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Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by RMANCIL, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. Boltjolt

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    Im pretty sure he was listed as inactive. That is probably Florence.

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    this is from another site where the inactives are always posted.

    Inactives for divisional round

    Chargers declared WR Malcom Floyd, CBs Paul Oliver and Cletis Gordon, FB Lorenzo Neal, TE Scott Chandler, LB Anthony Waters, DL Brandon McKinney, and QB Charlie Whitehurst inactive for Sunday's Divisional Round game.
     
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    Thats weird lol, yahoo sports has the wrong name with the picture then. Its probably because its hard to tell if thats a 5 or a 9 next to the 2 on his shoulder and they just assumed it was a 5. I thought it was kind of odd that Oliver would be playing in the first playoff game.
     
  3. RMANCIL

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    Outside linebacker the most talented position at the Senior Bowl

    By Todd McShay
    Scouts Inc.
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    Updated: January 28, 2008, 4:20 PM ET
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    The 2008 Senior Bowl is in the books, and below are our updated unit rankings following the week of practice and Saturday's game. Official heights and weights from the Senior Bowl weigh-in session are included:

    Quarterbacks
    1. Chad Henne, Michigan (6-2 7/8, 228)
    2. Joe Flacco, Delaware (6-6 1/4, 232)
    3. Andre Woodson, Kentucky (6-4 1/4 234)
    4. John David Booty, USC, (6-2 3/8, 213)
    5. Colt Brennan, Hawaii (6-2 1/4, 185)
    6. Erik Ainge, Tennessee (6-5 1/2, 225)
    Henne and Flacco were the real winners from this year's crop of Senior Bowl quarterbacks. While neither is flawless -- Henne lacks ideal mobility and Flacco is still unpolished coming from a primarily shotgun-spread offense at the FCS level -- both showed enough promising traits to move ahead of Woodson on our draft board. Woodson seemed out of sorts working under 49ers offensive coordinator Mike Martz, whose timing-based offensive system accentuated Woodson's elongated delivery while masking his powerful arm. Booty helped his cause slightly with a steady week. Brennan, on the other hand, failed to erase concerns regarding his ability to overcome marginal size, a three-quarters delivery and below-average arm strength at the next level.
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    Matthew Forte was the best big back at the Senior Bowl and showed impressive versatility.
    Running backs
    1. Chris Johnson, East Carolina (5-10 1/2, 195)
    2. Matthew Forte, Tulane (6-1 1/8, 221)
    3. Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech (5-10 5/8, 210)
    4. Justin Forsett, California (5-7 3/4, 190)
    5. Chauncey Washington, USC (5-11 1/2, 215)
    6. Rafael Little, Kentucky (5-8 7/8, 194)
    7. Dantrell Savage, Oklahoma State (5-8 1/4, 187)
    8. Yvenson Bernard, Oregon State (5-8 1/4, 202)
    Johnson showed flashes of his explosive speed before a shoulder injury cut his week short. He remains the top-rated back in a weak crop of seniors, but several others made up ground late in the week. Forte emerged as the best prospect over 215 pounds at this year's Senior Bowl. His versatility will be enticing to several teams in the third round. Choice, Forsett and Washington were the other three standouts during the week. Choice is the best pure runner, Forsett is the shiftiest and Washington displays the most complete set of skills. However, all three lack elite speed and come with durability baggage. Finally, Little and Savage were unable to standout and Bernard was a late-addition in place of Johnson.
    Fullbacks
    1. Owen Schmitt, West Virginia (6-1 3/2, 247)
    2. Peyton Hillis, Arkansas (5-11 5/8, 229)
    3. Jacob Hester, LSU (6-2 7/8, 228)
    Schmitt possesses the most complete set of skills but a leg injury cut his week short. Hillis and Hester are a bit smaller but both are versatile contributors who the coaches fell in love with during the week. These should be the top three fullbacks selected in the 2008 draft, somewhere in the fourth-to-fifth round range.
    Wide receivers
    1. Limas Sweed, Texas (6-4, 212)
    2. Lavelle Hawkins, California (6-2 3/4, 210)
    3. Andre Caldwell, Florida (6-0, 1/2, 207)
    4. Early Doucet, LSU (5-11 7/8, 211)
    5. Donnie Avery, Houston (5-11, 186)
    6. Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State (6-2 7/7, 220)
    7. Jordy Nelson, Kansas State (6-2 5/8, 215)
    8. Eddie Royal, Virginia Tech (5-9 5/8, 182)
    9. Harry Douglas, Louisville (5-11 1/8, 170)
    10. Dexter Jackson, Appalachian State (5-11 1/2, 188)
    11. D.J. Hall, Alabama (5-10 1/8, 198)
    12. Dorien Bryant, Purdue (5-9 5/8, 169)
    13. Marcus Smith, New Mexico (6-0 7/8, 214)
    Sweed and Doucet proved to be among the premier talents at wide receiver prior to suffering injuries that would end both of their weeks. Hawkins and Caldwell gladly stepped up in their place. Hawkins was solid early in the week and had a phenomenal showing during Wednesday full-pad practice. He is in position to compete for a spot in the first two rounds. From what we saw, Caldwell was more impressive than Doucet during practice on Monday and Tuesday and also finished the week strong as one of the standouts in Saturday night's game.

