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Charger Roster Evaluation Draft Solution Board

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by RMANCIL, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. SanDiegoRon

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    Heads Up for you Draft Junkies... on Saturday night 4:00pm PST ESPN2 is the East-West Shrine game - the first of the all-star games and this year there is a boatload of talent playing...

    here's the link to the rosters: http://www.shrinegame.com/rosters.php

    DB's like: Trae Williams, Jamie Silva; OL fat boys like: Adam Kraus, Andrew Crummey, Pedro Sosa... DL fat boys like: Dykes and Hayden... that's just the East...

    and, of course my preseason Sleeper pick (Shammy) CB Dwight Lowery San Jose St.... :lol:
     
  2. Boltjolt

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    True and i believe Oliver will be one of those who is.
     
  3. RMANCIL

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    Tim Dobbins Fifth-round draft choice 2006.
    COLLEGE: Two-time All-Big 12 selection at Iowa State, earning first-team honors as senior in 2005 and honorable mention recognition as junior in 2004…Big 12 Defensive Newcomer of Year in 2004
    Plays primarily on special teams. 2007 Logged extensive playing time in Week 2 at New England accounting for nine stops at inside linebacker after Matt Wilhelm left contest .

    Dobbins has slipped behind Silar on the depth chart at this point and has never been used at OLB working at ILB. Questionable pas coverage ability.

    Marques Harris Acquired: Free Agent - 2005
    Third-team All-America by Sports Network and first-team All-Great West Football Conference at Southern Utah in 2004, 2005: Inactive Weeks 1-2, 4-5 & 7 ST player.2006 saw action at OLB and ILB 24 total stops 3 sacks 1 start. 2007 19# combined stops, Harris is very athletic and versitile. He has filled in at every poistion on the field and looks like a pplayer who could start for a lot of clubs. Runs very well.

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    This draft is loaded with LB and with a 3-4 defense you can always use LB. When you look at the games that Merriman , Phillips and Wielhelm have missed due to injury along with the normal rotation that the Chargers use every game I think it is very possible that the Chargers could go in this direction.
    Here are the current candidates.

    Dan Connor
    ILB | (6'3", 228, 4.6) | PENN STATE
    Strengths: Is tall with adequate bulk and room on his frame to get bigger. Displays good natural instincts. Is physical, tough and aggressive, but also disciplined. Plays with a mean streak and his motor never stops running. At his best when he's protected and playing in space. Reads his keys quickly, takes solid angles in pursuit and shows good closing burst to the ball carrier. Does a fine job of using his hands to keep blockers off his body as he pursues and shows good upper-body strength. Extremely reliable tackler; he breaks down effectively in space and consistently wraps up with good power at the point of attack. Gets good depth on his drops and displays adequate range in zone coverage. Displays good ball skills for his position. Has a nose for the ball and always seems to be in on big plays. Is an instinctive blitzer with good closing burst to the QB when he gets through the line.

    Weaknesses: Plays a bit high at times. Stronger upper body than lower body. Plays with somewhat of a narrow base and will struggle in some phone booth matchups versus bigger blockers. Shows some stiffness in his hips. Good quickness laterally and coming forward, but takes a bit too long in transition when turning and running. Will have some trouble sticking with quicker RB's one-on-one in coverage. Character issues could play a factor in his draft stock; he was suspended for three games in 2005 after being cited for harassing phone calls.

    Overall: Conner has played in 33 games (24 starts) during his first three seasons (2004-'06), registering 274 total tackles, 19 tackles for loss, 7.5 sacks, and three interceptions. He has also seen time at inside linebacker. Connor spent most of his career on the weak-side before moving inside as a senior to replace Paul Posluszny (Bills, 2nd round in 2007). If he makes a smooth transition it will only add to his value as a potential first-round pick. Connor has some minor character issues that could come back to haunt him a bit and he also lacks elite athleticism. However, his speed, tackling skills and tenacious style are the reasons he ranks as one of the premier linebacker prospects in the 2008 draft class.


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    You have to like his instincts and his ability to play inside or out .

    Philip Wheeler
    ILB | (6'1", 234, 4.55) | GEORGIA TECH
    Strengths: Aggressive, reads keys quickly and makes plays behind the line of scrimmage. Uses hands well, delivers a strong punch at the point of attack and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Has good not great range, takes sound angles to the ball and makes plays in pursuit. Wraps up upon contact and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Gets good depth, reads quarterbacks' eyes and covers a lot of ground quickly when asked to drop into zone coverage. Times blitzes well, takes the shortest path to the quarterback and has above-average closing speed. Flashes the ability to run through blockers in the backfield and is a relentless pass rusher. Has experience lining up on the inside and is versatile.

    Weaknesses: Undersized for an inside linebacker and gets engulfed at times. Can be overaggressive and overruns holes. Does a great job of keeping tight ends in front of him but isn't physical or aggressive enough and makes it too easy for them to catch passes underneath. Doesn't explode out of cuts, loses too much speed when forced to turn and run and lacks ideal man-to-man cover skills. Lacks elite ball skill and isn't much of a playmaker in coverage. Relies on speed too much and has yet to develop an arsenal of pass rush moves. Appears to gear down at times and isn't relentless in pursuit.

