol:
     
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    But Cutler has diabetes, remember. Just be sure you get that Jay is a diabetic pro bowler. Now you can't hate him!
     
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    Cuddles is doing everything he can to nitpick his way out of Denver.

    I don't believe the "they tried to trade me" excuse, I think he really just wants out because he doesn't like it there, otherwise he'd act like a grown *** man and make it work.

    What a *****.
     
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    He is still butthurt over Shanarat and the oc (whatever the f his name was) getting fired.
     
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    Yeah! The guy's just 'honest', and saying what he really thinks! How can you fault him for that? :icon_shrug:

    I understand, all right. Cutler is just plain honestly a complete putz. :tup:
     
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    Philip Rivers would never behave this way :icon_party:
     
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    That's because PR is a MAN (a very handsome man :wub:) and Cutler is a child. :yes:
     
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    Cutler retreats further, forfeits $100K bonus


    Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler has forfeited a $100,000 workout bonus by missing more thant 10 percent of his team’s offseason conditioning program, the Denver Post reported in its Monday edition.

    The newspaper, citing Cutler’s friends as sources, also reports that the embattled quarterback has left his offseason home in Nashville for another U.S. destination. The paper declined to name Cutler’s latest place of residence.

    With the workout bonus already forfeited, the next opportunity for a Cutler appearance in Denver is at the team’s first minicamp, April 17-19. But that appears a longshot now with both sides seemingly far apart in smoothing things over.


    Cuddles has the muturity of a 13 year old girl.
     
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    Hey! Don't insult 13 year old girls like that!!


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    ok that's funny :icon_toast:
     

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