    Avery has great speed but his routes need lots of work. Bowman's inconsistent hands have his stock falling out of the first two rounds right now. On the flip side, Nelson and Royal helped their respective causes with very steady performances throughout the week. Douglas and Bryant failed to show the explosiveness and consistency we were hoping to see from them this week. Smith and Jackson are not quite as polished but both took advantage of the opportunity and should come off the board in the first three rounds. Hall was one of the most productive college players in this group but his lack of explosiveness was easily detectible throughout the week of practice.
    Tight ends
    1. Fred Davis, USC (6-2 5/8, 250)
    2. Jacob Tamme, Kentucky (6-3 3/4, 234)
    3. Martin Rucker, Missouri (6-4 3/4, 248)
    4. Brad Cottam, Tennessee (6-7 5/8, 271)
    5. Kellen Davis, Michigan State (6-6 1/4, 259)
    6. Cole Bennett, Auburn (6-4 1/8, 246)
    Davis was clearly the best athlete prior to suffering a mild ankle injury in the middle of the week. Tamme showed good speed and solid hands throughout the week but he's vastly undersized as a blocker and struggled to get off the press versus stronger linebackers during unit drills. He gave up ground to other senior tight ends such as Rucker, Cottam and Davis. Rucker failed to wow anyone with his athleticism but he was reliable as a short-to-intermediate receiver. Cottam improved his stock the most, displaying an excellent combination of size, strength, quickness and hands, but five surgeries during his collegiate career are bound to haunt him on draft weekend. Davis looks the part physically and flashes some playmaking skills but his effort and technique are both inconsistent.
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    He is not a dominant force but Sam Baker finds a way to get the job done.
    Offensive tackles
    1. Chris Williams, Vanderbilt (6-6 1/8, 320)
    2. Sam Baker, USC (6-4 1/2, 308)
    3. Carl Nicks, Nebraska (6-4 7/8, 343)
    4. Gosder Cherilus, Boston College (6-6 5/8, 315)
    5. Barry Richardson, Clemson, (6-6 3/8, 331)
    6. Oniel Cousins, UTEP (6-4 1/8, 301)
    7. Kirk Barton, Ohio State (6-4 3/8, 303)
    8. Michael McGlynn, Pittsburgh (6-4 3/8, 309)
    Williams lacks explosive power but we thought he was the most complete lineman at this year's Senior Bowl, which is why we upgraded him to the top spot. Baker lost a bit of ground but is still in the running for a first-round selection. He fails to dominate during one-on-one drills but he finds ways to execute when it counts in game conditions. He's one of the more intriguing prospects to study and is sure to give NFL scouts some sleepless nights between now and draft meetings. Nicks and Cherilus also impressed scouts with their natural ability and consistent effort throughout the week. Nicks has the natural tools to eventually develop into a left tackle starter in the NFL but he's less polished than Cherilus, whose home at the next level will be on the right side.
    Guards
    1. Roy Schuening, Oregon State (6-3 5/8, 308)
    2. Drew Radovich, USC (6-4 3/8, 302)
    3. Heath Benedict, Newberry College (6-4 3/4, 321)
    4. Robert Felton, Arkansas (6-3 7/8, 313)
    5. Chad Rinehart, Northern Iowa (6-5 1/4, 317)
    All five of these guards should come off the board between the second and fifth rounds of the upcoming draft. Schuening should be the first senior selected, likely behind Virginia junior Branden Albert. Radovich is not overly explosive but he showed very consistent feet as one of the top interior linemen at this year's Senior Bowl. Benedict spent most of his time at tackle and flashes some developmental upside. However, the D-II prospect projects far better inside at guard, where he can be protected.
    Centers
    1. Mike Pollak, Arizona State (6-3 3/8, 299)
    2. Steven Justice, Wake Forest (6-3 1/4, 289)
    3. John Sullivan, Notre Dame (6-3 3/8, 284)
    4. Kory Lichtensteiger, Bowling Green (6-2 3/8, 296)
    5. Cody Wallace, Texas A&M (6-4 1/8, 290)
    Pollak and Sullivan made the most of their opportunities. Pollak proved to be a consistent performer with adequate mobility and impressive upper-body strength. Sullivan climbed back into the top three at the position by showcasing his powerful run blocking skills and solid overall technique. Justice won't be a good fit for every team because he's not strong enough to anchor versus a 3-4 nose tackle, but teams with smaller offensive lines such as the Broncos should covet him in the third-round range. Lichtensteiger was solid but failed to blow anyone away with his physical skills. Finally, Wallace struggled as much as any offensive lineman at this year's Senior Bowl. He has a lot of ground to make up between now and April's draft.
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  4. RMANCIL