    Overall: Wheeler appeared in all 12 games in 2003, primarily on special teams, and finished with six total tackles. He was redshirted in 2004. During his next two seasons (2005-'06) Wheeler played in 26 games (26 starts) and recorded 153 total tackles, 26 tackles for loss, 13 sacks and four interceptions. Wheeler doesn't have prototypical size for an inside linebacker or cover skills for an outside linebacker but there's a lot to like about his instincts, closing speed and tackling. A strong senior season could land Wheeler a spot in the first two rounds of the 2008 draft.


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    Kid has wheels and takes strong angles.

    Keith Rivers
    OLB | (6'2", 236, 4.6) | USC
    Strengths: Possesses excellent size-potential. He's tall with adequate bulk and room on his frame to get bigger. Displays very good speed and athleticism. A sideline-to-sideline run defender. He refuses to stay blocked. Uses his hands well to sift through traffic and has a knack for disengaging. Shows great awareness and natural instincts. Read and react skills are very good. Takes solid angles in pursuit, shows upper-echelon closing burst and is a powerful tackler. Knows how to jar the ball loose and generates more than his share of forced fumbles. Shows very good closing burst as a pass rusher when he has a clean alley to the QB. Plays with a very good motor and will wear blockers down. Never gives up on a play and will show tremendous effort when pursuing from the backside.

    Weaknesses: Still has room to improve in terms of lower-body strength. Plays too high at times and loses his power when he does. Does a great job of sifting through traffic but needs to learn to anchor better when he's forced to take on blocks in the phone booth. Not an established playmaker in the passing game yet. Good range in coverage but lacks ideal ball skills. Needs to improve his pass-rush moves. He has great burst through the line but struggles to get off blocks once reached on the blitz

    Overall: Rivers has played in 37 games during his first three seasons (2004-'06) recording 162 total tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks, and two interceptions. He missed two contests and was limited in others because of a strained hamstring in 2005. Rivers, who possesses the size, speed and athleticism that NFL teams look for in a starting WILL, ranks among the elite class in what should be an outstanding crop of outside linebackers in 2008. Another dominant season as a senior in 2007 could land Rivers a spot in the top-20 picks of next year's draft.


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    His size ,strenth, speed jump off the page. He should be able to play any LB spot in a 3-4 .
     
  4. RMANCIL

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    Ali Highsmith
    OLB | (6'0", 221, 4.55) | LSU
    Strengths: Experienced starter with versatility. Has played all three LB spots at LSU and also has experience contributing on special teams. Better suited to play in space on the weak-side in the NFL. Displays very good discipline and instincts. Reads his keys quickly and will not take many false steps. He is a smooth athlete with good quickness and speed. Plays with reckless abandon and flies around the field. A sideline-to-sideline defender versus the run. Gets a deep drop in zone coverage and shows good range in that facet of the game. Instinctive in coverage and shows good closing burst when the ball is in the air. Also shows good instincts and speed when turned loose as a pass rusher. Experienced starter with good overall production at the highest collegiate level. Plays the game with passion and emotion. Fiery type of leader with an excellent motor.

    Weaknesses: Lacks ideal bulk and lower-body strength. Needs to be protected to be truly effective. Bigger blockers can overwhelm him in the phone booth. While he is instinctive, the one area he struggles in is pursuit angles. He will take some bad angles occasionally, which leads to him leaving his feet and attempting too many lunging arm tackles in space.

    Overall: During his first three seasons (2004-'06) Highsmith appeared in 38 games (24 starts) and recorded 159 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, eight sacks, and one interception. Highsmith is an experienced and versatile linebacker that plays the game with good emotion and intelligence. He is clearly an instinctive player with good overall speed and athleticism. However, he lacks ideal size and he needs to do a better job of taking on blocks. He also has room to improve as an open-field tackler. In our opinion, Highsmith projects best at WLB in the NFL and he could emerge as a Day 1 pick in the 2008 draft if he makes strides during his final season at LSU.


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    He needs to work on disengaging which hurts him at ILB he can run however sideline to sideline and cover.

    Shawn Crable
    OLB | (6'4", 243, 4.6) | MICHIGAN
    Strengths: A versatile OLB prospect that projects as either a SAM in a 4-3 scheme or an OLB in a 3-4 scheme. Possesses an outstanding combination of size and straight-line speed. He's tall, thickly built and athletic for his size. Displays good upper body power. Consistently is able to knock TE's back on their heels with initial contact. At his best when turned loose upfield. Can be extremely disruptive in the backfield versus the run. Gives a very good effort when pursuing plays from behind. He shows excellent initial quickness and closing burst as a pass rusher. He also does a fine job of using power and speed when rushing the passer. Gets adequate depth in his drops and shows adequate range in underneath zone coverage. He's big, fast and athletic enough to cover most TE's one-on-one. Does a fine job of using his strength to jam TE's at the line. He is a durable athlete that continues to improve each season. He also has been one of Michigan's most consistent special teams performers during his career.

    Weaknesses: Lacks ideal starting experience at this point; only eight starts at OLB came as a junior in 2006. Still has room to improve on diagnostic skills. Needs to play with more consistent leverage. Tries to take on blockers too high and loses power at the point of attack, as a result. He needs to improve his lower-body strength. Struggles at times when forced to anchor versus bigger blockers when teams run at him. Shows better awareness versus the run than he does in coverage. Will take some false steps and lacks the hip-fluidity to recover quickly enough in a lot of space or against faster TE's one-on-one. Ball skills are below average. Has very good speed and upper-body power as a pass rusher but he needs to improve his variety of moves. Tries to club guys a lot but needs to incorporate more effective swim and spin moves.

