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Can Norv motivate?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by BOLTS4LIFE, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    Most people in here know my opinion on Norv.

    The reason I feel this way is because I was living in Baltimore when he was with the Redskins. This was before the Ravens came to Baltimore so Redskins games and coverage was everywhere. It was impossible to watch football in Baltimore and avoid it (at that time).
    Marty did not drive that team into the ground. Norv did and Marty pulled them out. Then of course, they took a gamble on a rookie and the odds didn’t end up in their favor.



    ANYWAY... I’m thinking (and hoping) that we have the players to bring a title (or two) to San Diego despite of who our coach is.

    This move dose put us in a better position because it’s not too likely that Norv will butt heads with AJ.

    With that said, does anybody here think Norv can motivate the players? Why or why not?
     
  2. 17Rocks

    17Rocks Well-Known Member

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    I think that the players will have to motivate themselves, Norv has a rep for being laid back. he is an offensive genius (Emphasis on the first syllable of the word offensive) but I don't think he is a motivator like Marty was.

    I think that guys like Philip and Shawne will be the big motivators, lets just hope that Norv can bring some postseason smarts to the team...
     
  3. in_a_days

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    Man I was living in Northern Viginia during the Norv years and I was thoroghly unimpressed. There is no doubt that the guy is very talented in some regards as a coach, but I do not think that motivation is his strong suit. He never gets fired up on the sideline, never gets in peoples grills, never seems to get excited about anything.

    That being said, I don't think that our roster consists of guys that should need a whole lot of motivation. If last years playoff loss isn't enuff to light a fire under each and every a$$ then there's nothing that's going to motivate these guys. We have established star players on both sides of the ball and I think it's going to be more up to guys like Rivers and Merriman to keep their boys fired up. So while I think Norv is a poor motivator, I don't think that's any excuse for us to play uninspired football.

    I think you also have to consider the guys that Norv was dealing with. He coached under Dan Snyder and every year had to deal with a new crop of premadonas like Michael Westbrook and Deion Sanders. And Brad Johnson was totally inconsistant both years in DC. I don't fault Norv for the 'skins failings, but I agree that a guy like Marty was much better suited to coaching (or screaming at) that group of azzholes. Hopefully that wont be the case here.
     
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    TheLash Well-Known Member

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    I dunno. He sure seemed able to motivate Jack, Chrissy & Janet when he was the landlord on Three's Company.:icon_shrug:
     
  5. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    I posted the same question months ago. At that time my opinion was HELLZ NO!

    Since then, Offensive stars have said "They are excited" about the new twists. OUr O Line is back, the D is responding well to the new coaches.

    I tell you, if Norv cant motivate, and I think he can (now), then there are other coaches and players on the team that can.
     
  6. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    Great post!!! :tup:

    Not only should that playoff loss inspire that team but when you break down everything about last season...

    14-2
    Undefeated at home
    Swept the Donkos
    Rivers amazing first year as a starter
    Overcoming distractions (Foley and Kiel)
    4-0 without Merriman
    LT making history
    9 Pro Bowl players


    THAT LOOKS LIKE A SUPER BOWL TEAM TO ME!!!

    :yes: :bolt: :abq2: :abq1: :icon_toast: :icon_beerbang:
     
  7. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Tony Dungy doesn't look like a great motivator, but he's got the hardware now.:bolt2:
     
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  8. Sweets

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    From this 49er fan, I say good luck...as a HC Norv has failed time and time again, but he seems to take the offensive coordinator job well, and with all the weapons your team has, unless Norv is telling them to throw the games I don't think he will have a negative impact on the Chargers.
     
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  9. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Norv has failed and failed miserably as a HC so far. But the Redskins were not that great of a team, most of its stars were past the prime of their careers and the teams did not gell...

    Oakland. Paaaalease. No one could coach that train wreck to success. Not even if we cloned all the great AFL, NFL, CFL coaches into one super sayan coach of power level 5. Nothing could help that quagmire of toxic energy come together and play as a unit. Nothing. Darth Vader and a bazillion batalions of red storm troopers couldnt help that hapless bunch of me-men.