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    Defensive tackles
    1. Sedrick Ellis, USC (6-0 7/8, 308)
    2. Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina (6-4 1/2, 308)
    3. Marcus Harrison, Arkansas (6-2 1/4, 290)
    4. Dre Moore, Maryland (6-4 1/8, 307)
    5. Red Bryant, Texas A&M (6-4 3/8, 326)
    6. Trevor Laws, Notre Dame (6-0 7/8, 297)
    7. Andre Fluellen, Florida State (6-1 7/8, 285)
    8. DeMario Pressley, NC State (6-3 1/4, 300)
    Scouts expected Ellis to dominate this week and he didn't disappoint. Not only was he the best defensive lineman in Mobile, he was the best overall player. At this point he looks like a lock to go in the top 10 and could very well crack the top five before all is said and done. While both Balmer and Fluellen sustained hamstring injuries, Balmer played well before he got hurt on Tuesday and Fluellen showed some toughness by turning in a strong showing despite being banged up. Another player that made the most of his opportunity was Laws, who certainly isn't the most talented player listed here but one who plays from the snap until the whistle and showed well in the game.
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    Lawrence Jackson was the most complete defensive end on the field in Mobile.
    Defensive ends
    1. Lawrence Jackson, USC (6-4 3/8, 261)
    2. Darrell Robertson, Georgia Tech (6-3 7/8, 247)
    3. Jeremy Thompson, Wake Forest (6-4 3/8, 264)
    4. Clifford Avril, Purdue (6-3, 252)
    5. Jason Jones, Eastern Michigan (6-5 1/8, 272)
    6. Kendall Langford, Hampton (6-5 3/8, 275)
    7. Chris Ellis, Virginia Tech (6-4 1/4, 260)
    8. Wallace Gilberry, Alabama (6-2 1/2, 263)
    Jackson leaves Mobile looking like late-first or early-second round pick, and for good reason. He was the most complete player at the position, showing the ability to get to the quarterback and anchor against the run. The defensive end who improved his stock the most this week was Robertson, whose non-stop motor and pass-rushing abilities turned some heads. As far as the two small-school prospects go, Langford and Jones held their own and proved that they have what it takes to develop into effective 3-4 ends. However, it has to be said that not one of these players emerged as an elite edge rusher. Additionally, Gilberry did little to stand out on the field except getting flagged for a late hit during the game.
    Inside linebackers
    1. Dan Connor, Penn State (6-2 5/8, 233)
    2. Philip Wheeler, Georgia Tech (6-2, 245)
    3. Ben Moffitt, South Florida (6-1, 231
    4. Beau Bell, UNLV (6-1 5/8, 243)
    Connor isn't a great athlete by NFL standards but he proved he isn't stiff either, as he moved far better than expected. His game-high nine tackles and interception in the game won't hurt his first-round chances, either. Meanwhile, Wheeler looked great between the tackles and attacking the line of scrimmage but problems holding up in coverage may cause him to slip to the third round. In addition, Bell sustained a leg injury and didn't show great athletic ability when he was healthy.
    Outside linebackers
    1. Keith Rivers, USC (6-1 7/8, 236)
    2. Ali Highsmith, LSU (5-10 5/8, 230)
    3. Xavier Adibi, Virginia Tech (6-1 5/8, 220)
    4. Bruce Davis, UCLA (6-2 5/8, 241)
    5. Jordon Dizon, Colorado (5-11 7/8, 228)
    6. Wesley Woodyard, Kentucky (6-0 5/8, 219)
    7. Shawn Crable, Michigan (6-5 1/8, 241)
    8. Titus Brown, Mississippi State (6-2 5/8, 239)
    This is without question the most talented group from top to bottom, and the top three could all come off the board in the first round. While Rivers is the most complete player, Adibi and Highsmith are athletic and fly around the field. Davis struggled a bit but it's worth pointing out that he wisely moved from end to outside linebacker. His chances of succeeding at the NFL level are far greater at linebacker and playing there this week shows NFL front offices he is willing to make the move. Dizon and Woodyard simply aren't big enough to be considered viable first-day draft picks and will likely slide to the fourth round. However, both impressed scouts with their relentlessness and noses for the ball this week. It was a tough week for Crable, though, who struggled early and then sustained a back injury that sidelined him for the second half of the week.
    Cornerbacks
    1. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tennessee State (6-1 3/8, 183)
    2. Leodis McKelvin, Troy (5-10 5/8, 190)
    3. Tracy Porter, Indiana (5-10 5/8, 184)
    4. Patrick Lee, Auburn (5-11 7/8, 194)
    5. Charles Godfrey, Iowa (5-11 3/4, 207)
    6. Terrell Thomas, USC (6-0 3/8, 197)
    7. Chevis Jackson, LSU (6-0 7/8, 240)
    8. Terrence Wheatley, Colorado (5-9 3/8, 187)
    9. Dejuan Tribble, Boston College (5-8 1/2, 190)
    Although not the most talented, this was arguably the most competitive group of the week with Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin and Porter all making their pitches for best corner honors. Rodgers-Cromartie played free safety as well as corner and picked a pass off in the game. In fact, he looked so good this week he could move into the first round. McKelvin had a strong week, too. He held his own in coverage and showed scouts he can contribute as a return specialist, but he sustained an injury that prevented him from playing in the game.
    Porter arguably showed better cover skills than both Rodgers-Cromartie and McKelvin but he doesn't have great size and isn't a great run defender. Moving down the list, it looks like Godfrey, Thomas and Jackson are best suited to play in Cover 2 schemes because of their problems turning and running with receivers. In addition, Tribble's stock took a big hit this week because of his inability to open his hips and stay with receivers when forced to turn and run.
    Safeties
    1. Thomas DeCoud, California (6-1 1/2, 196)
    2. Marcus Griffin, Texas (6-1 1/8, 233)
    3. Simeon Castille, Alabama (5-11 7/8, 190)
    4. Quintin Demps, UTEP (5-11 3/4, 203)
    5. Tom Zbikowski, Notre Dame (5-11 1/8, 209)
    6. Jamar Adams, Michigan (6-2 1/4, 209)
    7. D.J. Wolfe, Oklahoma (5-10 3/4, 200)
    Considering the lack of depth and overall talent at safety this year, it came as little surprise that this group was underwhelming during Senior Bowl week. It's also important to point out that a few corners played safety during the week. Of the pure safeties, DeCoud had the most complete skills and Griffin looked more athletic than his size would indicate. Additionally, Zibikowski showed he can be a valuable special teams player and adequate reserve on defense. That said, it's unlikely any of these safeties will come off the board in the first two rounds.
     
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    Your right we have LT at RB and he is great. Answer me this just how many seasons will LT play ?

    Can Sproles be the franchise back and stay healthy if LT went down?

    How many franchise backs are drafted in the late 1st round or lower year in year out?

    Do you remember the 1995 season?

    The Chargers very well may take another position with the pick in the 1st round however the need is real other wise Smith would not have kept Turner forgoing the 1st round draft pick.

    Turner will leave as he can start for another team and he will get a much bigger pay day . If we select a RB with the 27 th pick he will come in at 2 -2.7 mill avg per season for the next 5 seasons.
     
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    Your right we have LT at RB and he is great. Answer me this just how many seasons will LT play ?

    Can Sproles be the franchise back and stay healthy if LT went down?

    How many franchise backs are drafted in the late 1st round or lower year in year out?

    Do you remember the 1995 season?

    The Chargers very well may take another position with the pick in the 1st round however the need is real other wise Smith would not have kept Turner forgoing the 1st round draft pick.

    Turner will leave as he can start for another team and he will get a much bigger pay day . If we select a RB with the 27 th pick he will come in at 2 -2.7 mill avg per season for the next 5 seasons.
     
  7. SanDiegoRon

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    ... at least one guy agrees with me on Williams... :lol:

    ... OT Nicks & OG Schuening - the bad boys of the line, 2 Dielman-like players... will either get out of rd 2... they'd sure take care of the right side... :lol:
     
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    there ya go Mr. Mayock, you can now KMA....:icon_rofl:

    http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlgamereport.htm

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    Perhaps the most interesting position on view in Saturday’s game was the offensive line which generally had been dominated during the week of practices. In the actual game, though, both the North and South offensive lines were more consistent although there are still plenty of questions to answer up front. A number of draft observers, for example, rate Vanderbilt OT Chris Williams as the #3 player at the position in the 2008 draft and a possible mid-to-late first rounder this coming April. After a somewhat up-and-down week of practice, the hulking Williams had a somewhat up-and-down game on Saturday. No question that Williams is a big with a huge wingspan. He also sets up quickly and got good arm extension. Too often, though, on his initial plant, Williams’ feet were too wide apart that limited his mobility, particularly in staying with a wide outside rush. At the same time, while Williams did a nice job sealing off blocking for the running game, he seldom really drove anyone off the line of scrimmage; Williams isn‘t also going to make many blocks in space, although he can get off the line of scrimmage.

    In fact, the most impressive offensive lineman on Saturday was Nebraska OT Carl Nicks. The 343-pound Nicks showed excellent feet for a man that size as he slid easily about the pocket and showed good balance and change of direction skills. Nicks, who looks like he could also fit at the next level as a pulling OG, used his hands well and got a nice pop at the point of attack.