    Overall: Crable injured his shoulder in 2003 fall practice and was redshirted. During his first three seasons (2004-'06) he appeared in 34 games (eight starts) and notched 58 total tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss, and 8.5 sacks. Crable spent most of 2004-'05 playing on special teams. Crable, who is coming off his first season as a starter in 2006, is an underrated prospect that could rise quickly up draft boards with a strong showing as a senior. He still has room to improve in terms of his consistency versus the run and awareness in coverage. However, his outstanding combination of size and speed are intriguing in terms of pro potential. Crable's versatility as an OLB that can rush the passer and drop in coverage gives him additional value as a draft prospect, especially with so many NFL teams using some fashion of the 3-4 defensive alignment. Don't be surprised if Crable comes off the board as early as the second round of the 2008 draft.


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    He can rush the QB at this point he needs to show coverage skills. Has not seen much action in the middle .

    Xavier Adibi
    OLB | (6'1", 219, 4.56) | VIRGINIA TECH
    Strengths: Has a quick first step, aggressive and can make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Takes sound angles to the ball and shows sideline-to-sideline range. Is relentless in pursuit and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Change directions well, shows good burst coming out of cuts and can stay with most backs in man coverage. Gets good depth, shows adequate awareness and covers a lot of ground when asked to drop into zone coverage. Catches the ball well, shows good body control when adjusting to tipped passes and is a playmaker in coverage. Has a mean streak and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Times blitzes fairly well and has excellent closing speed. Does an adequate job of getting hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback and has excellent leaping ability.

    Weaknesses: Undersized, doesn't anchor well and can get driven back when teams run at him. Though flashes a strong upper body doesn't always use hands well and can take too long to shed blocks. Can have problems controlling emotions on the field and is somewhat prone to getting flagged. Tore a tendon in right biceps in 2004, slowed by shoulder stingers in 2006 and durability is somewhat of a concern.

    Overall: Adibi was redshirted in 2003. Over the next three seasons (2004-'06) he appeared in 32 games recording 176 total tackles, 18 tackles for loss, eight sacks, and six interceptions. Adibi missed four contests in 2004 with a torn biceps muscle which required surgery. Adibi isn't stout against the run but he excels in pursuit, he can make plays in coverage and he can get to the quarterback. He is capable of developing into a quality starter who also makes valuable contributions on special teams.


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    Big time nose for the ball kid is a playmker. Background will be very important.

    Bruce Davis
    OLB | (6'2", 231, 4.64) | UCLA
    Strengths: Quick, anticipates snap counts well and can make plays in the backfield. Reads keys fairly well and flashes the ability to locate the ball carrier quickly. Though hasn't shown great power at the point of attack is tough, hands are active and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Takes sound angles to the ball, works form snap until whistle and has above-average range. Has the athletic ability to sift through traffic quickly and makes plays in pursuit. Moves well laterally and runs line stunts well. Gets good inside lean cutting down the angle to the quarterback, flashes an effective rip move and is a relentless pass rusher. Times jumps well and gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback. Does an excellent job of slowing tight ends down at the line of scrimmage, has experience lining up at linebacker and has experience dropping into coverage. Wraps up upon contact and is a reliable open field tackler.

    Weaknesses: Plays far too high, lacks ideal lower body strength and struggles to anchor when teams run at him. While has the quick feet to develop an arsenal of pass rush moves, doesn't force offensive linemen to redirect enough and frequently goes right into moves before setting the blocker up. Doesn't have the power to consistently collapse the pocket and can be neutralized when doesn't win with first step. Lacks elite top-end speed and may not be as successful turning the corner at the NFL level.

    Overall: Davis was redshirted in 2003. Over the next three seasons (2004-'06) he appeared in 37 games and recorded 92 total tackles, 27 tackles for loss, and 17 sacks. Davis was switched to outside linebacker in 2005 but injuries along the defensive line forced him back to end. Davis struggles when teams pound the ball at him and he lacks ideal closing speed but there's a lot to like about his upside. He has the athletic ability to develop into a productive pass rusher in any scheme and the tenacity to develop into an every-down outside linebacker in a 3-4-scheme.


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    He plays much faster than he times. Very good rushing the passer.
     
  5. SanDiegoRon

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    can we add Quentin Groves, 6-3 250 4.46, Auburn (DE) to your list of OLB's.... :yes: before getting injured, this guy was awesome....

    or perhaps latter H.Taylor, 6-3 245 4.70 , NC (DE) - #2 in ACC for TFL & sacks... not sure about his speed, but he knows how to get into the backfield...

    Crable plays NASTY, almost unsportsmanlike... TFB....

    I don't expect AJ will draft a ILB early, they've still got Waters and Siler to wean....
     
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    Clearly I am slipping in my old age Groves by all reports belongs on the list. I have not seen him play personally. His size and reported speed are awesome also Derrick Harvey, 6-4, 245, Florida who should be gone when we pick and Vernon Gholston, 6-4, 265, Ohio State just to be all inclusive.

    Harvey and Gholston fly to the QB and should they slip on draft day they sure would command some attention.
     
