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Bungling Bolts better wise up before it’s too late

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Blue Bolt, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Bungling Bolts better wise up before it’s too late
    Written by Nick Canepa
    6:59 p.m., Sept. 19, 2011

    The Chargers are going to clean it up. The Chargers are going to clean it up. Hey, Norv, that record is broken. Put on the flip side — or turn it off. I’m tired of hearing it.

    Just how do you clean up dumb? Where’s the switch for smart?

    Once again, the Chargers are going to do this late-summer cleaning, you know, just as they were going to last year, when they were Stooges-stupid. They are going to eliminate their dumb, by gum, if it’s the last thing they do — and at the rate they’re going, many of them may not get that chance.

    What are they to do, bring in dozens of psychological custodians? Hire Nobel laureates to tutor them? Call FEMA? Dr. Phil?

    If you weren’t convinced before, then you knew following their 35-21 loss Sunday at New England. When they play an NFL team at least as good as they are (the Patriots’ roster certainly is no more skilled than theirs, unless you take in Wonderlic scores), they get beat because they’re overwhelmed with painful bouts of brain flatulence.

    I don’t care who the head coach is. I don’t care if it’s Norv Turner, Tina Turner, Ted Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Marty Caswell or Lex Luthor. The Chargers are never, ever, going to the Super Bowl until the whole lot of them wise up and just play their game, do what they’re supposed to do and quit trying to be something they’re not.

    Four turnovers in Foxborough.

    OK, eliminate the last one, when quarterback Philip Rivers was stripped from behind. It was meaningless.

    The interception of Rivers’ swing pass to tailback Mike Tolbert by enormous nose tackle Vince Wilfork, who did a Patton, swinging away from one battle to head for Bastogne, was almost impossible. “It was a fluke play,” head coach (Norv) Turner said.

    Dumb came after that, when Chargers corner Antoine Cason didn’t cover the sideline and allowed two quick completions in eight seconds and the Pats kicked a field goal as the first half expired to go up 20-7. Gift three points.

    In the third quarter, Rivers was off-balance and tried to get the ball to tight end Antonio Gates, who was shut out for the day (which wasn’t necessarily a bad thing, by the way). It was picked by Sergio Brown inside the 10. No need to force it there.

    “I wish I had that one back,” Rivers said.

    That’s four interceptions in two games for Philip, not like him. How to fix it?

    “You don’t throw it to ’em,” he said. “It’s that simple. I don’t throw it to ’em very often.”

    He doesn’t. Nor does 243-pound tailback Tolbert try be Gale Sayers, but he did, just once, and it was costly.

    After Pats genius Bill Belichick made the huge blunder of going for it on fourth-and-4 near midfield and failing (I don’t care if his punter was hurt; there must be 46 players on a team that can pooch punt), Tolbert, his team now trailing 20-14, took the handoff on a second-and-5 at the Pats’ 34 and headed forward, where there was a little room. He stopped, backed up, and linebacker Jerod Mayo forced the turnover.

    They were not going to recover from that remarkable lapse in judgment from a good player who knows his primary directions are north and south.

    And I don’t have enough space to get fully into all the mistakes the defense made, especially in the secondary, where Cason and $40-million-safety Eric Weddle didn‘t have their sharpest days. But we can get into defensive coordinator Greg Manusky’s using the three-man rush so often against Tom Brady, which I consider suicidal.

    “Miami rushed six and seven guys against them and gave up huge plays,” Turner said. “New England spread things out so much. Maybe it was picking our poison.”

    Sorry, if you don’t pressure Brady, especially from the middle, it’s curtains. The Chargers have better players than Miami. I think it was dumb. So there.

    Go ahead and blame Turner, but since the hour training camp opened, his constant theme has been protect the football. He’s not coaching these players to make mistakes. What he has to do is get his guys to play within themselves, communicate and smarten up.

    Without these errors, despite the offensive onslaught, they probably win that game (they punted once). Forget about Gates not getting any numbers. If teams are going to smother him and allow Vincent Jackson 10 catches for 172 yards and two scores, that’s better than Antonio can do on his best afternoon.

    “I’m not jumping to any conclusions after one game,” Turner said.

    My conclusion is that Rivers can say, “We’re going to have a great year,” but if they don’t start playing like educated adults, they’ll be sitting in the corner wearing dunce caps once again come February.

    nick.canepa@uniontrib.com (619) 293-1397 • Twitter @sdutcanepa
     
  2. Drunk

    Drunk Well-Known Member

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    we win it all this year.
     