    *** the Bolts interviewed Nicks, I believe... AJ loves those "nasty" o-lineman...
     
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    Scott Wright's latest flavor of the week - Balmer last week...

    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft2.html

    27. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS - REGGIE SMITH DB | Oklahoma | Scouting Report
    Looking at their depth chart it is somewhat difficult to pinpoint many glaring needs for the Chargers. Difficult but not impossible.

    One area that may be a concern is the secondary, where safety Marlon McCree has been a disappointment and will likely be shown the door. Enter Reggie Smith, who played safety earlier in his college career before recently moving to corner in '07 and he could project to either position at the pro level. Smith is physical, has great range and is a real playmaker and you have to think his versatility would be a welcome addition to San Diego's defensive backfield.

    Smith & Weddle would make for a very athletic secondary...
     
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    He and kenny phillips are the only two DBs that I'd get over an OT/NT. I would prefer a heavier safety backfield but being honest, with Smith and Weddle we could legitimately cover four WRs man to man without going into a dime package.

    I didn't like seeing Sims go to the Raiders though - and Todd McShay has us picking Cherilus but there's no Phillips in the mock draft
     
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    I'm pissed that my first choice, Chris Williams OT Vandy is rising so fast.... guess the words out... I see he supplanted Otah as the #3 OT... damn,... Cherilus seems to be dropping like a rock... Nicks has passed him in some circles...

    yeah, I like Sims... post combine, he'll climb into rd 1... I have him the #3 DT...

    am starting to spend (too much) time on second day picks - cuz that's what we've got... let me drop a few names on ya, see what you think...

    check out this kid, I have him in rd 6, so I'll be tracking his combine... G.Chukwu, DT/NT, 6-1 312 5.02, Rice...

    but one guy I REALLY like is J. Dingle, 6-3 273 4.84, West Virginia... would love to get him second day to play 3-4 DE...

    a coupla of late rd right tackles: B.Keith, 6-5 349 5.36, N. Iowa (5th) and F.Dunbar, 6-6 345 5.45, M.Tenn.St. (7th)...

    at FS, Corey Lynch, 6-1 204 4.64, AppalachianSt... his speed suxx (pre-combine), but his production is eye-popping... if he gets below 4.55 at the combine, then well....

    it's starting to get fun... 2 weeks till the combine... onna these years I'm gonna go...
     
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    the FS from Appalachian State, two things
    1. Division IIA players only get noticed if they put up insane numbers
    2. We got a FS in Weddle, we need a SS

    Have you heard about Phillips dropping? I still can't understand why he's been left off the McShay draft
     
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    On the GBND

    1st Round
    #
    Team
    Player
    POS
    School

    1 Miami
    Chris Long
    DE
    Virginia

    2 St. Louis Jake Long
    OT
    Michigan

    3F
    Oakland
    Darren McFadden
    RB
    Arkansas

    4F
    Atlanta
    Matt Ryan
    QB
    Boston College

    5F Kansas City Glenn Dorsey
    DT
    LSU

    6
    New York Jets Sedrick Ellis
    DT
    Southern California

    7 New England (from San Francisco) Ryan Clady
    OT
    Boise State

    8
    Baltimore Vernon Ghoston
    LB
    Ohio State

    9
    Cincinnati Derrick Harvey
    DE
    Florida

    10 New Orleans Mike Jenkins
    CB
    South Florida

    11 Buffalo Leodis McKelvin
    CB
    Troy

    12 Denver Chris Williams
    OT
    Vanderbilt

    13 Carolina Phillip Merling
    DE
    Georgia Tech

    14 Chicago Jonathan Stewart
    RB
    Oregon

    15
    Detroit Kentwan Balmer
    DT
    North Carolina

    16 Arizona Rashard Mendenhall
    RB
    Illinois

    17
    Minnesota Brian Brohm
    QB
    Louisville

    18 Houston Felix Jones
    RB
    Arkansas

    19 Philadelphia Kenny Phillips
    DB
    Miami

    20 Tampa Bay Malcolm Kelly
    WR
    Oklahoma

    21 Washington Calais Campbell
    DE
    Miami

    22
    Dallas (from Cleveland) Aqib Talib
    DB
    Kansas

    23
    Pittsburgh Jeff Otah
    OT
    Pittsburgh

    24 Tennessee DeSean Jackson
    WR
    California

    25
    Seattle Mario Manningham
    WR
    Michigan

    26 Jacksonville Limas Sweed
    WR
    Texas

    27 San Diego Keith Rivers
    LB
    Southern California
    28
    Dallas
    James Hardy
    WR
    Indiana

    29
    San Francisco (from Indianapolis) Devin Thomas
    WR
    Michigan State

    30 Green Bay Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie ( I at this point like him a lot and would take him over Rivers) CB
    Tennessee State

    x
    New England (pick forfeited)



    31 New York Giants Dan Connor same here I think he would be above Rivers LB
    Penn State


    2nd Round
    #
    Team
    Player
    POS
    School

    32 Miami
    Sam Baker
    OT
    Southern California

    33 St. Louis Quentin Groves
    DE
    Auburn

    34F
    Atlanta Tracy Porter
    CB
    Indiana

    35F Kansas City
    Carl Nicks
    OT
    Nebraska

    36 New York Jets Fred Davis
    TE
    Southern California

    37F Oakland Pat Sims
    DT
    Auburn

    38 Baltimore Charles Godfrey
    CB
    Iowa

    39
    San Francisco Gosder Cherilus I like him a lot
    OT Boston College

    40 New Orleans Ali Highsmith
    LB
    LSU

    41 Buffalo Xavier Adibi
    LB
    Virginia Tech

    42 Denver Reggie Smith I have not seen much on him but.....
    DB
    Oklahoma

    43 Carolina Earl Bennett
    WR
    Vanderbilt
    44 Chicago Patrick Lee
    CB
    Auburn

    45
    Detroit Chris Johnson RB
    East Carolina
    46 Cincinnati Letroy Guion DT Florida State
    47
    Minnesota Andre Caldwell
    WR
    Florida

    48 Atlanta (from Houston) Jamaal Charles if this guy falls I would trade to get him in fact I think he has a shot in the 1srt round.
    RB
    Texas

    49 Philadelphia Early Doucet
    WR
    LSU

    50
    Arizona Antoine Cason
    CB
    Arizona

    51 Washington Adarius Bowman
    WR
    Oklahoma State

    52 Tampa Bay DeJuan Tribble
    CB
    Boston College

    53
    Pittsburgh Jason Jones
    DE
    Eastern Michigan

    54 Tennessee Terrell Thomas
    CB
    Southern California

    55
    Seattle Ray Rice
    RB
    Rutgers

    56
    Cleveland
    Steve Slaton
    RB
    West Virginia

    57 Miami (from San Diego) Beau Bell this guy for Chambers yea I like that deal!!!! LB
    UNLV

    58 Jacksonville Chris Ellis
    DE
    Virginia Tech

    59
    Indianapolis
    Erin Henderson
    LB
    Maryland
    60
    Green Bay John Carlson
    TE
    Notre Dame

    61 Dallas Anthony Collis
    OT
    Kansas

    62 New England
    Curtis Lofton
    LB
    Oklahoma

    63
    New York Giants Donnie Avery
    WR
    Houston


    Chargers sure would love to have a 2nd round pick.





