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Chargers must improve ball security in 2012

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Blue Bolt, May 16, 2012.

  1. Blue Bolt

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    Chargers offense has key area to improve
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    The Chargers offense isn't broken.

    That much, after last season, is clear.

    Fifth in the NFL in points scored. Sixth in yards per game. Third in first downs and average time of possession. No offense scored more points to begin the second half, and as a franchise, they've never been better on third down since the stat began being tracked in 1991.

    But internally, one must-fix area has been identified.

    In 2011, the Chargers committed eight turnovers in their eight wins. In eight losses, they gave the ball away 20 times, a 250 percent difference.

    “That was obviously the thing that stood out last year,” quarterback Philip Rivers said. “It's one thing if we couldn't get a first down or convert third downs or couldn't run the ball or couldn't have any big plays. We had all of those.

    “You can't assume the other things are going to happen. We have to continue to work hard to stay high in the league at converting third downs and all those other categories. But certainly, a continued emphasis on protecting the football — that's game to game. If we can do that, we have a much better chance at winning the game.”

    It's no earth-shattering revelation.

    Win the turnover battle. Improve the opportunity to win.

    Six of the NFL's seven best teams in turnover differential made the playoffs last season. The top three — 49ers (plus-28), Packers (plus-24) and Patriots (plus-17) — finished with 13 or more regular-season wins.

    During their current playoff drought, the Chargers are at negative-13, ranking 25th in the NFL over the two-year span.

    “If anyone is trying to figure out our offense, there's one area where we need to show drastic improvement,” coach Norv Turner said. “It's not red-zone offense. We were 10th and started slow. It's not time of possession. We've got to protect the ball better.”

    They've done it before.

    In 2009, the team committed 17 turnovers, second fewest in the league. By no coincidence, it was the team's most recent playoff-bound campaign.

    The Chargers expect to improve their turnover efficiency in 2012. And really, they should.

    Rivers threw 20 interceptions in 2011; he averaged 11.4 in his first five years as a starter. Running back Ryan Mathews, entering his third season, has continued to make strides in ball security.

    After free agency and the draft, the number of offensive pieces should also run deeper, from offensive line, wide receiver to tight end.

    "There's certainly some poor decisions and some poor throws," Rivers said. "Then there's others where you go, 'Well, what are you going to do?' Some of those are going to happen. We are going to turn the ball over next year, but obviously, you want it to be as minimal as possible.

    "In years where we've had a small amount of turnovers, we've had great seasons."
     
  2. Buck Melanoma

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    I loved Tolbert as a Charger but he put the ball on the ground too.

    Can never stress ball security enough.
     
  3. Ikeman83

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    You can win with a low scoring offense. You can win with a defense that gives up a ton of yards. You cannot win with a team that turns the ball over.

    Nothing new, convert your 3rd downs, prevent your opponent from doing the same, and force lots of turnovers without having many of your own = lots of wins.
     
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  4. Blue Bolt

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    Which would imply, that you have offensive players that don't turn the ball over, and defensive players that create turnovers.

    Last year, we had few players of either description. That has to change, if we plan on retaking the division and winning in the playoffs.
     
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    Wow, and they just figured this out?
     
  6. FCBolt

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    Ball security just compounded issues created by a defense unable to get off the field.
    Stout defense: ball security important but not a game changer.
    Defense that lets opposing teams burn up the clock: ball security is crucial.
     
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    You could win with a team that gave up the ball like the Chargers did last year, so long as the defense managed their end.

    If the Chargers had held on to the ball with their crap 3rd down D, they'd have made the playoffs, but you're not going far with a D like that.
     
  8. Blue Bolt

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    Oh, come on!!!........ You know damn well that Manusky was just a scapegoat. ;)
     
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    The worst defenses in the league last season were among the teams with the most wins.
     
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    Did the team that won it all suck at defense?
     
  11. FCBolt

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    Just like TC ;)
     
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    Did the team that allowed the 6th most yards suck at defense? That doesn't sound stout or stingy to me... also, they allowed the 8th most PPG. They were however 8th best in the league in turnover differential...
     
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    Not the first time the Giants D was mediocre to bad in the regular season and kicked *** in the playoffs.
    Those regular season stats you mentioned resulted in a 9-7 record. Yet when the defense got it together, the team went on a tear.
     
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    The Giants allowed 376.4 yds/game in the regular season and 25 PPG. They forced 20 picks and 11 fumbles, while giving away 16 picks and 8 fumbles (2 turnovers for them / game, 1.5 against them/game).

    In the postseason, they allowed 2, 20, 17, and 17 points, for 14 PPG, they did however allow 247, 388, 328, and 349 yards for 328 yds/game. They forced 2 interceptions and 5 fumbles, and gave away 1 interception and 0 fumbles.

    Other than in the Atlanta game, the factor of greatest consequence was their 7 to 1 turnover margin, which was significantly higher than the 3 to 2 ratio they had during the regular season.

    Turnovers, bud, it's all about turnovers.
     
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    "Chargers must improve ball security in 2012." File that in the same category as "Chargers must score more points than their opponents in 2012."
     
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    YPG isn't a great statistic. PPG a bit better, no?
    Manage the TO ratio all you like, if your D stinks, you'll pay in the end.
    Likewise, if your D is #1 but you have, say, Ryan Leaf as your QB, you won't do well.
    It's clear that both TO ratio and ability of D to stop opposing O are very important.
    Thus, statements like "It's all about turnovers" are silly. It's clearly a combination of both.

    To my point: The Giants were crap until they managed their defense. Sample size of 1 ;)
     
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    I suppose you don't think there's a causation between a 7:1 turnover ratio and a low PPG?
     
  18. Buck Melanoma

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    Of course ball security is important.

    In other news, water is still wet in the liquid state.
     
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  19. Blue Bolt

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    So......... getting rid of Tolbert was a good thing then? ;)
     
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    Spanos should purchase better jockstraps if he wants to improve ball security.
     
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  21. Buck Melanoma

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    Using that logic, let's dump Mathews as well.
     
  22. Blue Bolt

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    Ah, so you do see the logic in it? ;)
     
  23. Buck Melanoma

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    Of course I do. I may be a smart-***, but I'm a reasonably logical smart-***. :D
     
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    Isn't the defense a part of that turnover ratio?
    Really the article is saying that the offense has to control their TOs.
    That's true (of course!) but it's not slam dunk #1 most important factor. A defense that kicks arse by getting off the field via TOs or 3rd down stoppage outweighs and counteracts TOs by the offense.
     
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    The more times I read this headline, the more I become
    convinced that (in addition to my team)...on a personal level, yes,
    I too ought probably to improve my own ball security in 2012
     
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  26. Buck Melanoma

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    Does this mean commando isn't the MO for 2012? :laugh:
     
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    Only if you've nothing to hide.
     
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    Freeballin, man. It's all about freeballin
     

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