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Cincy win = Playoff bye

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by ChargerRay, Dec 17, 2006.

  1. ChargerRay

    ChargerRay #FireMcCoy #FireReich #FirePagano Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    It's going to be a great offensive game. Whoever punts once, will lose! Let's go Cincy! :ABQ2:
     
  2. auctoritas

    auctoritas BoltTalker

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    Let's hope that the Colt's continue to struggle and the Bengals continue to roll for one more week.
     
  3. BoltsFanUK

    BoltsFanUK Well-Known Member

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    Cincy is on a roll so the Bengals need to win
     
  4. When Lightning Strikes

    When Lightning Strikes Well-Known Member

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    there is no way indy will win this game.
    period....
     
  5. bigcarson50

    bigcarson50 Well-Known Member

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    Here's the deal. We get a first round bye by winning one of our two remaining games period. The only realistic way we get the number 1 seed in winning one of two remaining games is if the Colts win out.

    Seeing as I don't see us losing two, we don't need the Colts to lose tonight.

    On top of that, I am mroe afraid of the Bengals in the playoffs than the Colts, so I wouldn't mind the Bengals losing in that respect either.
     
  6. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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    if the Colts and/or Balt wins out, and we lose one, then we won't be the #1 seed. yes???
     
  7. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    A dude at Chargers.com broke it down pretty good. Here it is:


     
  8. Boltdiehard

    Boltdiehard Well-Known Member

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    So go Colts? :icon_shrug: :no: :tdown:

    I hope they both beat the chiat out of each other. :ABQ2:
     
  9. PhillyChargerFan

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    Just win out!!!!! Then we don't have to worry about any "scenarios" :tup:
     
  10. boltssbbound

    boltssbbound Well-Known Member

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    Essentially, if the Ravens, Colts and Chargers finish with the same record, the Bolts get the #1 seed. If the Ravens and the
    Chargers finish with the same record, the Ravens get the #1 seed. If the Colts and Chargers finish with the same record, the Chargers get the #1 seed.

    So to get the #1 seed we need to either:

    Finish the season with a better record than the Colts and Ravens

    or

    Finish the season with the same record as the Colts and the Ravens

    or

    Finish the season with a better record than the Ravens and the same record as the Colts

    Personally, I prefer option 1. :yes:

    It will actually help us more if the Colts win tonight. Sure, if they lose, we will be guaranteed a first round bye, but that's going to happen anyway. The Colts winning out would enable us to lose at Seattle and still get Home field advantage, even if the Ravens win out.
     
  11. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Here are scenarios from JoelBolt:

     
  12. boltssbbound

    boltssbbound Well-Known Member

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    I'll make it real simple. Assuming we don't lose both our remaining games, a first round bye is guaranteed, and the only way the Bolts won't get home field advantage is if the Ravens win out and the Colts don't.

    So go Colts.
     
  13. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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    DAMN!!

    I think I got it!!!

    :ABQ2: :ABQ2: :ABQ2:
     
  14. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Huzzah! Let's go Cincy
     
  15. Boltdiehard

    Boltdiehard Well-Known Member

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    No no no.......Go Colts!!
     
  16. boltssbbound

    boltssbbound Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
  17. Kinch

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    Hahaha, that was the funniest thing I've read in a long time.
     
  18. Boltdiehard

    Boltdiehard Well-Known Member

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    Hey thanks for doing the thinking for me as my brain is fuggin cereal today. :icon_blur:
     
  19. ntman68

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    I thought if Indy lost tonight, we clinched regardless of what else happens? :icon_shrug:
     
  20. tboltzcali

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    If Indy loses tonite, we will clinch 1 of 2 first round byes.

    Next week..
    If San Diego wins and Baltimore loses, we clinch home field adv.

    Its that simple cuz thats whats going to happen.