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    Derrick Harvey
    DE | (6'4", 250, 4.65) | FLORIDA
    Big time pass rusher who would project to OLB in 3-4 . He looks small to play DE in 4-3 as a result I think he slides down the draft board a little bit.

    Vernon Gholston
    DE | (6'3", 255, 4.65) | OHIO STATE
    Teams love pass rushers however like Harvey Gholston can scoot but he is a little undersized FOR THE de IN A 4-3 BUT OLB in a 3-4 he could be a force.
    Quentin Groves
    DE | (6'3", 249, 4.43) | AUBURN

    Strengths: Explodes off the ball and can make plays in the backfield. Extends arms once locked on, shows adequate upper body strength and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Shows good awareness and generally locates the ball quickly. Takes sound angles to the ball and closes down cutback lanes. Plays with a good motor, shows above-average range and makes plays in pursuit. Shows good body control in space, wraps up on contact and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Plays with a lot of emotion and is a relentless pass rusher. Is fast enough to turn the corner and closes well. Drives legs when is able to get offensive linemen on heels and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Does an adequate job of getting hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback and times jumps fairly well. Is expected to play some outside linebacker this year and is versatile.

    Weaknesses: Though generally gets under blockers' pads, hasn't shown great lower body strength and can get driven back. Undersized for an NFL defensive end and there is some concern will wear down if asked to play an every-down role. Can be overaggressive and gets caught too far upfield at times. Isn't always balanced in stance and can give away line stunts. Flashes an effective spin move and has the lateral mobility to redirect inside after starting outside but relies on speed too much and hasn't developed a variety of pass rush moves at this point.

    Overall: Groves was redshirted in 2003. During his first three seasons (2004-06) he's played in 40 games (15 starts) and finished with 79 total tackles, 29 tackles for loss and 23 sacks. Groves is going to struggle when teams pound the ball at him when he lines up at end. However, he is big enough to hold his own at outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, he excels in pursuit and he has the natural ability to develop into a productive pass rusher. A strong senior season could make him one of the top-five defensive ends to come off the board.


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    Im thinking he doesnt draft a ILB at all but you never know. We are very strong in that area and Waters has yet to be active. I believe he will be a stud for us.
    We can use a OLB even tho Tucker has shown well.
     
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    NE lost one of their first rounders for cheating.
     
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    During the press conference today, LT was asked about Gates injury. He answered that Gates should be at least as good as last week and that he had confidence in both Brandon and Scott. Wonder if this means Scott Chandler will be active for this NE game?
     
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    Chandler saw no action vs the Pats so I would guess that he won't see action vs the Pats.
     
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    I do think that is a possibility, If their are no DB or DL on the board of equal talent . Most folks don't see it but Smith passed on a 1 for Turner just to have a one year insurance policy.

    Makes since to me to have a 5 year policy at a reduced rate.


    That said watch the RB's tonight in the allstar game it is loaded with guys who could be steals in the 3-5 round range.
     
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    We could and should go OT anyways.
     
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    QB Josh Johnson USD looked pretty damn good...
     
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    who do you like @ #31,...
     
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    Im hoping that Gosder Cherilus is still there. I like him plus the rep that BC has with putting out good OL. Could very well be there since the juniors who are declaring will make some good players drop and Cherilus im figuring is one of them.
    I like Otah but i dont think he is quick enough and Baker could be there but id rather have Cherilus.
     
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    After watching this game can people agree that we need a RT??
     
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    or a left that can move to the right - Chris Williams, Vandy...
     
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    What does everyone think of Pat Sims out of Auburn for the Chargers late in the first round? Is it a reach for this kid at that spot?
     
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    he's my flavor of the month... no reach...
     
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    That's fine, I just want another bookend at RT. :yes:
     
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    The Chargers season came to a close yesterday in the A.F.C. Championship game. The Bolts gave the undefeated Patriots all they wanted yesterday but injuries to key players finally did them in.

    I am finishing up the roster review that hopefully helps focus us on the teams potential needs and some of the candidates to fill those needs. Several of us have already reviewed the offense and the DL along with the LB group. For those fans that are now looking at the draft be sure to review the thread for positions and players of interest to you and by all means share your ideas on team needs and potential draft selections.

    CB

    Jammer, Quentin CB 6-0 204 Texas 6 exp 28 AGE
    2007 61 combined stops int 1 pd 10.
    Jammer had a strong season again in 2007. He has improved his game every year and is widely thought to be the best run support CB in the game. Jammer played brilliantly in the AFCC VS the Pats.

    Cromartie, Antonio CB 6-2 203 Florida State 2 exp 23 age
    44 combined stops 10 int 18 PDF
    Cromartie exploded onto the football scene in the 2007 season. Cromartie in his 1st season of starting lead the league in int and was named to the Pro Bowl. His rare blend of size speed and athleticism put him in a class unto himself .


    Florence, Drayton CB 6-0 195 Tuskegee 5 exp 27 age
    61 combined stops 2 int 10 PDF
    Florence lost his starting job to Cromartie however he continued to work hard and fill the role of Nickle back which provided the team with 3 top CB to match up with hi powered passing teams. Florence is expected to command a very large contract as he is a F.A. now that the season has concluded. He is not expected to return to the Chargers as it is widely thought that he could start for a large number of clubs.

