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Chispa Las Vegas - Preseason Props

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Chispa, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

    Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan Well-Known Member

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  2. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man New Member

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    Props on getting Chispa LasVegas I (the early years) :lol: off the ground.

    leisure is dikkin' the dog and if he shows, well, you two hash it out but until then, he has relegated his status as master gambler guru or however he fancies his sillyass. :icon_toast:
     
  3. BFISA

    BFISA Well-Known Member

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    word
     
  4. Shamrock

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    Chippie owes me some rights fees .....
     
  5. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Props for getting this going Chispa.

    When/IF L comes back only one thing to say. "You snooze, you lose."
     
  6. knowsthebolt

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    Gotta like Stephen Jackson at 14-1 as well. Better value for your money.
     
  7. BFISA

    BFISA Well-Known Member

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    Not if he doesn't win :no:

    IMHO, alotta things've gotta happen before HE wins the rushing title :yes:
     
  8. knowsthebolt

    knowsthebolt BoltTalker

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    Not as much as it may appear. Young workhorse back, on a talented, balanced offense in a bad division/conference. The threat of the pass, doesn't allow opposing defenses' to stack the box, and the guy will see 25-30 carries a game. Last year he had 346 carries for 1528 yards, so it puts him in the ballpark, and at 14-1 odds, I would certainly put my money on a side bet he wins a rushing title.:yes:
     
  9. ghost_

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    OAKLAND 150 to 1
    to win it all
    :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl:
    closer to 1,000,000 to 1
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  10. in_a_days

    in_a_days dgaf

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    I don't think I'd bet most those props with somebody elses $$$

    SD less than even money to win the division, and I almost never bet to win less than what I'm putting up.

    And all the season results props are total BS. The pats are 2.6:1 to win the AFC and 4:1 to win the whole thing. With that kind of favorite the next closest thing has got to be 8:1 or bigger, but the bolts are 4.25:1 for the AFC, and 5.5:1 to win the SB. IMO these payouts are a total burn. With the Pats so heavily favored these other teams should be getting waaaaaaaaay better odds. But they're not, so I must dub these props sucker bets. :yes:

    Anybody know the last time a player led the NFL in rushing yardage in consecutive seasons? No disrespect, but I would not bet on LT to repeat (might bet it at 5:1, but 2.75:1 is not worth the risk). I like Steven Jackson and Willie Parker at 14:1. Both guys play behind quality lines and have at least some decent talent surrounding them.

    Carson Palmer for most yardage at 8:1 sounds like a pretty good bet. He's got a great o-line and and great receivers. I feel like so much of handicapping is about public opinion moreso than how talented guys are, and the Bangles disapointed last season so I suspect the public is a little down on 'em.... not me. :no:

    And ya'll are the CFB pros so you tell me what looks good there... :icon_shrug:
     
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  11. Yngwie77

    Yngwie77 New Member

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    I think LT will repeat, but as was stated previously, I think the smart $$$ is on Steven Jackson. 14-1 is pretty sweet odds for a guy who had an awesome season last year and can definitely get better. Remeber, although they wont even be close to sharing the load, Turner could easily take a couple 100 yds from Lt's total. Be a smart move to keep LT fresh throughout the season, and for future years by utilizing Turner as much as we can. He's a luxury we can really take advantage of!
     
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  12. BFISA

    BFISA Well-Known Member

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    So Fresno St is lumped in with Field (All others)?? :icon_shrug: :icon_huh: :icon_eek:
     
  13. Shamrock

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    This thread needs a title upgrade ..... maybe ....

    Chispa Atlantic City .... nah ... too East Coastish ...

    ... a little classier ....

    Chispa Monte Carlo
     
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  14. sdbound

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    Wow, JB's record is amazing, 5 years in a row, one year break, then another three years in a row.
     
  15. Thunderstruck

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    Look at it this way; as incredible as he's been LT has won the rushing title once in 6 years. And as great as he was last year he only won it by 26 yards.

    I'd say Vegas has it about right... LT is the best bet, but far from a sure one. In '04 and '05 LT was hampered by nagging injuries... nothing serious but a groin here, a broken rib there, and suddenly he looked human. Even if he stays 100% healthy all year will the Chargers throw more in in '07 than they did in '06 with PR having another year of experience?

    Given the odds posted, the two guys I like are Frank Gore and Stephen Jackson.
     
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  16. in_a_days

    in_a_days dgaf

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    Well... there's no denying that LT is in that class of elite backs. But that action is still all you. LT to repeat pays +275, and that's just not sweet enough for a 17 week wait. I mean seriously, I would put the odds of LT leading the league in rushing at somewhere around 4:1, and I wont make the bet for any less of a payout.
     
