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Committee proposes replay change

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by ChargerRay, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. ChargerRay

    ChargerRay #FireMcCoy #FirePagano Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3994121&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines

    NEW YORK -- The NFL will look into changing instant replay rules in hopes of avoiding a repeat of the blown call by referee Ed Hochuli that helped cost San Diego a game last season.

    The competition committee will propose that when the ball comes loose when a quarterback is throwing, replay can be used to determine if it is a fumble or an incomplete pass. Such a change would resemble the rules alteration made for down-by-contact plays two years ago.

    In the final minute of a game at Denver in Week 2, Hochuli ruled a ball that slipped from Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler's grasp was an incomplete pass instead of a fumble. The ball was recovered by the Chargers and Hochuli later acknowledged his decision was wrong.
     
  2. maestro876

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    The Cutler Rule
     
  3. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Remember that is an all pro QB there, just listen to any NFL analyst...
     
  4. BOLTS4LIFE

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    That still wouldn't have made a difference. It was all about Hochuli blowing the whistle too early.
     
  5. maestro876

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    The rule-change will also allow the official to award the recovering team possession, which was the main issue. If you listened to Hochuli and the VP in charge of officials afterwards, the issue was that even if the replay shows it was a fumble rather than an incomplete pass, the rules didn't allow the official to award the recovering team with possession of the ball--all they could do is re-spot the ball at the spot of the fumble, which is what happened in our game.
     
  6. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    That play didn't just cost a game, it almost cost us a season.
     
  7. Kwak

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    I like that change. Replay is there to right the wrongs and in that play the call was wrong.

    Should have been game over at that point and we go 9-7 or better. Then the other bull **** about the Draft Reorder, Playoff seeding is never brought up.
     
  8. Sydalish

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    love the picture :icon_rofl: it makes me sing, skip skip skip to my loo!
     
  9. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    No it didn't.
    We could have stopped the 2 pt conversion.
    We didn't have to get our asses kicked by Atlanta at home.
    We could have stopped Carolina at home with 5 seconds left.
    101 yards in penalties should have got us the win in Pittsburgh.
    Holding the Miami offense to 17 points should have been more than enough for a win.

    That's 5 winnable games that we blew!!!
    The playoffs were a gift from Denver... Sad but true!!! :icon_evil:
     
  10. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    T.O.S. = Tired. Old. ****.

    As far as the rule change we may be biased Charger fans but I think we can all agree that the game was ours if Ed hadn't blown the whistle. It's an easy change to make - ability to review any controversial fumble/forward pass/tuck. If they had the balls to bring in the tuck rule they should have the wherewithal to produce the "Cutler rule."
     
  11. BLITZED56

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    Proposal to change “Hochuli rule” reviews

    By BARRY WILNER, AP Football Writer


    NEW YORK (AP)—The NFL will look into changing instant replay rules in hopes of avoiding a repeat of the blown call by referee Ed Hochuli that helped cost San Diego a game last season.

    The competition committee will propose at the league meetings next week that when the ball comes loose when a quarterback is throwing, replay can be used to determine if it is a fumble or an incomplete pass. Such a change would resemble the rules alteration made for down-by-contact plays two years ago.

    In the final minute of a game at Denver in Week 2, Hochuli ruled a ball that slipped from Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler’s grasp was an incomplete pass instead of a fumble. The ball was recovered by the Chargers and Hochuli later acknowledged his decision was wrong.

    Under league rules, the play was not reviewable. The competition committee believes it is an area that should fall under instant replay reviews.

    “We thought when we watched the plays happen, basically it happened the same as the down-by-contact, and it should be reviewable in the same context,” Rich McKay, co-chairman of the committee, said Wednesday.

    Hochuli’s mistake could have cost the Chargers a playoff spot. The Broncos went on to win that September game with a touchdown and a 2-point conversion, and they built a three-game lead in the AFC West.

    But San Diego rallied to win the division.

    McKay said replay reviews for loose balls that are out of bounds when they are recovered also will be proposed.

    The main rules emphasis will be on player safety at the meetings. The committee will suggest eliminating the bunch formation on onside kicks. During discussions with players and coaches, it became clear that bunching up players on such kicks “are creating matchups that we don’t like,” McKay admitted.

    The committee also wants to eliminate the wedge of three men or more blocking on kick returns.

    “Plenty of teams have done it with two-man wedges, some do it with no wedge at all,” McKay said.

    Any hits to the helmet of defenseless receivers also are being targeted for elimination. Previously, only helmet-to-helmet hits have been outlawed.

    “One of things we really focused on this year was player safety rules to eliminate techniques such as helmet-to helmet hits,” NFL vice president of operations Ray Anderson said. “What we certainly noticed toward the second half of the season in particular, our violations for helmet-to-helmet hits started to decline. Players were adapting their play…”

    Helmet-to-helmet contact on blindside hits also would be eliminated or heavily penalized.

    McKay said officials will be encouraged to continue making low hits on quarterbacks and horse-collar tackles points of emphasis.

    Another proposal is to eliminate the re-kick of an onside kick when there is a violation by the kicking team, with the receiving team taking the ball where it was recovered.

    A bylaw change to the order in which teams draft will be discussed by the 32 owners. The competition committee proposes the order remaining the same for non-playoff teams, based on record, with weakness of schedule serving as the tiebreaker. But for playoff teams, they would be seeded according to when they are knocked out in the postseason.

    “A team can win a playoff game and yet get to pick (in the draft) before the team it beat,” McKay said.

    That situation will occur next month when the Colts, who lost to the Chargers in the playoffs, choose 27th, and San Diego goes 16th. Such a change would not apply to this year’s draft.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...ZlDubYF?slug=ap-nflmeetings&prov=ap&type=lgns
     
  12. BOLTS4LIFE

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    Oh. If something like that happens again, there will still be complaints.
    The players heard the whistle and stopped or whatever else but it's till a good change.
     
  13. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    I guess there would have to be overwhelming evidence that a defensive player would have recovered the fumble had the play gone on, when in doubt the offense keeps posession
     
  14. BOLTS4LIFE

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    That was NEVER a question here or pretty much anywhere else.
    But the Bottom Line of it all is that we had plenty of opportunity to slam the door on the AFCW Championship after that call and we didn't.

    As for everything else... I'm not into sugar coating bad situations. I'm also not into patting someone in the back and punching them in the gut at the same time. That's not my style.
    Like everybody in here, I'll take the gift but I realize it was a gift.
     

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