    Gordon, Cletis CB 6-1 197 Jackson State 2 exp 24 age
    16 combined stops 2 PDF
    undrafted free agent from Jackson State, he earned a spot on the roster in 2006 .Gordon spent the entire year on the active roster, but he only saw action in a couple of games.

    Oliver, Paul CB 6-0 208 Georgia 0 exp 23 age
    DNP 2007
    2007 Supplemental Draft 4TH ROUND
    College: Appeared in 38 games and started 15 in three seasons…as a junior, finished fifth on team with 57 tackles and added three interceptions as well as two sacks…limited Georgia Tech All-America WR Calvin Johnson to two catches and 13 yards at home as a junior…named team’s Most Improved Defensive Player as a sophomore.

    It is thought that Oliver would get a look at Safety in preseason 2008.


    McCree, Marlon S 5-11 202 Kentucky 7 exp 30 age
    67 total combined stops 3 int 6 pdf
    Veteran free agent signed by the Chargers in 2006 to provide vet leadership in the secondary. The Charger deep back field continued to be a major area of concern during the 2007 season .

    Hart, Clinton FS 6-0 205 Central Florida C.C. 5 30
    85 combined stops 5 int 9 pdf 1 sack
    This was the first season that Hart started for the club after being acquired as a F.A. off waivers from the Eagles in 2004. Hart play ranged from brilliant to inconsistent.

    Gregory, Steve CB-S 5-11 185 Syracuse 2 25
    11 combined stops 1 pdf
    undrafted rookie free agent 2006.
    Four year starter at Syracuse played three seasons as cornerback and spent junior year as wide receiver…finished career ranked third in school history with 40 passes defensed

    Weddle, Eric SS 5-11 200 Utah 0 23
    53 combined stop 6 PDF 1 INT
    second round of the 2007 NFL Draft
    Weddle played in both nickle and dime sets the entire season and his CB type cover skills proved to be extremely valuable during both the season as well as post season. It is widely thought that his role will expand in 2008.

    Draft prospects



    Mike Jenkins CB 6'0" 200 SOUTH FLORIDA
    CHARACTER) Problems on and off the field
    Strengths: Does an adequate job of opening up hips, shows a second gear when tracking the ball downfield and has the long arms to occasionally tip away passes from a trail position. Is smooth when forced to change directions quickly, shows adequate burst coming out of cuts and flashes ability to hold own on an island. Times jumps fairly well and is tall enough to compete for jump balls. Active and can effectively bluff blitz. Has some experience lining up at safety, can line up over the slot or on the outside and is versatile. Has experience blocking for punt returns and can contribute on special teams.

    Weaknesses: Bounces around too much and footwork is inconsistent. Hasn't shown great upper body strength, doesn't use hands that well and gives away the inside too much. Though reads quarterback's eyes and consistently gets into position to make plays on the ball, lacks ideal ball skills and isn't a playmaker. Fills hard when reads run but doesn't shed blocks well and takes poor angles to the ball at times so doesn't offer much in run support. Charged with misdemeanor counts of disorderly conduct and opposing or obstructing an officer without violence during the 2007 off-season and South Florida suspended him indefinitely so character is a concern.

    Overall: Jenkins has suited up for 38 games starting in 28 of them during his first three seasons (2004-'06) and recording 92 total tackles, two tackles for loss, three interceptions, and 29 passes defended. He was limited in 2004 by an ankle injury. Also saw time at safety that season. Jenkins is fast, athletic and big enough to emerge into a quality starter but his footwork and ability to defend the run need work. His off-the-field incident this off-season is also reason for concern.


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    Aqib Talib CB 6'1" 201 KANSAS
    Team Captain (2007)
    Playboy Preseason All-America (2007)
    Second-team All-America (SI.com) (2006)
    All-Big 12 First Team (Coaches, AP, Rivals.com, K.C. Star, Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle, Fort Worth Star Telegram) (2006)
    As a Junior, Talib has established himself as one of the best defensive college football players in the country by being a Consensus First-team All-America. Not only has he performed well as a cornerback he has contributed on the offensive side as well. Though playing wide receiver sparingly, Talib has caught four touchdown passes through the first nine games. In a game at Kansas State, he ended a potentially game winning drive by intercepting a pass by Josh Freeman. He has also returned an interception more than 100 yards for a touchdown. In the 2008 Orange Bowl at the end of the season against Virginia Tech, Talib returned an interception for a touchdown and was named the game's Most Valuable Player.

    He has the size to play safety and in fact may have a better career at the position.

    Leodis McKelvin CB 5'10" 186 TROY UNIVERSITY
    Leodis McKelvin is considered by many pundits as a Kevin Hester clone. He is anything but. McKelvin is a true defensive back in every word. He is a DB first and return specialist second, although it is his spectacular returns that first introduced us to him. McKelvin commenced his Trojan career in 2004 when he played in all twelve games as a freshman. In 2005, he was an All Sun Belt selection as a kick and punt returner. He averaged an amazing 25.8 yards per kickoff and 12.6 per punt returns that season. The 2006 season marked a turning point in his development. That year marked his first full time action at cornerback. He started all thirteen games at the position, made 66 tackles - 56 unassisted - forced two fumbles and even played some wide receiver. The 2007 season saw McKelvin taking his game to another level. He started all twelve regular season games, gaining 60 tackles - 50 of them solo. He made two interceptions and recovered a fumble returning it 36 yards. He excelled returning kicks and also returned 25 punts, three for touchdown, for 436 yards and 33 kickoffs for 765 yards. He led Troy in all-purpose yards from scrimmage with 1,192. He finished his career one kickoff return short of the NCAA record of seven. He is a two time All American selection as a returner (2006 and 2007) and has received some All American mentions at cornerback during his senior season. He was also invited to play at several All Star bowl games.