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    Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina is a player who has risen up the boards from no where after the end of the season. He better do something special at the combine other wise I don't buy it.

    In this mock I would jump on Miami Dolphins: Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas who they have sliding to round 2# I don't see that in fact he should be long gone before we pick.

    DaJuan Morgan, FS, N.C. State is another player who is getting little love in the press but our buddy over at N.F.L.COM RATES HIM 1#

    Watch Red Bryant, NT, Texas A&M climb up the boards this mock has him in the 2round along with Ahtyba Rubin, NT, Iowa State who by all past accounts is a 5th round pick. Funny how players move up these mocks in the off season.
     
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    Relax Ron, we havent even had the combines yet. No reason to panic.
    When the combine starts and Williams arm's measure 32 3/4 " he will start to fall again :lol:
     
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    :lol: ... funny guy... I'd still take him...

    yeah, the combine... might have to get "the network" so I can tape em... I'm curious how Zack Bowman runs...
     
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    :lol: ... funny guy... I'd still take him...

    yeah, the combine... might have to get "the network" so I can tape em... I'm curious how Zack Bowman runs...
     
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    With the Senior Bowl having come and gone and the NFL combine still more than two weeks away, the NFL draft process is in a quiet period right now. That doesn't mean things aren't changing, though.


    The No. 1 spot in Scouts Inc.'s mock draft has changed hands, with Boston College QB Matt Ryan moving up from No. 3 and landing with the Miami Dolphins. The player Ryan replaces, LSU DT Glenn Dorsey, drops to the Oakland Raiders at No. 4. Arkansas RB Darren McFadden, who is rated as the best overall prospect in the 2008 class, moves up to Ryan's former spot. Kentucky QB Andre' Woodson takes the biggest fall after his struggles at the Senior Bowl, dropping from 14th all the way out of the first round.

    However, linemen still occupy three of the top five spots and six of the top 10. There are 14 juniors in this first-round projection as well, including a run of seven straight underclassmen beginning at No. 15.

    Much will change between now and the draft in April, but here is how I see things shaking out at this early juncture:

    Note: * denotes underclassman; ** denotes teams that will decide draft order by coin flip at NFL combine


    1. Miami Dolphins -- Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
    Record: 1-15 | Needs: OT, DL, ILB, CB, QB
    Previous mock selection: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
    Assuming for our purposes that the Dolphins are unable to trade down, they will have a difficult decision to make between Ryan, DE Chris Long, OT Jake Long and DT Glenn Dorsey. Either of the Longs makes sense, considering offensive tackle and defensive line are two of the team's biggest needs. Dorsey is considered by many to be the No. 2 player in this year's class, but he's not an ideal fit for a 3-4 defensive scheme and it doesn't make financial sense to spend No. 1-type money on a lineman who will be asked to take up space. That's why Ryan makes a lot of sense.


    At the end of the day, it will come down to Bill Parcells' opinion of current Miami QB John Beck, whom the former Dolphins regime drafted in the second round last year. If Parcells thinks he can win with Beck, Jake Long would be the next best option, followed by Chris Long, then Dorsey. If not, Ryan should be the selection. He has all the physical tools of a franchise quarterback and, most importantly, he possesses rare intangibles.



    2. St. Louis Rams -- Chris Long, DE, Virginia
    Record: 3-13 | Needs: DE, G/OT, CB, OLB, WR
    Previous mock selection: Same
    The season-ending injury to perennial Pro Bowl tackle Orlando Pace and the Rams' overall poor play along the offensive line in 2007-08 make Jake Long a possibility with this pick. But assuming Pace returns to form, the Rams have a much bigger need along the interior of their offensive line, and tackle can be addressed in free agency or in later rounds of the draft.

    Don't be surprised, then, if St. Louis goes with the other Long at No. 2. Chris is not a prototypical edge rusher, but he is a dominant playmaker with rare versatility and a motor that never quits. The Rams could solidify their defensive line for years to come by teaming him with last year's first-round selection, DT Adam Carriker.


    3. Atlanta Falcons** -- Darren McFadden*, RB, Arkansas
    Record: 4-12 | Needs: QB, OT, DT, RB, S
    Previous mock selection: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
    Ryan should be the Falcons' selection if he is available, but if he is not, Atlanta will have to make a difficult decision among McFadden, Dorsey and Jake Long. The team has needs at all three positions, so this would be tough choice. McFadden is the top prospect on most teams' draft boards, though, so it is easy to envision this scenario playing out. McFadden could provide the type of offensive boost for the Falcons that Adrian Peterson gave the Vikings last season. That type of potential is tough to pass up.


    4. Oakland Raiders** -- Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
    Record: 4-12 | Needs: OT, DT, WR, DE, RB
    Previous mock selection: Darren McFadden*, RB, Arkansas
    The Raiders are financially strapped and will not want to dish out top-five money one year after selecting QB JaMarcus Russell with the top overall pick. If McFadden still is on the board, don't count out a blockbuster trade by owner Al Davis, since Cowboys owner and Arkansas alum Jerry Jones already has made his interest known. If Oakland is stuck here with McFadden gone, it will need to choose between Dorsey and Jake Long. While Long is worth the pick, Dorsey is the higher-rated player. He could provide the type of interior disruption the Raiders' defense has been lacking and fill in nicely for Warren Sapp, who announced his retirement following the 2007 season.