    Besides, the dark lord of Oakland, Al Davis keeps his minons stoopid, and doesnt allow a coach to coach. the wind blows afoul in Oakland, carrying on it the promise of mediocrity, with the dying words "just win baby..."
     
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    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    That is because he rode Peyton until the boy got so sore he had to win to prevent a fatal case of hemroids...:icon_eek:
     
  11. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Must have been some good motivation then, it worked!!!!!!:bolt2:
     
  12. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    They worked at it day and night, night and day.:icon_eek:
     
  13. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    No wonder why Peyton grew a stash, he was trying to hide from Tony.:bolt2:
     
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  14. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    :icon_rofl: That one is good... :icon_rofl:
    "laser rocket arm... "
     
  15. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I'm glad you liked it.:tup: :abq1: :abq2: :icon_toast:
     
  16. Thread_Killer

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    That’s all fine and dandy if the players like what they see in minicamp, running around in shorts. But I don’t think that makes any difference in Norv’s ability to motivate this team.

    The time to motivate is during the season. To bounce back after a tough loss, to not look past an opponent, to not get overconfident after a convincing win. Marty was great at getting this team ready to play, week in and week out. Norv’s track record as a HC suggests that this hasn’t been his strong suit. This is a major concern, IMO.

    And I don’t buy the excuses that Norv had difficult players. That’s part of being a head coach in professional sports, to handle the different egos and personalities and get them to play as a team. I can’t think of any competent head coach who ISN’T able to keep the so-called “problem player” in line.

    IMO, the best chance we have of this working, is to avoid situations that require the head coach to motivate. We can’t start 0-2 out of the gate, we need to avoid falling behind early in games, and we need to minimize the number of games that go down to the wire.

    Bottom line: I have my doubts that Norv can get this team to have success on the field commensurate with it’s talent level. It is just one of those times when I have to say “I trust AJ”, and hope that my instincts are wrong.
     
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  17. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Well you can continue to be Mr. Crappy Pants and continue to pout, prediciting the end of the worlld as we know it or start to trust the players who rank amungst the best in the league.

    Its up to you, but I think you will stick with being Mr. Crappy Pants...:lol:
     
  18. Thread_Killer

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    Bullshit. I said that "I trust AJ".

    You made up the part where I predicted anything bad to happen to this team. :tdown:
     
  19. Concudan

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    Oh my bad!:icon_tease:
     
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    Dude, who peed in your wheeties? His post brought up a lot of valid, well thought out concerns that a lot of Charger fans share. No where did he predict doom and gloom or that the sky was falling.

    He said that even with his concerns that he would just put his trust in AJ who has an excellent track record.

    Your post sounds like someone in junior high school.:icon_huh:
     
  21. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Well guess I peed in your wheaties huh?

    I was yanking his chain. Unless of course you are ever able to take someone seriously who calls you Mr. Crappy Pants...
     
  22. Thread_Killer

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    Thank you, that is a great take on my post, and Concudan's reaction to it. You really seem to know your stuff, it would be great if you posted more and lurked less.

    :tup:
     
  23. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Yer so full of Shite your eyes are brown buddy!:icon_evil:


    :lol:
     
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  25. Concudan

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    They are brown! I have seen pictures!
     
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    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    I'm with TK.
    I trust AJ but I don't like Norv at all.
     
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    Thanks Bolts. I give your perceptions a lot of weight, given that you've seen Norv up close during his tenure with the Redskins.

    So how about giving us the flip side of the coin? What were the best things that you saw from Norv?
     
  28. Concudan

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    Does acne scars count?:icon_shrug:
     
  29. Deb

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    this was an interesting thread to me cuz I am a cowboys fan and a lot of the board talk for us from last season was....BP coudn't motivate the players..........how much of that was his responsibility and how much falls back on the players.
     
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  30. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Welcome to the forum. I think part of what you suggest is true. The players do have to be able to nut it up and go out and play. But when the chips are down, a good field general should be able to motivate the players. Be it screaming "one play at a time" over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, or by other means is not germain to the topic in my opinion.

    There comes a time when the coach has to inspire. I am rethinking my position on Norv not being able to motivate. What I want to see, and what I think is more important is can Norv and his coaching staff actually make the needed second half adjustments to keep the team from needing motivation?
     

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