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Chargers frustrated with poor tackling

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    Chargers not running from poor tackling

    Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008
    Chargers.com

    For the second-consecutive week, the Chargers left the field frustrated about the way they defended the run.

    “Whether it’s preseason or regular season, we want to stop the run,” linebacker Shaun Phillips said. “That’s one thing we pride ourselves on doing. We have to go back to the drawing board and find out what we need to correct.”

    A week after allowing 183 rushing yards at St. Louis, the Chargers gave up 162 to Seattle Monday night. The Seahawks averaged 5.1 yards per carry and ripped off eight runs of eight yards or more. Five of those eight long carries came with the Chargers’ first team defense on the field.

    “We need to tackle better,” Chargers Head Coach Norv Turner said. “When we see the film we’ll break it down and see where the breakdowns were. We need to get it fixed.”

    While there wasn’t a sense of panic, the Bolts were disappointed about their approach.

    “It’s just being a little bit more emotional, having a little bit more of an attitude when we step out on that field and coming out with a little more fire,” defensive end Luis Castillo said. “We’ll be fine.”

    The Chargers were playing without three-time Pro Bowl nose tackle Jamal Williams, who specialize in clogging the middle and making things difficult on opponents’ ground attack. Although Williams wasn’t in the lineup, Castillo put some of the blame on the defensive line.

    “It all starts up front,” Castillo said. “It starts with those three linemen. If we don’t control that offensive line, know them back and take care of business, then we’re going to struggle a little bit. It’s on us and we’ll take care of it.”

    Seattle’s success on the ground regularly put them in 3rd-and-short, which made it difficult for the Chargers to get off the field. The Seahawks were 4-of-6 (67 percent) on third down in the first half.

    “It adds up,” linebacker Jyles Tucker said. “It’s tough to get off the field when they gain five yards on first down. It’s simple to say, but we’ve got to do a better job.”

    Turner commended Seahawks Head Coach Mike Holmgren for his play calling, citing Seattle’s ability to create favorable match ups in the running game through formations.

    “They spread us out real good,” Turner said. “When you’re spread out, you’re in more one-on-one situations so our ability to tackle one-on-one in space and get a lot of guys to the ball, those are the key issues when you talk about tackling.”

    Allowing large rushing totals isn’t something the Chargers are used to. They’ve finished in the NFL’s top 10 in rushing yards allowed per game in seven out of the last 11 regular seasons.

    “We’re not used to that happening around here,” safety Clinton Hart said. “It’s one thing to talk about fixing it and it’s another to go get it fixed. It’s frustrating, but we’re going to make it right. There’s too much pride here to not.”



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  2. BFISA

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    Well, at least they acknowledge that they tackled like ****.
     
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  3. Johnny Lightning

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  4. TheLash

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    Us Charger fans are pretty frustrated with it too.:yes:
     
  5. maestro876

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    Thankfully, tackling is something that is easily fixed.

    If they tackle better, and just work with the scheme, they will play good defense.
     
  6. Enormo

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    It's starting to look like it's easier said than done.

    The problem is that the tackling has been terrible since game one of the preseason. That's three games of not beeing able to performing the most elemental of football tasks. It is a pattern and it worries me. Hopefully this magic "switch" that folks have been talking about will be flipped come game one the regular season. I for one, don't believe in magic so I hope they get this thing fixed before opening day.
     
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    :lol: :yes: :icon_evil:
     
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  9. Fouts

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    Fire Ted Cotrell!!!!! :icon_twisted: J/K :lol:
     
  10. TheBeast

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    :icon_eek::lol: Thought you developed poof's mentality :lol: Glad they regognize it cough*wilhelm and most of the middle linbackers*cough. I like how hart and jammer are tackling though they look like they want a ring really badly.
     
  11. Enormo

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    Maybe your sign should read, "Don't talk about football. Be Happy."

    Really now, every time time I've brought this up I have people either calling me a whiner, chicken little, a pannicky school girl etc. and I really don't get it. The bad tackling isn't a one quarter thing, it's not a one player thing. Tackling has been terrible throught the preseason. Every game, every quarter and most every unit. And our inside linebacking core is definately suspect this year.

    So should I not post about it? Should I only post good things about the team? Is it too much to expect that someone engage me in an actual discussion about this issue?

    I just don't get it.
     
  12. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    Well, there's your problem right there.
     
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  13. Buck Melanoma

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    Maybe Fat Teddy just doesn't want to show their regular season tackling form to opponents. :icon_rofl:
     
  14. exodus

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    They're still going for glory shots. They want to be on the highlight reel. Well, they're getting there...
     
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    If you are right, and the Chargers simply forgot how to tackle over the course of the offseason, I will give you your props.
     
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  16. Zeus

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    Its preseason most starters use it to have fun, shake off the rust, and try some new things. Your not going to have starters going full speed to stop a rookie who has nothing to lose in a game where even stats mean nothing.

    There is an interesting thing about preseason. Teams that look bad often do good in regular season. Teams that look good in preseason often do bad. The Raiders won more preseason games in 2006 than regular season games.

    Miami looked like it could actually put up a fight in 2007, and wasn't much more than a floor mat.
     
  17. Osmekaman

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    Are you talking about Weddle's attempted "hit" on the long TD vs Seattle?
    Jees, he must think he's a 250lb 'backer if he expected to knock that dude on his ***!!

    Wrap that baby up, man.
     
  18. AnteaterCharger

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    he probably got smacked around plenty when reviewing this game in the film room
     
  19. Gridreaper

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    ...I believe Indy was 0-5 in the preseason the year they won the Super Bowl or maybe it was the year they started 13-0. Either way, you're right. The stronger teams are pretty much set, so they tend to experiment more, take longer looks at more players, etc. Consequently, their preseason won/loss mark suffers. Still, not tackling properly, taking poor angles, not doing the fundamental things, doesn't look very good.
     
  20. Retired Catholic

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    That is exactly right. The starters are not trying to make the team, they are trying to be ready for the opening play of the season. Nobody likes these exhibition games. A missed tackle right now or a refusal for a vet to sell out his body like an ambitious rookie is meaningless. I would bet that, if the vets got paid bonus money for in your face play in these rather meaningless games, that the defense would already be tackling better. Winning season games means something and so does money.
     
  21. BFISA

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    Passing out Red Bombs always helps :rolleyes2: :icon_rofl:
     
  22. Enormo

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    Once again a valuable post brimming with substance and insight. :icon_toast:
     

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