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Calvin Johnson = Phenom (check this out!)

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by matilack, Feb 15, 2007.

  1. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    We need this guy. AJ would do good to just sacrifice a few first day picks to trade up for Calvin.

    Somthin like, 1st rounder + 1st rounder(Turner) +3rd + 6th.
    Just throwin it out there.
     
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  2. Boltjolt

    Boltjolt Well-Known Member

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    He was on NFLNetwork last night and said he would run a 4.4 or better.

    Great talent but i dont know if id give up all those picks for him.
     
  3. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Yo, what if hes the next Jerry Rice?

    The guy will put our offense over the top! And its not like were in rebuild mode right now like Clevleand or Detroit.

    Its time to take a risk, we got the team rebuilt now. Time to stop thinking to far ahead and go for the Super Bowl right now!:abq2:
     
  4. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    I sooooooo want him
     
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  5. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Its definantly not time to worry about rebuilding or preserving. Its time to go for a super bowl. I want him too!:tup:
     
  6. DjChemical

    DjChemical BoltTalker

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    AJ is too much a tight *** to do anything that would put him in a chargers uni
     
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  7. Boltjolt

    Boltjolt Well-Known Member

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    I dont know. He is about the only one i would give up picks for in this draft. I wouldnt give up that for Landry but Calvin.....thats a lot to give up. Maybe some of those picks can be for the next years draft. We DO have some other needs to fill.

    I doubt AJ would want the first pick. If he were there around 7 he may think about it but seeing AJ trade all that for one player i have a hard time believeing but you never know.
     
  8. Daddy_O

    Daddy_O Well-Known Member

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    Is that a "man crush"?

    What a hussie.:lol:
     
  9. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    How bout we ditch Kiel and sign Michael Lewis to play SS for us? That problem would be solved so we wouldnt need Landry,or Meriweather.

    If we resign Dielman we have no gaping holes on O-line.

    I think its totally reasonable. Give Cleveland or Tampa or Detroit what they want(within reason) and fit the last piece of the puzzle.:yes:
     
  10. BoltzRule

    BoltzRule Well-Known Member

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    He's the only person I'd consider trading up for, but I don't think AJ will, especially if we don't re-sign Dielman. I know we're not in rebuilding mode but we all know AJ prefers building through the draft and I think him giving up the amount of picks it would take would be too much for him and I can't really blame him.
     
  11. reef shark

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    i like the lewis idea. i hope word gets to smith that meriweather should not ever come to sd. not only does he have character issues (see him stomping on fiu players), but he is barely 5' 10", and hes probly lucky to be 190 lbs (very overlisted). hes quick but hes not even worth a 5th round pick to me. nelson would be a much better fit here imo
     
  12. BoltsFanUK

    BoltsFanUK Well-Known Member

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    He's an excellent tallent and he doesn't deserve to go to the Bucs.

    We should try and pull out all the stops to get this guys:tup:
     
  13. !~BOLT~!

    !~BOLT~! Well-Known Member

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    thats the only kid in the entire draft id be willing to give anything up for. seems every year the first round talent is more diluted, and the all star talent really stands out amung the overpaid 20 year olds that follow.
     
  14. in_a_days

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    :no:

    No way I want us betting the farm on a rookie WR. Considering the vast number of WRs that have entered the league in the history of the NFL, the probability that Calvin Johnson will be the next Jerry Rice isn't even worth mentioning. Just look at how few first round WRs have been really extraordinary in the last several years. He's got great numbers, sure, but WRs potential in the NFL is pretty much impossible to gague. Definatly not worth the risk.
     
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  15. Electric Chair

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    You like AJ's tight ***? :icon_eek:
     
  16. Alpenbolt

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    He will go to Detroit and you will never hear from him again. Happens every year.

    No wide receivers until the third round.
     
  17. BoltzRule

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    I see him at the level of Andre Johnson, Roy Williams, Larry Fitzgerald, but yea there's always the risk of him becoming a bust like Charles Rogers.
     
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    Nails post. Nice to see a voice of reason popping up amongst all the "let's switch to a 4-3 and dominate" posts, now augmented by the gohosts of Beathard posting "let's trade this years and next years firsts, plus Turner, for a rook wide out. . ."