  17. in_a_days

    in_a_days dgaf

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    Regular Season Win Totals O/U

    CARDINALS REGULAR SEASON WINS o7-150
    CARDINALS REGULAR SEASON WINS u7+120

    ATLANTA FALCONS SEASON WINS o7½-140
    ATLANTA FALCONS SEASON WINS u7½+110

    BALTIMORE RAVENS SEASON WINS o9-135
    BALTIMORE RAVENS SEASON WINS u9+105

    BUFFALO BILLS SEASON WINS o6EV
    BUFFALO BILLS SEASON WINS u6-130

    CAROLINA PANTHERS SEASON WINS o9EV
    CAROLINA PANTHERS SEASON WINS u9-130

    CHICAGO BEARS SEASON WINS o10EV
    CHICAGO BEARS SEASON WINS u10-130

    CINCINNATI BENGALS SEASON WINS o9-130
    CINCINNATI BENGALS SEASON WINS u9EV

    CLEVELAND BROWNS SEASON WINS o6EV
    CLEVELAND BROWNS SEASON WINS u6-130

    DALLAS COWBOYS SEASON WINS
    DALLAS COWBOYS SEASON WINS

    DENVER BRONCOS SEASON WINS o9½-130
    DENVER BRONCOS SEASON WINS u9½EV

    DETROIT LIONS SEASON WINS o6-130
    DETROIT LIONS SEASON WINS u6EV

    GREEN BAY PACKERS SEASON WINS o7½+115
    GREEN BAY PACKERS SEASON WINS u7½-145

    HOUSTON TEXANS SEASON WINS o6½EV
    HOUSTON TEXANS SEASON WINS u6½-130

    INDIANAPOLIS COLTS SEASON WINS o10½-115
    INDIANAPOLIS COLTS SEASON WINS u10½-115

    JACKSONVILLE JAGS SEASON WINS o9+105
    JACKSONVILLE JAGS SEASON WINS u9-135

    KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SEASON WINS
    KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SEASON WINS

    MIAMI DOLPHINS SEASON WINS o8+140
    MIAMI DOLPHINS SEASON WINS u8-180

    MINNESOTA VIKINGS SEASON WINS o6½-180
    MINNESOTA VIKINGS SEASON WINS u6½+140

    NEW ENGLAND PATS SEASON WINS o11½-115
    NEW ENGLAND PATS SEASON WINS u11½-115

    NEW ORLEANS SAINTS SEASON WINS o9-115
    NEW ORLEANS SAINTS SEASON WINS u9-115

    NEW YORK GIANTS SEASON WINS o8-115
    NEW YORK GIANTS SEASON WINS u8-115

    NEW YORK JETS SEASON WINS o8+120
    NEW YORK JETS SEASON WINS u8-150

    OAKLAND RAIDERS SEASON WINS o5EV
    OAKLAND RAIDERS SEASON WINS u5-130

    PHILLY EAGLES SEASON WINS o9-130
    PHILLY EAGLES SEASON WINS u9EV

    PITT STEELERS SEASON WINS o9+125
    PITT STEELERS SEASON WINS u9-155

    SAN DIEGO CHARGERS SEASON WINS o10½-135
    SAN DIEGO CHARGERS SEASON WINS u10½+105

    49ERS SEASON WINS o8EV
    49ERS SEASON WINS u8-130

    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS SEASON WINS o9EV
    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS SEASON WINS u9-130

    ST LOUIS RAMS SEASON WINS o7½-115
    ST LOUIS RAMS SEASON WINS u7½-115

    BUCCANEERS SEASON WINS o7-130
    BUCCANEERS SEASON WINS u7EV

    TENNESSEE TITANS SEASON WINS o7+125
    TENNESSEE TITANS SEASON WINS u7-155

    REDSKINS SEASON WINS o7½+110
    REDSKINS SEASON WINS u7½-140
     
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  18. in_a_days

    in_a_days dgaf

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    I dunno why it doesn't have totals listed for them. But pretty much every place I found season win totals there were a couple teams that were blank. I agree about the Falcons under, but I doubt anybody is still taking action on that here in Vegas.

    And hanastly, time isn't as much a factor as payout. I really don't like placing a bet where the payout is less than my perceived odds of winning. That's why I almost never play parlays... your chances of winning a 2 teamer are about one out of four, but it's only going to pay you +260. You'll hit a three teamer about one out of eight times and get payed only +600. Here in Vegas, at least, the books make a killing on parlay players. I look at the LT prop the same way. Nobody is going to convince me that LT has better than a one in four chance of leading the league in rushing again. So unless I see that kind of payout I say no action.

    I need to look around here in town, 'cause it's my understanding that a lot of the props you find on the 'net are only through the offshore gambling companies. Especially considering the state of online gambing in the US, I feel a lot more comfortable going to a sports book than betting online (despite the juice). So I've got to find out who taking those props in LV and see how their numbers compare. :yes:
     
  19. TheLash

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    10:00:00 AM SAN DIEGO 11 to 2
    Max bet to win $10,000
    09/10/2007

    hmmm I got 4.5/1 on that bet back in June on the Ceasars line.:unsure:
     
  20. MtlBoltsFan

    MtlBoltsFan Jesse Ventura/Howard Stern 2016

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