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Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Chargers-Superhero, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. Chargers-Superhero

    Chargers-Superhero Just win the Damn SB !!!

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    This is it, we our tied with Denver at 6-3 after winning 4 straight, and the Donkeys losing 3 straight. Denver should be 5-4 but got that lucky tip pass in week one against the Bengals.

    Either way, a win by us and we have a lead in the division, and one step closer to another AFC West title. LET'S DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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    STICKY PLEASE!!!


    :abq2::abq2::abq1:
     
  3. Buck Melanoma

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    Nags2rags. :yes:
     
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  4. LFEpooh124

    LFEpooh124 BoltTalker

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    Haha, I love it!

    Any updates on injuries?

    I was too consumed watching the game that I failed to focus on our O-Line? How did Brandon Dymbrowski (I still want to call him DUMBrowski, but he's a Charger player and I should support him) do in filling in for Clary??? How bad is Clary's injury?
     
  5. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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  6. vegasboy

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    One good thing is that the 7 day weather forecast for Denver is for partly sunny skies and temperatures in the low 40's at game time.

    Great football weather!

    GO CHARGERS!:bolt:
     
  7. !~BOLT~!

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    Orton is going to play, at least early reports out of denver say so.

    Prior to the season I would have said "who gives a shyt?" Not so much after his pea shooter ate us up. Although I expect him to regret the decision with a bad wheel or not.

    Release the hounds this go around Rivera!
     
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  8. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Man, feels like a playoff game. Can't wait.
     
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  9. Chargers-Superhero

    Chargers-Superhero Just win the Damn SB !!!

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    This game is going to be awesome! This is our chance to get some pay back! They beat us in our house, time to return the favor; kick the little bastards when they are down!

    The melt down within the Donkey universe will be awesome to witness...carnage...how beautiful!:icon_twisted:
     
  12. PB Bolt

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    Caesars and The Mirage aren't touching this one yet. Vegas is scratching their heads over Orton. Otherwise, right now the Chargers are at least 2.5 point favorites on the road.

    Interesting.
     
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  13. wrbanwal

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    With Broncos slowing down, Chargers charge back in AFC West


    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-11-16-chargers-comeback_N.htm?utm_source=bleacherreport.com


    SAN DIEGO — What a difference a month makes.

    When the San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos were last on the field together a month agoat Qualcomm Stadium, it appeared the AFC West race was all but settled.

    The Broncos defeated the Chargers 34-23 on Monday Night Football to take a 3½-game lead in the division race. Denver left that game undefeated at 6-0, and the Chargers had fallen to 2-3.

    But never say never with San Diego, which now owns the same 6-3 mark as Denver atop the AFC West.

    "It's like déjà vu, isn't it?" Chargers tight end Antonio Gates says, referring to the showdown in Denver on Sunday. "It's like every time we play Denver, it means more than one game. We'll be fired up."

    The reversal of fortunes for these teams smacks of the turn of events late last season, when the Broncos collapsed down the stretch and became the first team since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger to blow a three-game division lead with three games to play, allowing San Diego to claim the division crown.

    That meltdown seemed so unlikely to be repeated. Denver, with a rebuilt defense and new coach Josh McDaniels, started 6-0.

    Yet here we are again. A Broncos collapse has coincided with a Chargers rally. "It's resiliency," Chargers cornerback Antonio Cromartie says.

    The Chargers seemingly thrive on beating such long odds. They entered December last season left for dead at 4-8. In 2007, during Norv Turner's first season as coach, they started 1-3 before winning the division and advancing to the AFC title game.

    Now this.

    "We've been in this situation before, so it's not anything new to us," linebacker Shawne Merriman says. "You hate to start off the season the way we start off sometimes, but when your back's against the wall, we've shown we can go out and perform."

    Turner praises the character and talent he's working with, but maintains that the early season struggles in each of his campaigns were unique in each case.

    Two years ago, he actually projected a slow start as the team was adjusting to a new staff and system. Last season, they started 0-2, losing on the final play against the Carolina Panthers in the opener and the following week falling victim to referee Ed Hochuli's erroneous ruling that an apparent fumble by Denver quarterback Jay Cutler in the final minute was an incompletion.

    This time, Turner points to injuries as the key factor. Running back LaDainian Tomlinson, nose tackle Jamal Williams and center Nick Hardwick were among five players injured in the season-opening victory at the Oakland Raiders. Williams, anchor of the 3-4 front, was lost for the season with a torn triceps. Hardwick hasn't returned from an ankle injury.

    Tomlinson missed two games with a sprained ankle, and Turner saw his performance in Sunday's 31-23 victory against the Philadelphia Eagles (24 rushes for 96 yards and two TDs) as a sign that he's healthy again.