    McKelvin possessed blazing speed, his 40 time had been clocked in 4.38 to 4.45 range; allowing him to run with most of the receivers in the next level. He possesses a natural instinct for the position, because he is quick to read and react. He uses his hands well to disrupt the receiver timing and can accelerate with tremendous burst. He shows great recovery speed with a smooth backpedal and hip turn. McKelvin has good man coverage skills and can also play zone, due to his above average football intelligence. He has good hands for interceptions and comes up quickly for run support, although sometimes he shys away from contact. He does need to develop better mechanics and definitely must avoid gambling. He is just not physical enough right now and will sometimes bite on double moves; he just needs more experience at the position.

    Brandon Flowers CB 5'1" 192 VIRGINIA TECH
    Intercepted five passes this season, totaling 93 interception return yards and a touchdown and adding seven passes defended. He's ranked third on the defense in stops, recording 72 total tackles, seven of those for a loss of 22 yards.

    Last season Flowers finished with three interceptions and led the ACC with 18 passes broken up and 21 passes defended on his way to being named a third-team All-American. Projects as a 2-3round selection as with most VMI players off field issue/ concerns.


    Reggie Smith CB 6'1" 196 OKLAHOMA
    2008 NFL Draft Prospect - Scouting Report
    Smith's stock is rapidly rising after a stellar junior season and he is being projected as a first-round pick.

    As a freshman, he received Freshman All-America and All-Big 12 accolades from The Sporting News after recording 47 tackles and two interceptions. The honors kept coming after an impressive sophomore season, during which he made 41 tackles and picked off three passes.

    He was named the preseason Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year coming into his junior season and he hasn't disappointed, starring in a talented Sooners' defense. Heading into OU's Big 12 title game tilt with Missouri, Smith has 74 tackles (55 solo, 19 assists, 6.5 for loss, one sack), three interceptions, 10 pass breakups, and a fumble return for a touchdown.

    Smith's primary position in college has been strong safety, though he has also seen time at corner. Several services have him pegged as a corner on the next level, though he could very well remain at safety. With great size and speed, he can match up well with the league's taller, bigger receivers. He loves to be wherever the ball is, may it be making a tackle, defending a pass, or going for a loose ball.

    Wherever he plays in the secondary, he can be a big-time player. He could also be a kick and punt returner, where he has performed well in college (one return for a score last season).

    Oklahoma has produced a lot of pro talent on the defensive side of the ball and Smith stands to be another in that line. If he elects to bypass his senior season, the timing couldn't be better with the season he's having. There are a lot of players jockeying to be in the first few defensive backs off of the board and when draft day comes, there's a good chance Smith could be one of those guys.

    Update (12/28/07): Smith won't play in next week's Fiesta Bowl against West Virginia due to a broken big toe on his right foot. The toe was broken during OU's 38-17 victory over Missouri in the Big 12 Championship Game on Dec. 1.

    Because of the injury, Smith's streak of 39 consecutive games played (every game since he's been at Oklahoma) will end and it could be a premature end to his collegiate career, as the 2007 All-Big 12 first-teamer is still widely projected as a first-round pick in next April's draft.

    Smith ends his junior season with 78 tackles (seven tackles for loss), one sack, three INTs, 11 pass breakups, and a fumble return for a touchdown.

    Antoine Cason CB 6'0" 190 ARIZONA
    Strengths: Is confident and plays in a blitz-heavy scheme that frequently leaves him on an island. Footwork is sound, changes directions quickly and shows good burst coming out of cuts. Gets good knee bend in backpedal, reads routes fairly well and closes quickly. Times jumps well and is tall enough to compete for jump balls. Opens hips quickly when forced to turn and run, shows a second gear when tracking the ball downfield and locates the ball well. Reads routes well, reads quarterback's eyes and is aggressive. Catches the ball fairly well and flashes big-play ability after interceptions. Physical and fills hard when reads run. Active and can effectively bluff blitz. Has progressed steadily and should only continue to get better with experience.

    Weaknesses: Though gets adequate hand placement when asked to press receivers, hasn't shown great upper body strength, will have some problems rerouting receivers at the NFL level and is more effective playing off the line than is jamming receivers. Takes too long to shed block when gets reached and occasionally takes himself out of the play by trying to avoid blocker rather than stacking him up. Doesn't always wrap up upon contact and is an inconsistent open field tackler that isn't going to deliver a lot of big hits.

    Overall: Cason has started all 34 games in his first three seasons (2004-06) while compiling 182 total tackles, 18 pass breakups and 10 interceptions, one of which he returned for a touchdown. He also participated on Arizona's track and field team in 2006, competing in the 200 meters and the sprint relays. Cason needs to get a little stronger and he comes up just short of elite in terms of top-end speed. But otherwise his overall skill set is impressive. He has the size, quickness, athletic ability and mental toughness to develop into a quality No. 1 corner in the NFL.