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  3. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Rivers has been off his game, he better turn it on quick because this is the easiest part of our schedule and we need to come out unscathed.
     
  4. FCBolt

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    #justnorvbeingnorv
     
  5. NORV4LIFE

    NORV4LIFE NO MORE NORV!!!!!

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    maybe having 6 kids is catching up with him. Its gotta be tough, since im sure he's trying to be a good parent unlike cromartie who walked out on his 11 kids!
     
  6. SDRaiderH8er

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    it was because they did not use the Thunderhammer
     
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  7. Dublin Bolt

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    11!?, wow. It could be 12 before sunday.
     
  8. Buck Blincoe

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    And that's by at least seven different women...correct?
     
  9. bigmike.x.09

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    Something like that. I think it was 7 kids, 6 women in 5 different states :alien:
     
  10. Buck Blincoe

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    Gotta hand it to the guy...he knows how to get laid all across the country....maybe some nasty pass receiver like VJ can somehow put a real hurt on his nutsack and neuter this wanton baby-maker.
     
  11. PanchoX1

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    Rivers has 6 kids? Wow, I didn't know that.

    Anyway, he played a sloppy game, Tolbert's mistake was costly and still, they had a shot to pull it out. I'm hopeful for a great season and post season but yeah, no more games like that. I haven't seen the Chargers play that lousy in a long time. A bit of the week one win hangover and overconfidence perhaps? Maybe another reminder of how the humble pie tasted at the end of last season will light the fire for the next few weeks.....
    Maybe.
     
  12. bigmike.x.09

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    True that and I'm not sure if I've said this but welcome aboard the Bolt Talk crazy train!
     
  13. Skuzzlebutt

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    I'd like to know who is to blame for the stupid sequence at the end of the first half.

    Was it Norv/Manusky for ultimate drop back prevent or Cason for bad coverage?

    Seems like Cason and Jammer or our OLB should have been playing a shallow zone on the sidelines while everyone else helped over the top. Don't bother with run or middle defense.

    That was the most angering thing in the game next to Tolbert's fumble IMO.
     
  14. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    All the above.

    Win as a team lose as a team.
     
  15. Skuzzlebutt

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    True, there is a big difference between the two options:

    Either the coaches called a good play that the players didn't execute or the players followed orders and executed a terrible play call.

    FYI, here is Nick Canepa's response to my question on the topic:

    "My understanding is that Cason backed off when he shouldn't have."

    To me, if true, this is just another example of undisciplined players. Of course, you can still blame the coaches for not instilling the discipline...
     
  16. Concudan

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    I dont see a difference. If you want to say that a player is undisciplined, then should that not be reviewed and corrected in film study? Is not the film study not the area of both coach and player?

    One mistake is understandable. If it continues that is on ALL. No way around that.

    If a player makes a bad play, well, they have how many seconds to read everything that is going on and make a judgement? What I read yesterday is that there was a distinct lack of communication on the field for the defense. That is both players and coaches, with a highlight on the defensive captain.
     
  17. Blue Bolt

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    I blame the parents. ;)
     
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    Dr. Spock, is that you? ;)
     
  19. LaDeezie21

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    I stopped watching after the first half. I've seen that game many times before and had no interest in enduring 3 hours of grown men making moronic mistakes and shooting themselves in the foot. There are just some teams the Chargers can't beat. New England is one of those team.s
     
  20. Workplay

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    Bulls**t. Without those stupid plays, we beat them. Wait for the playoffs.
     
  21. LaDeezie21

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    Problem is that the players always commit those stupid plays...guaranteed!

    Come on man how many times does a friggin 400 pound man get a pick? Stuff like that always happens when the Chargers play the Pats. I used to believe man, but the bolts have proved to me time and time again that they will always choke against them. Kind of like how the Chargers always get the best of the Colts. It's just one of those things.
     
  22. Skuzzlebutt

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    What have we seen over the past 5 years to tell us we won't make those stupid mistakes every time? Fool me once, blah blah blah, fool me 5 times?!?
     
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    I usually don't care for Nick but this made me lol. I just might give Norv a break
     
  24. bigmike.x.09

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    I think it's because we are't using the Thunderhammer.
     
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  25. Sandolf

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    That article doesn't say much of significance other than perhaps Conc deserves a shot a Canepa's job.
     
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    No thanks. I dont have a thick enough skin to take that level of flak...
     
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    Most of his punishment seems to be self-inflicted.
     
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    Semblances to what I have been told as well... :roflmao:
     
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