    5. Kansas City Chiefs** -- Jake Long, OT, Michigan
    Record: 4-12 | Needs: OT, DE, C, WR, CB
    Previous mock selection: Same
    Quarterback still is a question mark, but the Chiefs' No. 1 priority this offseason should be solidifying their offensive front. Long is unquestionably the most dominant offensive lineman in the 2008 class and could help Kansas City achieve its goal in a hurry. He has the versatility to play either right or left tackle, and his combination of size, technique, athletic ability and a mean streak would improve the Chiefs' line almost immediately.


    6. New York Jets -- Vernon Gholston*, DE, Ohio State
    Record: 4-12 | Needs: WR, NT, OLB, ILB, G
    Projected pick: Same
    This could be a bit of a reach for Gholston, who flashes top-10 talent in some games (three sacks against Michigan this season) but disappears in too many others. However, don't be surprised if he works his way into the top 10 simply because this year's crop of elite edge rushers does not meet the level of demand. That said, Gholston is one of the premier pass-rushing prospects in the 2008 class, and he would be the right fit as a rush linebacker in the Jets' 3-4 scheme.




    7. N.E. Patriots (from 5-11 San Francisco) -- Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
    Record: 18-1 | Needs: ILB, CB, OLB, OL depth
    Previous mock selection: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
    The Patriots would like to inject some youth at inside linebacker, but there isn't a player worth selecting this high, with USC's Rey Maualuga and Ohio State's James Laurinaitis both returning to school in the fall. The next priority is to find a replacement for Asante Samuel, a free agent who can't be franchised for a second consecutive year. McKelvin currently is the top-rated cornerback in a 2008 crop that is deep but lacks elite talent atop the board. As always, look for the Patriots to shop this pick heavily.


    8. Baltimore Ravens -- Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
    Record: 5-11 | Needs: CB, QB, OLB, LOT, DT
    Previous mock selection: Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
    Baltimore would like to use this pick to put an end to a seemingly endless pursuit for a franchise quarterback. Unfortunately, there isn't one worth selecting here with Ryan off the board. Instead, the Ravens could go with the best value on the board (Ellis) or fill a hole at either cornerback (Mike Jenkins) or left tackle (Ryan Clady). Knowing the Ravens' draft-day discipline, Ellis will be the pick in this scenario.




    9. Cincinnati Bengals -- Derrick Harvey*, DE, Florida
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: DT, LB, OT, DE, TE
    Previous mock selection: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
    The Bengals have a much bigger need for interior help, but if Dorsey and Ellis are gone, there isn't a defensive tackle worth drafting at No. 9. Harvey is a bit of a reach here, but coach Marvin Lewis' defense is starving for potential playmakers, and Harvey possesses the pass-rushing skills and frame to develop into an impact starter in the NFL.




    10. New Orleans Saints -- Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: CB, MLB, DT, OLB, TE
    Previous mock selection: Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
    Cornerback and linebacker are the Saints' biggest areas of need, and Jenkins is the best athlete available at those positions. His combination of size, speed and athleticism is outstanding, and his recognition skills continue to improve each season. Jenkins also brings versatility to the table, since he can play some safety and chip in on returns. If New Orleans uses this pick on a corner, it should find much better value at linebacker early in Round 2.




    11. Buffalo Bills -- Malcolm Kelly*, WR, Oklahoma
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: WR, CB, TE, LB, DT
    Previous mock selection: DeSean Jackson*, WR, California
    Kelly is the type of big receiver the Bills need as a complement to current wideout Lee Evans. Kelly is unusually fluid for a bigger wideout and he might have the strongest hands of any player in the 2008 draft. However, Jackson could join forces with RB Marshawn Lynch to give Buffalo one of the most exciting young offensive skill groups in the NFL.


    12. Denver Broncos -- Ryan Clady*, OT, Boise State
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: OT, DT, S, MLB, G
    Previous mock selection: Same
    Clady still is improving his strength, but he possesses impressive feet to go along with his enormous wingspan and huge frame. He would be an ideal fit in Denver's famed zone-blocking scheme and give a boost to the Broncos' running game.


    13. Carolina Panthers -- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: QB, DE, OT, WR, OLB
    Previous mock selection: Calais Campbell*, DE, Miami
    Instead of drafting a young signal-caller who will need time to develop, look for the Panthers to bring in veteran competition for current QB Matt Moore, who showed some positive signs late in the season. Drafting a defensive end like Campbell to fill a need is a possibility, but don't be surprised if the team looks to fill a hole at offensive tackle, where Travelle Wharton and Jordan Gross are set to become free agents.
     
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    14. Chicago Bears -- Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: QB, LOT, DT, G, RB
    Previous mock selection: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
    The Bears will have a tough decision to make if Brohm still is available at No. 14. There has been a lot of talk about the Bears going in a different direction with this pick, including offensive and defensive tackle. And while that makes a lot of sense, I still wouldn't rule out Brohm just yet. His stock is likely to soar between now and April's draft because he should impress scouts with his overall passing efficiency and football intelligence during the combine and individual workouts.


    15. Detroit Lions -- Aqib Talib*, CB, Kansas
    Record: 7-9 | Needs: ROT, G, CB, S, DE
    Projected pick: Same
    The Lions will be selecting outside of the top 10 for the first time since 2001, and now the trick is to find quality players this far down the line. The Lions' secondary is undermanned and would welcome the services of Talib, who is a versatile, fluid athlete with excellent size and ball skills. His elite athleticism was on display when returned an interception 100 yards for a touchdown this season, and he also saw some snaps on offense.


    16. Arizona Cardinals -- Rashard Mendenhall*, RB, Illinois
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, OLB, TE, RB, DE
    Previous mock selection: Jonathan Stewart*, RB, Oregon
    The Cardinals have more pressing needs on the other side of the ball -- defensive tackle and cornerback -- but there isn't an available player at those positions who is as valuable as Mendenhall. He has the size, burst and versatility to eventually develop into an every-down starter. In the meantime, Mendenhall and Edgerrin James would make a heck of a 1-2 punch for the next year or two.


    17. Minnesota Vikings -- DeSean Jackson*, WR/RS, California
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: DE, WR, S, QB, TE
    Previous mock selection: Derrick Harvey*, DE, Florida
    Believe it or not, Minnesota still is in the market for help at wide receiver and defensive end, despite investing first- or second-round picks in the past four drafts on WRs Troy Williamson (2005) and Sidney Rice (2007), and DEs Kenechi Udeze (2004) and Erasmus James (2005). Jackson still has room to improve as a route runner, and he must get stronger in order to endure a grueling 16-game NFL schedule, but his home run ability after the catch, on vertical routes and on punt returns will be tempting for teams drafting in the top 20 overall.