    And I thought last years' offseason was long. I would consider trying to snatch up Okoye if a very marginal deal was worked (like moving up just a few slots) to nab him. He is a potential long term replacement for JW and they don't come along often.

    WR we need, I know, but there is plenty of depth there. Safety is a need though I expect AJ won't pick one up in round 1 unless the slot fits the player.
     
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    AJ would never do it. Especially with the success of seventh-rounder WR Marques Colston in New Orleans. We already have three big endzone targets in Gates, Floyd, and VJ. We just need speed. Why not pickup Donte Stallworth? He proved himself in Philly last year?
    :icon_toast:
     
  20. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Not gonna happen. Clear your minds young padawans, attachment leads to the dark side.

    QFT
     
  21. foober

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    He'll be as good as larry fitzgerald. Anyone notice how good Arizona is doing. And thats after going after wr's early almost every year. Check out detroit as well who goes after wr's early almost every year.

    Anyone figuring out what wins games in the nfl. Wr's are a minor part.

    If the chargers are smart they'll land a good wr in free agency. EIther bennett or Curtis would be my choices.
     
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    Again... I shall point out how costly it is to trade up in the draft. Especially as high as some of you wish to trade up to land the likes of a Calvin Johnson. We'd essentially be giving away multiple 1st round picks (which AJ is pretty money with), for a guy who isn't even really proven on the NFL level. Sure he's a great talent, but I'm not sure he's worth 3 + players. At the bare minimum, it would cost the Chargers 2007 1st round pick, 1st round pick from Turner trade (hypothetical), and our 2008 1st round pick... just to give you an idea.
     
  23. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Tell that to Philip Rivers after Eric Parker and Vincent Jackson dropped at least 4 1st downs agaisnt the Pats.

    Tell that to LT who is constantly running against 8 and 9 in the box because we have no deep threat.

    Imagine if we had a guy like that, imagine if the D could only stack 6 or 7 against LT and had to cover Gates and CJ and Vjack! We would never lose.
     
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    And you think a rookie will do better. I've seen calvin johnson drop passes in the games I've watched.

    Far better to get a proven wr in free agency. Curtis or bennett would be my choices.

    And were still loosing close games because of our pass defense not how our offense is doing. Though it would be nice to find another good wr this offseason. And another good o-lineman. Whats hurting our offense more than anything is Oliveas inabiltiy to stop outside pass rushers.
     
  25. foober

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    At least your getting better at figuring out what makes a good wr. CAlvin is smart. And he'll be a good one. But as far as the chargers go it would still be far smarter getting a wr in free agency and a developmental one later in the draft.
     
  26. Boltjolt

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    Curtis or Drew Benett would be better?

    C-mon Foober....Bennett isnt anything to get excited about. Who ever spends big money on him is High!
    Curtis is fast but hasnt proved to be a legit starter in the NFL. Neither of those guys has near the talent Calvin has.

    I know you dont like WR's but to downgrade all WR'severy year is kind of ridiculous dont you think? Arizona has a great bunch of WR's but they had a crappy HC, a bad OL and a bad defense.

    When you make bad decisions like away a top 6 pick for two lower first rounders and reach big time for a player like Calvin Pace who is now a backup for them...you arent making good draft decisions.

    OT is usually the safest bet in the draft but AZ managed to pick a slug in Leonard Davis with the 2nd overall that year.

    They just dont draft well till the past couple of years.
     
  27. foober

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    So your against getting a good wr thats already adjusted to the nfl.

    And would rather gamble big time on a rookie.
     
  28. foober

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    Possibly. Curtis or bennett have proven they can do the job. CAlvin johnson may be good someday. But its up in the air when that will be.

    Plus there is no way the chargers loose out on other players they need far more.

    I have nothing against CAlvin. Someday he'll be as good as larry fitzgerald. But to really improve the chargers it would be far smarter to solidify other parts of the team. Saftey, outside linebacker, inside linebacker, o-lineman and d-lineman.

    If the chargers are smart they'll get a good wr in free agency. The teams that win seem to do it that way.
     

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