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    Kenny Phillips S 6'1" 203 MIAMI (FLA.)
    Kenny Phillips may not have quite the hype as someone like Sean Taylor heading into the NFL Draft, but the safety is not far behind. Phillips is widely considered the best safety available this year and the 6-2 Florida native ended his productive collegiate career at Miami a year early to try his luck in the big leagues.

    At 6-2 and 210 pounds, Phillips has great size and will not need to work on anything from a physical standpoint to be a big contributor in the NFL, or even a perennial pro bowler. He is extremely aggressive and quick and will use those skills in pass coverage and covering the run. In this day and age of big hitting safeties, Phillips certainly fits the bill, but he did have seven interceptions during his three year career in Miami and his coverage ability is often overlooked in favor of his big hits.

    The only possible downside of 2007 All-ACC First Team honorees game is he can occasionally look to make the big play over the reliable play. Yet, that is getting a little too picky. Phillips will go in the top half of the first round and will likely be a top ten pick if his pre-draft numbers are as good as expected


    James Silva S 5'11" 204 BOSTON COLLEGE

    He lacks the big speed you want however he has a great nose for the ball . Big hitter who will find a spot in the N.F.L. finalists for the Jim Thorpe Award, 8 INT for 2007 season named to the 2007 Walter Camp Football Foundation All-America team. BC's leading tackler this past season with 115 (75 solos, 40 assists).


    Marcus Griffin S 5'11" 200 TEXAS
    Texas has made a habit of producing defensive backs named Griffin that go on to the NFL; this year will produce another one.

    In 2006, it was Cedric who went in the second round to the Vikings. Last year, it was Michael, who went in the first round to the Titans. In 2008, Michael's twin brother Marcus will hear his name called. While Michael was on the fast track to being a high draft pick, Marcus was trying to work his way into being a key player for the Longhorns.

    After walking on, he red shirted in 2003 and then in his first two years of action, he spent time on defense and on special teams, making 42 tackles. It wasn't until his junior season that he cracked the starting lineup, finally getting a chance to start alongside his brother. He had a breakout season, making 90 tackles and an interception to go with two forced fumbles and one fumble recovery.

    As a senior, though, he's really come into his own. He came into the season rated as the nation's top senior safety by renowned analyst Mel Kiper, Jr. and backed it up with 97 tackles, 3 INTs, five pass breakups, and a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. As a result, he was named first-team All-Big 12 and an ESPN.com All-American.

    As shown by his tackle numbers over the last two seasons, Griffin's specialty is tackling not covering. However, the fact that he did post his best interception and pass breakup number this season is something to take note of and shows that he can at least be an adequate cover man on the next level, if not better.

    He doesn't have that ideal size that some scouts and coaches might like for matchups with bigger receivers on the next level, but his toughness and all-around physicality is an asset in that respect. With a little more bulking up, he could help himself more in that area and also in being a punisher in the secondary.

    He'll find a place on the field because of his nose for the ball and because he's a smart player (he's garnered several academic honors during his college career) who will work his hardest to improve in his areas of weakness and get the best out his strengths, ability, and potential. He could very well go at the end of Day 1 or a little higher, but he may wind up going early on Day 2.

    Update (12/28/07): Griffin finished his senior season with two tackles and an interception in Texas' 52-34 win over Arizona State in Thursday night's Holiday Bowl.

    Griffin fell just one tackle short of a triple-digit tackle year, recording 99 tackles in 13 games, with last night's interception being his fourth of the season.

    Thomas Zbikowski S 5'11" 207 NOTRE DAME
    Strengths: Can cover a lot of ground in zone overage and has experience playing a centerfielder-type role. Opens hips well enough and is fast enough to run with most tight ends. Fills hard when reads run, takes sound angles to the ball and is a relentless run defender Squares up to the ball carrier, wraps up and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Times blitzes well and flashes an adequate rip move. Looks to strip or punch the ball out of the ball carrier's hands when chasing and is a ball hawk. Plays with a lot of emotion and is a natural leader. Fearless punt return man, flashes big-play ability in that role and can make an immediate impact on special teams.

    Weaknesses: Can get caught too close to the line of scrimmage and lacks the second gear to consistently recover when gets caught in a trail position. Footwork is inconsistent and gets spun around at times. Can get to physical in coverage and is vulnerable to pass interference as well as defensive holding calls. Slow locating the ball and is step late getting to the ball at times. Though uses hands fairly well and can get though traffic quickly takes too long to shed blocks when a blocker is able to lock on.

    Overall: Zbikowski arrived at Notre Dame in 2003, did not appear in any games, but was not redshirted. From 2004-'06, he started all 35 games he played in registering 213 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, six interceptions, and seven pass breakups. Zbikowski also returned 43 punts for 523 yards (12.2 average) and three touchdowns in 2005-'06. He missed one game in 2006 with a shoulder injury. Zbikowski was granted a fifth year of eligibility for 2007. Zibilowski is a tough run defender who has the speed to develop quality cover skills and make an impact on special teams. On the other hand, he can't be considered an elite prospect at the position because he is too inconsistent for a player with his talent.


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    Based on the post season play and the high probability that Florence will leave the Bolts as a F.A. you can bet the Charger will look long and hard at DB in the draft.

    I rank DB need and RB need at top of the board in the 2008 draft.
     