    The scary thing is, the team with home field advantage hasnt done well in the playoffs. So I kinda have mixed emotions about having home field. We can beat anyone anywhere anytime. Bring em on...here or there!!!!!
     
  21. boltssbbound

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    We clinch a first round bye, but not necessarily home field advantage. It seems bizarre, but if the Colts win, it actually improves our chances of getting home field, those it prevents us from clinching a first round bye for another week.
     
  22. ntman68

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    Ugh... math is hard. [​IMG]

    Heck with it. Let's just beat the pants off of Seattle and Arizona and be done.
     
  23. foober

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    Yep, Get the bye and home field thats what we want now. Two more wins will achieve that for the chargers.
     
  24. Nomadic Bolt Fan

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    Yep, lets just win out and not worry about the rest.

    :ABQ2: :helm1: :ABQ1:
     
  25. auctoritas

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    well, it looks like it's all over except for the crying in Indy.
     
  26. AnteaterCharger

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    guess it means we just have to beat the crap out of the seahawks and cardinals
     
  27. SDRaiderH8er

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    To tell you the truth, I dont even want Cincy in it. They scare me.

    But now it looks as if Indy is going to win it, we need to take care of our own business.
     
  28. tboltzcali

    tboltzcali Well-Known Member

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    Someone explain to me why they made this part so difficult....



    AFC West
    San Diego has clinched AFC West Division.

    San Diego can clinch home-field advantage with:

    A win and a Baltimore loss or tie OR
    A tie and a Baltimore loss and an Indianapolis loss or tie

    San Diego can clinch a first-round bye with:

    A win OR
    A tie and an Indianapolis loss or tie OR
    A tie and a Baltimore loss OR
    An Indianapolis loss
     
  29. Thunderstruck

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    It's kinda wierd, but I think I can explain the logic behind the three-way tiebreaker. The rule is meant to choose the best ONE of the three teams. The NFL rule says any tie-breaker elevates one, and only one, of the teams that are tied. So if three teams are tied, the tiebreaker chooses one of the three.

    So, let's take the scenario where the Colts, Ravens, and Chargers all finish at 13-3. Obviously, the Ravens beat the Chargers earlier in the season. But since there are three teams involved, and since the tiebreaker elevates only one team, it wouldn't be fair to the Colts to elevate the Ravens because of their win against us.

    That's why in a three-way tie, head-to-head is only a factor if all three teams have played each other. If all three teams haven't played each other then head-to-head is no longer a fair tiebreaker. The measuring stick has to be something that's fair to all three teams, so it goes to conference record, then common opponents, and so on...

    In the scenario of a three-way tiebreaker the Chargers have the advantage. Why? Because neither Indy nor B-more will have a better conference record than us, and we beat Cincy and Tennesee. We haven't lost to any of the teams that Baltimore or Indy have played.

    Here's why I was rooting for Indy today.

    Because of tiebreakers in our favor we have essentially a 1.5 game lead on the Colts for homefield advantage. As long as Baltimore and Indianapolis have the same record then we ALSO have a 1.5 game lead on the Ravens.

    BUT...if the Colts had lost tonight, then we suddenly would have had only a .5 game lead on the Ravens for homefield. We will lose a two-way tie with Baltimore. We either must finish with a better record than them, or we must finish in a three-way tie with B-more and Indy. But a two-way tie with Baltimore kills homefield advantage.
     
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  30. Thunderstruck

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    Common opponents records between the three AFC powerhouses:

    Chargers (5-0)

    Titans 1-0
    Broncos 2-0
    Bengals 1-0
    Bills 1-0

    Colts (4-1)

    Titans 1-1
    Broncos 1-0
    Bengals 1-0
    Bills 1-0

    Ravens (2-2-TBD)

    Titans 1-0
    Broncos 0-1
    Bengals 1-1
    Bills TBD

    (Note: "Common games" must be common to all three teams, and there must be a minimum of 4 common games for this tie-breaker to apply.)
     

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