    "We were beat up and banged up," Turner says. "We played that first month with guys on the offensive and defensive lines who were just feeling their way and learning how to play in this league."

    Merriman's gradual return to form, after missing virtually all of last season with torn knee ligaments, also has been a boost for the defense.

    Says Turner: "Merriman is a lot healthier than he was in September. He and (linebacker) Shaun Phillips, the month they've had, they've been on a tear."

    San Diego's defense was on the field for 71 snaps and allowed 462 yards against the Eagles, but three times forced them to settle for short field goals when backed up in the red zone. A week earlier, the unit kept the New York Giants from scoring a game-clinching touchdown late in the fourth quarter, forcing a field goal. That allowed quarterback Philip Rivers to lead a game-winning 80-yard drive in the final minutes that was capped with an 18-yard scoring pass to Vincent Jackson.

    "Right now, we're on the cusp of being a good defense," inside linebacker Kevin Burnett says. "We can talk about being great later. If we can be consistent and then put together a string of victories — six, seven, eight in a row — then you can say we're a good defense."

    The Chargers know all about winning streaks.

    They won five in a row last season before an AFC divisional playoff loss at the Pittsburgh Steelers. Two seasons ago, they took an eight-game streak into the AFC title game. In 2006, they closed the regular season with a 10-game winning streak before a playoff-opening loss that cost Marty Schottenheimer his job as Turner's predecessor.

    "We know how to rally," cornerback Quentin Jammer says. "When we put our minds to it, we know how to get it done as a team."

    They'll soon get another chance to prove that to the Broncos.
     
  14. Sydalish

    Sydalish Addicted to Sports

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    This game is a biggie - I'm so anxious for Sunday just like I was last year before our final match-up. We can beat them, of that I have zero doubt. Nothing is guaranteed but I cannot imagine that these guys aren't fired up for this game and getting down to business.

    Too bad Cutlet isn't around to meltdown tho... I find it hard to "hate" Orton or Simms and the sheer joy of beating up that smug faced little ***** made playing the Donkey's sooooo much fun.
     
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    Yeah .... kinda sad.

    I guess we'll have to be pacified with PR & VJ beating Champ like a drum. :abq2: :abq1: :abq2:
     
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    I actually think McDaniels F'ed up big time last week. I think Orton probably could have played in the 2nd half, but McDaniels decided it was better to rest Orton for the Bolts, not thinking his team would lose to the lowly Redskins. Oops.
     
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    I hate Cutler! But even without Cutless, I still hate the Donkeys...not sure why...maybe it was the whole Elway thing....I really hated Elway...Bottom line, this is an easy team for me to hate! (hate in a good way:yes:)
     
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  18. Lightning's Girl

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    Yeah, they are harder to hate this time around. But---YA GOTTA START SOMETIME!!!!!:icon_rofl:
     
  19. Cheapseats

    Cheapseats Loud, proud Charger fan

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    They are an AFC West division rival..that's all the reason I need!
     
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    Chargers-Superhero Just win the Damn SB !!!

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    Bummer for Orton. Hope he heals.

    Maybe Simms will get a kidney dislodged this time around.

    Last time he started, he lost his spleen while in TB....:icon_eek:

    BTW, Rivers would (did) play through to the AFC Divisional game and possibly the SB with torn tendons.....:abq2:
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    It isn't a problem, as long as it ain't your foot.
     
  26. wrbanwal

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    Chargers Team Report

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aubf2UA6DFY254PmFnPd3bX.uLYF?slug=teamreports-2009-nfl-sdg&prov=sportsxchange&type=team_report

    Say, didn’t you used to be the high-flying Denver Broncos?

    That’s the Chargers’ question as they head to Denver to face their longtime AFC West foe Sunday.



    It wasn’t that long ago—Oct. 19—that the Broncos left San Diego after taking the Chargers to the woodshed and building a 3 1/2-game lead.

    The Broncos haven’t won a game since and the Chargers are riding a four-game winning streak to knot these two talented teams at 6-3 and atop the AFC West.

    “I don’t think ‘tank’ is the word,” Philip Rivers(notes) said, when asked if this Broncos team is tanking like last year’s, which squandered away the division lead to San Diego in the last four weeks.

    “Teams go through ups and downs; we went through a downer earlier in the year and now we’re winning. And it seems Denver flipped the role.

    “But at this point in the season we’re getting into the thick of it and the team playing the best in November and December gets to play in January. That is what we both know and that is why both teams need this win.”

    Few people outside the Chargers’ locker room thought the Chargers could make up that much ground this fast. But under Norv Turner this has become a tradition, with the Chargers starting slowly then finding a way to play their best football as the calendar keeps flipping.