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    Wow, im usually with ya on things but i really cant agree on the biggest needs for this team being DB and especially RB.
    Just cant see it and i have to ask.......is it YOU who thinks Oliver will get a look at safety or did you read it someplace? Because i sure havent seen it anywhere, but i dont live there either to see the paper.

    I dont think Oliver will play safety for us and doubt they give him a serious look there. IMO that is why they took him in the sup draft.....insurance for if Florence leaves so Oliver can have a year under his bely to develope.

    Remember this......If Oliver had played college ball this year, he is very likely a first round pick so we already have him and he practiced with the big boys for a year already.

    Me thinks that was AJ's plan
     
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    I understand your man love for Oliver. However he has not played a down this season so to count on him to start next year is a pretty big hope imop. On the Oliver may play safety front the Union beat writer posted it in his mail bag as the direction the Bolts are looking to take with him per a source with the Bolts.

    I felt that based on his work out numbers that he would not be successful in the N.F.L. at CB and I still think that and so for he has done nothing to make me change my mind.

    On the RB front Smith took a pass on a 1st round pick so that he would have depth at RB for 1 season. If the Chargers can have depth at the position for 5 seasons it makes since especially when LT is heading into his 8 year and he is coming off a knee injury.

    Imagine the offense with just Darren Sproles at RB , he would be injured in less than two weeks as the primary back. I do like the kids on IR Race and Gross who looked good in TC however I am not sold on them vs Jamaal Charles , Felix Jones or Jonathan Stewart one of which has a very good chance of being on the board when we pick.

    I do think the B.A. at a position of need will be the choice and that is always the best bet for the long run imop.
     
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    Scouts Inc. Top 32 Draft-Eligible Prospects
    Player Position School Height Weight Speed
    1. Darren McFadden* RB Arkansas 6-2 212 4.40
    2. Chris Long DE Virginia 6-3 1/4 266 4.80
    3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 6-1 1/4 310 5.10
    4. Matt Ryan QB Boston College 6-4 5/8 221 4.80
    5. Jake Long OT Michigan 6-7 309 5.30
    6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 6-1 1/4 305 4.95
    7. Ryan Clady* OT Boise State 6-6 317 5.15
    8. Vernon Gholston* DE Ohio State 6-3 5/8 255 4.65
    9. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 6-3 225 4.78
    10. DeSean Jackson* WR California 6-0 179 4.35
    11. Kenny Phillips* S Miami 6-1 3/4 203 4.45
    12. Mike Jenkins CB South Florida 6-0 200 4.49
    13. Malcolm Kelly* WR Oklahoma 6-4 217 4.50
    14. Samuel Baker OT USC 6-5 312 5.30
    15. Derrick Harvey* DE Florida 6-4 1/2 250 4.65
    16. Andre' Woodson QB Kentucky 6-4 219 4.84
    17. Aqib Talib* CB Kansas 6-1 1/2 201 4.50
    18. Limas Sweed WR Texas 6-4 3/8 219 4.45
    19. Keith Rivers OLB USC 6-2 3/4 236 4.60
    20. Jonathan Stewart* RB Oregon 5-11 233 4.50
    21. Dan Connor OLB Penn State 6-3 228 4.60
    22. Calais Campbell* DE Miami 6-7 5/8 279 4.80
    23. Fred Davis TE USC 6-3 1/2 245 4.84
    24. Mario Manningham* WR Michigan 6-0 188 4.45
    25. Kentwan Balmer DT North Carolina 6-4 1/2 297 5.05
    26. Rashard Mendenhall* RB Illinois 5-11 225 4.55
    27. James Hardy* WR Indiana 6-5 1/2 218 4.58
    28. Ali Highsmith OLB LSU 6-0 221 4.55
    29. Jeffrey Otah OT Pittsburgh 6-6 339 5.3
    30. Pat Sims* DT Auburn 6-3 7/8 310 4.96
    31. Early Doucet III WR LSU 6-0 210 4.56
    32. Quentin Groves DE Auburn 6-3 1/2 249 4.45

    Selection order Note F indicates subjet to a coin flip.


    1 Miami
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    2 St. Louis 3-13
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    Oakland /Atlanta
    4-12
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    Oakland/Atlanta/Kansas City
    4-12
    .516
    5F Kansas City/Atlanta 4-12
    .516
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    New York Jets 4-12 .523
    7 New England (from San Francisco) 5-11 .465
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    Baltimore 5-11 .516
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    Cincinnati 7-9 .461
    10 New Orleans 7-9 .477
    11 Buffalo 7-9
    .516
    12 Denver 7-9
    .516
    13 Carolina 7-9
    .520
    14 Chicago 7-9 .543
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    Detroit 7-9
    .543
    16 Arizona 8-8
    .434
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    Minnesota 8-8
    .504
    18 Houston 8-8
    .516
    19 Philadelphia 8-8
    .563
    20 Tampa Bay 9-7
    .469
    21 Washington 9-7
    .555
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    Dallas (from Cleveland) 10-6 .425
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    Pittsburgh 10-6
    .453
    24 Tennessee 10-6
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    Seattle 10-6
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    26 Jacksonville 11-5
    .516
    27 San Diego 11-5
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    Dallas
    13-3
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    San Francisco (from Indianapolis) 13-3
    .516
    30 Green Bay 13-3
    .469
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    New York Giants
    10-6
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    New England (pick forfeited)
    16-0
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