    18. Houston Texans -- Jonathan Stewart*, RB, Oregon
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, RB, WR, S, LOT, G
    Previous mock selection: Kenny Phillips*, S, Miami
    The Texans need a featured back to go along with QB Matt Schaub and WR Andre Johnson, and Stewart has the bulk, burst and versatility to quickly fill that role. He also could offer a boost in the kickoff return game.


    19. Philadelphia Eagles -- Calais Campbell*, DE, Miami
    Record: 8-8 | Needs: WR, TE, DE, OT/G, S, LB
    Previous mock selection: Malcolm Kelly*, WR, Oklahoma
    Philadelphia OTs Jon Runyan and William Thomas aren't getting any younger, so Pittsburgh OT Jeff Otah is a possibility here. The Eagles also are in search of a home run threat at wide receiver, so don't count out Michigan's Mario Manningham. However, there aren't that many 6-foot-8, 280-pound defensive ends with Campbell's athleticism coming out of the college ranks these days, so don't be surprised if the Eagles take a flyer on this unpolished but supremely talented end.


    20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Mario Manningham*, WR, Michigan
    Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, OT, OLB, CB, QB
    Previous mock selection: Sam Baker, OT, USC
    Coach John Gruden will be pressing general manager Bruce Allen for a young playmaker at wide receiver, and Allen knows Manningham is capable of special things in the NFL. If Manningham gets with a coach like Gruden at the next level, he could emerge as the most productive wideout from a very talented 2008 class.




    21. Washington Redskins -- Phillip Merling*, DE, Clemson
    Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, DE, S, OT, CB
    Previous mock selection: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
    Sweed is a possibility here since wide receiver is on the short list of big needs for the Redskins, but Merling is a fast-rising junior prospect who is shooting up the draft boards of many NFL teams. The more we study film of him, the more we like his combination of size (6-4, 275), power and agility, and his ability to get into opposing backfields. Merling has the tools to become an impact starter in the next couple of seasons and would fill an area of need for Washington.


    22. Dallas Cowboys (from 10-6 Cleveland) -- Sam Baker, OT, USC
    Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, WR, OT, RB, ILB
    Previous mock selection: Mario Manningham*, WR, Michigan
    Assuming owner Jerry Jones doesn't package picks to trade up, expect Dallas to use its two picks to address needs at corner, receiver, offensive tackle and possibly running back. Baker's stock is dropping after an injury-plagued senior season and a mediocre showing at the Senior Bowl, but he possesses the athleticism and technique to surprise a lot of people at the next level.


    23. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
    Record: 10-6 | Needs: OT, C, DE (3-4), G, RB
    Previous mock selection: Same
    The Steelers could use two of their first three picks on offensive linemen. They have bigger holes to fill inside, but Otah is far and away the best lineman available in this scenario. Interior help is available for a good value in later rounds (Oregon State G Roy Schuening, and centers Mike Pollak of Arizona State and John Sullivan of Notre Dame).


    24. Tennessee Titans -- Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
    Record: 10-6 | Needs: WR, CB, TE, WR, OL
    Previous mock selection: Early Doucet, WR, LSU
    The Titans need to draft a legitimate weapon for QB Vince Young to target in the passing attack, and who would be better than Young's former college teammate? Sweed could slip a bit due to a wrist injury that cut his senior season short and was re-aggravated at the Senior Bowl. However, when Sweed is healthy, he is arguably the most physically gifted receiver in this year's class. The 6-4, 217-pounder is worth the risk, in my opinion.


    25. Seattle Seahawks -- Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
    Record: 10-6 | Needs: ROT, DT, RB, TE, G
    Previous mock selection: Rashard Mendenhall*, RB, Illinois
    It is unlikely current Seattle starting RB Shaun Alexander will ever return to his 2005 MVP form, and backup Maurice Morris has proved to be at his best when limited to a complementary role. However, with McFadden, Stewart and Mendenhall all off the board, look for the Seahawks to go in a different direction here. Balmer is a fast-rising prospect with very good size, power and quickness. He would be a welcome addition to Seattle's thin interior defensive line.


    26. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Early Doucet, WR, LSU
    Record: 11-5 | Needs: WR, DE, SS, CB
    Previous mock selection: Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn
    The Jaguars should use this pick on the best available receiver or pass-rusher. Groves will be a possibility if he checks out physically at the combine. Doucet is another solid choice this late in the first round, however. While he is unlikely to emerge as anything more than a No. 2 receiver in the NFL, Doucet possesses the quickness and run-after-catch ability to complement Jacksonville's group of bigger receivers.


    27. San Diego Chargers -- Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
    Record: 11-5 | Needs: RG/ROT, NT, FB, RB
    Previous mock selection: Dan Connor, MLB, Penn State
    The Chargers can select the best available athlete if they want, but the right side of their offensive line could use an upgrade, and Cherilus projects as a solid starting right tackle in the NFL. Cherilus' stock is on the rise following his impressive showing at the Senior Bowl.


    28. Dallas Cowboys -- Felix Jones*, RB, Arkansas
    Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, WR, OT, ILB, RB
    Previous mock selection: Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
    If owner Jerry Jones can't strike a deal for McFadden, he could settle for Arkansas' other first-round running back prospect. Felix Jones is a speedster who could complement current Dallas RB Marion Barber well and provide a home run threat in the return game.
     
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    Funny how Todd McShay is pitching Ryan for the fish. You know the fish want to drum up a trade and this seems like a pretty lame pr attempt in that effort.

    Don't be surprised when the fish unable to trade down select Darren McFadden*, RB, Arkansas with the 1st pick. Best player on the board , RB Brown coming off injury and the N.F.L. favoring a two back attack it only makes since.

    Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College from what I have seen isn't even the best QB in this draft. We all know QB is the marquee position and Ryan has the best publicity in this draft but he just isn't ready.

    If the fish pass on Ryan you most likely will see him fly down the draft board. Some think that the Falcons would take him however you can bet that the Falcons must hit in this draft to try and make up for the Vick disaster.

    If they play their cards close to the vest they will land one of the blue chip players and nab their QB in round 2#. McFadden*, Glenn Dorsey, Jake Long, OT, Chris Long, DE are the class of the draft. Makes since to take one and pay number 3# and save a bundle vs taking the QB who won't play any time soon and who is a big risk.