    What changed the Chargers was their focus. Once they were looking at such a large deficit and up at the Broncos, they decided to start checking mirrors instead of other teams.

    “After that (loss to Denver) our thoughts were we had to take care of own situation,” Turner said. “In that game we did a lot of things better than in previous games and we were close to getting on a roll. But we had to just go out and play and not get caught up in the negative things of not winning the game and we did that.”

    That said, the Chargers are facing a miffed Broncos bunch that has the sour taste of a three-game losing streak in their mouths. And with the latest loss coming to the woeful Redskins, the Chargers know they aren’t going to sneak up on the Broncos.

    “They are a very good football team; we saw that in the first meeting,” Turner said. “They play awfully well at home and we will have to play our best.”

    If the Chargers can get past this one in a winning fashion, it’ll be the best team they’ll see in some time. After wrestling with the Giants and Eagles leading up to Sunday, they get a somewhat soft stretch with the visiting Chiefs and a game at Cleveland up next.

    A four-game winning streak could easily transform into a seven-game run beginning with a win Sunday, which is no slam dunk.

    But there is no argument the Chargers feel much better seeing the Broncos this time around with a swagger that was absent during a 2-3 start.

    “I think with us it’s just the confidence level and how we are playing right now as a whole,” Shawne Merriman(notes) said. “It’s not just on offense, but our defense and our special teams. I think everything as a whole has made a complete turnaround from four weeks ago.”

    Series History: 100th regular-season meeting. Broncos lead series 54-44-1. The Broncos used to dominate the Chargers at home, winning 10 of 11 games in Denver during one stretch. But since Philip Rivers became the Chargers’ starting quarterback in 2006, the visiting Chargers have won two of three games. And the lone loss came last season in the controversial Ed Hochuli game in which the referee called an incomplete pass instead of a fumble with the Broncos driving for the game-winning score.

    NOTES, QUOTES

    —If it seems the AFC West winner is usually the Broncos or Chargers, that has been the case of late. The two teams have won four of the last five division crowns.

    QB Philip Rivers said he always get a kick out of going to the Mile High City.

    “I do enjoy going there and playing,” he said. “It’s a great atmosphere; it’s a great place to play. Obviously the games are always very meaningful. Denver and us have been battling for the division just about year. It’s always fun to go back there and play and we want to play at a high level.”

    • OLB Shawne Merriman said while the Chargers are riding high that the films show a Broncos team looking for its legs again.

    “I think they are a different team than what they were let’s say four weeks ago,” he said. “Four weeks ago they were undefeated and they just looked like one of the unbeatable teams in the league. But every team can get beat and they were just playing extremely well at that time.”

    • Chargers coach Norv Turner is familiar with the defensive coordinator he will match wits with Sunday. Mike Nolan of Denver was the head coach of the Niners when Turner was the offensive coordinator in 2006.

    • Denver defensive line coach Wayne Nunnely spent 12 seasons in that role with the Chargers before this season.

    • Turner takes a lot of heat but know this: If the Chargers beat the Broncos, he will be 26-16 in the regular season and own the highest winning percentage of any San Diego coach at .619.

    • RB LaDainian Tomlinson(notes), along with former QB Dan Fouts, got the most votes for the franchise’s 50th anniversary team.

    “It’s a great honor, especially when you think about all of the players that have come through here throughout the 50-year history,” Tomlinson said. “To be considered to be one of the greatest in the organizations history is a great honor and something you take pride in.”

    More than 400,000 votes were cast in the on-line balloting.

    • It’s not a big surprise that when the Chargers collect sacks and take care of the ball, they usually win. In four games this season in which they have more sacks and more forced turnovers combined, the Chargers are 4-0 and have outscored their opponents by 54 points.

    • When Tomlinson is running like he did Sunday—two touchdowns and 96 yards—it leaks to other areas of the offense.

    “When he’s playing that way, that’s when we’re at our best,” TE Antonio Gates(notes) said. “It’s clear to us, it’s clear to everyone. When we’re able to establish the running game, that’s when we’re at our best.”

    • Rivers is coming off a game in which he had a career-best 80 percent completion percentage and a season-high 131.8 rating.

    • Tila Tequila has filed a civil lawsuit against Merriman regarding their incident in his home. Merriman was cleared of, among other charges, assault and false imprisonment. “I really have nothing to say,” he said. “It’s a sad and unfortunate situation that by being a pro figure sometimes you have to deal with things and I am going to let it take its course.”

    By The Numbers: 1,000—Sunday’s game will mark the Chargers’ 1,000th since their inception. They are 498-486-15.

    Quote To Note: “Their last win was against us and our last loss was against them.”—QB Philip Rivers on the opposite directions the Chargers and Broncos have gone since Denver defeated the Chargers on Oct. 19.

    STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL

    The Chargers’ patience for Jyles Tucker’s(notes) ankle injury was running out, and a look at the calendar forced them to place the outside linebacker on injured reserve, losing him for the season.

    To take his roster space, the Chargers went to the other side of the ball in promoting Corey Clark(notes) from the practice squad. Clark is a good insurance policy as right tackle Jeromey Clary(notes) is nursing a sore ankle that forced him from Sunday’s game.

    All indications are Clary could play Sunday, but he also could have a setback when he returns to practice this week.

    Clark is a former seventh-round pick in his second season with the Chargers.

    Player Notes

    • LB James Holt(notes) has only been with the team since Nov. 3 but he is making an impact on special teams. So much, that he was awarded a game ball for his work on Sunday.

    • WR Buster Davis is no closer to seeing the field than he has been all year. The former first-round pick has been inactive for every game.

    • RB LaDainian Tomlinson trails Marcus Allen by 98 yards for 10th place on the NFL’s all-time rushing list.

    • RB Darren Sproles(notes) can hurt teams many different ways as a returner, running back and receiver. His 1,602 combined yards leads the league.

    • ILB Kevin Burnett(notes) continues to move better after missing three games with an ankle injury. He returned last week and led the team with 10 tackles.

    Game Plan: This game is going to be about passing attack—the Chargers going all-out after the Broncos’ quarterback and Philip Rivers attacking a secondary with smaller receivers being matched against his lanky wide outs.

    Matchups To Watch: Chargers outside pass rush vs. Broncos QB Kyle Orton(notes) or Chris Simms(notes). The Chargers were content last week to let Philly’s Donovan McNabb(notes) sit back and pick apart the secondary to the tune of 450 passing yards. The Chargers thought by the time the outside guys got there, the mobile McNabb would step away from harm’s way. That isn’t the case this week as that outside pass rush could feast on a gimpy Orton (ankle) or Simms and his happy feet. Both Shawne Merriman and Shaun Phillips(notes) didn’t practice Wednesday with leg issues. But both will be going Sunday and it figures they will tee off on the Denver quarterback of the day. Both were held without sacks last week after dominating the previous two weeks. Look for them to cut it loose, which might force Orton/Simms into hot routes and not the down field stuff where Brandon Marshall(notes) can shine.

    Chargers WRs Vincent Jackson(notes) and Malcom Floyd(notes) vs. Broncos secondary. Jackson and Floyd are making their marks with their downfield, acrobatic catches over smaller defensive backs. This week they could exploit a Denver secondary which features cornerbacks Andre Goodman (5-foot-10) and Champ Bailey(notes) (6-0) and safeties Brian Dawkins(notes) (6-0) and Renaldo Hill(notes) (5-10). Throw in TE Antonio Gates (6-4) and the Chargers’ receivers could basically be posing up on the smaller defensive backs, giving Rivers an inviting target. The Broncos do rank No. 5 against the pass, but could have their hands full tracking these giants.

    Chargers C Scott Mruczkowski(notes) and RT Jeromey Clary vs. Broncos OLB Elvis Dumervil(notes). Mruczkowski, a backup, has at least one more start in him as Pro Bowler Nick Hardwick(notes) continues to mend. Clary is probably going to be ready after twisting his ankle Sunday, but he won’t be at 100 percent. The Chargers have to figure out a way to slow Dumervil, who leads the league with 11.5 sacks. In the previous matchup in San Diego, Dumervil collected two sacks and has three against the Chargers in his career.

    Injury Impact: OLB Shawne Merriman (foot) didn’t work but will play Sunday.

    • OLB Shaun Phillips (ankle) didn’t work but could practice Thursday; he will go Sunday.

    • C Nick Hardwick (ankle) didn’t work and it’s unlikely he will play Sunday.

    • RT Jeromey Clary (ankle) didn’t work but he appears he goes Sunday.

    • TE Antonio Gates (foot) didn’t practice but will play Sunday; this has been a weekly routine.

    • DL Travis Johnson(notes) (groin) didn’t practice but will be part of the rotation Sunday.

    • DT Ogemdi Nwagbuo(notes) (ankle) didn’t practice but will fine for his role on Sunday.
     
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    I predict LT moves to #10 all time


    this week.


    mark it down!!!
     
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    You know it! Good call!!!
     
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    Clary is gonna need help with Dumervil. I look for Manu, LT, or Tolbert to be doing a lot of chipping on him Sunday.
     

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