    If Ryan slides pass the Falcons then the Chiefs will take a look and while they have a real need owner Clark Hunt wants a playoff team in 2008. Brodie Croyle failed to take the job last season and frankly I have my doubts he is up too the task but GM Peterson drafted him 2006 and the jury is still out as they say. The Red men could take a OL and help the passing game as well as the run game. Jake Long will be the pick if he is on the board would be my bet.

    That would push Ryan down to the Ravens who need a QB unless they acquire one in trade or F.A. as old of a team as they are you know the window is closing and if Ozzie isn't sold 100% perhaps they pass as well.

    That would bring the QB needy Bears up and perhaps they gamble on Matt Ryan if they take a pass Ryan could fall out of the 1st round completely.

    Best QB in this draft............Josh Johnson QB 6'2" 195 SAN DIEGO
     
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    I said Nicks was the most consistent OL from the game and the practice sessions I watched. Still, I think he's a late 2nd to 3rd round talent - at best.

    None of the line guys were all that impressive.
     
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    oh please... you have been watching the action on the mocks, by draft day there could be 5 OTs selected in the first 40... even your boy Mayock has that many in his top 2 rds...

    I like Nicks also, just like Williams better... too bad the Bolts don't have a 2nd or 3rd or 4th... Saturdays draft day is a boring one-and-done... sure hope gawd can manufacture a 2...

    btw, Scott Wright said he'd have the list of Team Needs done today/tomorrow for those that are interested in mocking...

    edit: "my boy" is headed for #2... damnit..
    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=OT&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

    btw, this site, over the years, has been fairly accurate... and they turn off their "free" service during the combine...
     
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    Oh please yourself. I haven't looked at one single mock yet.

    Y'all are way too infatuatated with yourselves and this ****.
     
  24. Boltjolt

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    Yeah i know, and its irritating :tdown:
     
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    Scott finished his team needs... I sense he's a forum troller... :lol:

    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/teamneeds.html#kcc

    1. Safety: Marlon McCree has been a disappointment and won't be back in 2008 and Clinton Hart is more of a backup so they'll have to bring in someone to team with Eric Weddle next year and beyond.
    2. Defensive Line: They are fine when it comes to the starters but Luis Castillo has had a lot of trouble staying healthy and there is no depth behind Jamal Williams so if he gets hurt they're in big trouble.
    3. Offensive Line: Right tackle Shane Olivea took a step backwards in 2007 and was actually benched for Jeromey Clary, who is not the answer, and right guard Mike Goff won't be around for much longer.

    I think he's got em in the wrong order:
    1. Williams, ROT.... :lol:
    2. Sims, DE/NT...
    3. Smith, S/CB...

    :yes:
     
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    He does
    NT - definitely need a backup to Williams who's a stud
    OL - Right tackle, I still think Mrzucowski can be a damn good RG
    S - Weddle will be the FS and Hart's serviceable but will face competition from Paul Oliver

    Only way I could see us going safety is if Kenny Phillips dropped to us

    Edit: If he trolls this site for his information at least he's going to the best place to get it :lol:
     
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    Hey at least it keeps us off the streets and out of the bars. :lol:

    For the most part.............
     
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    Great Blue North

    February 8
    (12:01 AM): Eagles tag TE … Philadelphia has applied a franchise tag to TE L.J. Smith, who was scheduled to become a free agent at the end of the month. Thursday marked the first day of the offseason that teams could use the tag. Although Smith can receive offers from other teams, the tag gives the Eagles seven days to match. A team signing him would have to give up two first-round picks as compensation.

    Am I the only one ....franchise tag for L.J. Smith???


    Okie State TE in legal stew… Oklahoma State TE Brandon Pettigrew has been charged with assaulting a police officer, but will remain a part of the team while his court case plays out. The 6-6, 260-pound Pettigrew, who caught 35 passes for 540 yards and four touchdowns last season and actually considered entering the 2008 draft, was arrested last month when he allegedly elbowed a police officer in the chest after police attempted to break up a disturbance at a party. Pettigrew's next court appearance is scheduled for early March.

    Makes you wonder just what a player has to do to get the boot off a team. Do you folks remember the RB a few years ago who dragged his girl friend down a flight of stairs by the hair? Shockingly he turned out to be a draft bust something about anger management issues. ( Lawrence Phillips)

    Vols DB gets extra year… Tennessee safety Antonio Gaines has reportedly been granted a 6h year of eligibility after injuring his knee early in the 2007 season so long as he meets all progress-toward-degree requirements. #Gaines already was playing on extended eligibility when he tore a knee ligament in the second game of the 2007 season; he had taken a medical redshirt as a freshman in 2003 after surgery to repair an injury from high school.

    I wonder who has the longest career in college? Antonio has more tenure than a lot of the professors.


    Cromartie 2 sure is shooting up the draft boards since his senior bowl performance. He has the speed and size that apeals to A.J. This draft looks to be a pretty good one in the CB dept.

    Tracy Porter Indy who isn't as big but who is a little faster should also be on the board when the bolts select. Their has been some talk on Reggie Smith he has good size but he may lack the speed .

    Balmer DT is getting a lot of ink right now another player who slipped from the elite ranks down the draft boards who might get a close look is Calais Cambell. He is too tall for NT but he just might fit as a DE in the 3-4. 6-8 285 with 4.85 quickness he could help the rotation.

    The Chargers may not find a replacement for Williams in this draft they could perhaps find another DE who would allow Castillo and Igor to rotate some in the middle.

    I know that Igor is a bit tall for the position but his strength is such that on run downs he might be a option. I don't think any of the players like to play NT in the 3-4 as they get hammered.

    I know that most folks are betting against a RB of course this draft is loaded and while I lead the cheering section against keeping Mike Turner vs taking the trade/draft choice it looks to me like Smith feels that back up RB is extremly important . Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart are two backs who have gotten a lot of press but one other who I am watching is Jamaal Charles.

    He reminds me of LT coming out of college , his running style and cut back ability is a mirror image. Two weeks before the combine in Indy
     
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    At this early stage....which im sure ill change this several times till April. But til then , ill submit this little mock for us til we see what FA's if any we might sign.


    1. Gosder Cherilus, OT , Boston College
    5a. Ahtyba Rubin DT, Iowa st ( Groom for NT)
    5b.(comp pick)Dominique Barber, S, Minnesota
    6. Keilen Dykes , DT/DE , West Virgina ( to play DE)
    7. Cory Boyd , RB , South Carolina
     

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