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Conc's Training Camp Battle Preview

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Concudan, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    With Training camp looming on the horizon, lets talk about the battles and expected/predicted outcomes that we will see. I have listed some of the possible battles for positions below. Feel free to comment on them and add your own. Lets wet the appetite for Training camp! Player information and depth chart source; Chargers.com.

    Right Guard
    Goff #79
    When Mike Goff signed with the Chargers in 2004, he immediately assumed a leadership role on the offensive line. He took rookies Nick Hardwick and Shane Olivea under his wing; he opened his Pacific Beach home to second-year guard Kris Dielman and regularly hosted every member of the offensive line at his house for dinner. The camaraderie paid huge dividends as the individuals excelled as a unit. In both of Goff’s first two seasons in San Diego, the Chargers have ranked in the NFL’s top 10 in rushing offense. Due in large part to the play of the offensive line, the Chargers have strung together four consecutive 2,000-yard rushing seasons, the longest such streak in team history and tied with Denver for the longest active streak in the NFL.

    Mruczkowski #63
    2006: Scott Mruczkowski saw action at left guard late in Week 1 after Kris Dielman came out of game with tight hamstring…saw late action in Sept. 17 game against Tennessee at left guard and helped deliver key blocks during 73-yard run by Michael Turner and 14-yard touchdown run by quarterback Charlie Whitehurst two plays later…did not play Weeks 3-4 & 6-9…saw action on offensive line Week 5 at San Francisco and briefly at left guard Week 12 at Buffalo…played on special teams Week 10 at Denver…started Week 11 against Oakland for injured Kris Dielman (ankle) and had solid game against Warren Sapp and Raiders’ front line…Bolts only allowed one sack (-2 yards) in 33 pass plays and blocked for 110 rush yards and two touchdowns…injured knee in Week 13 game versus Denver during PAT and was inactive Week 14.
     
  2. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Wide Out
    Parker #88
    2006: Eric Parker set up touchdown that gave Chargers 20-0 lead in fourth quarter of season opener at Oakland with 38-yard catch on third-and-seven play…was Chargers longest pass play of night and Bolts scored TD two plays later…came up with big 25-yard catch on third-and-nine play late in first quarter against Tennessee Week 2 to sustain drive that ended in touchdown by LT and 10-0 lead for Bolts…was lone catch of Titans game…game-high 86 yards on five catches against Pittsburgh in Sunday Night game Oct. 8…all five catches resulted in first downs, including three on third-down plays…during Bolts third-quarter touchdown drive in which they took lead in game for good, Parker had 16-yard catch and 25-yard catch on successive third-and-seven plays…led team in receiving for second-consecutive week with 88 yards on seven catches at S.F. Oct. 15…five of his seven catches netted first downs, including two on third-down plays during touchdown drives…sparked Bolts’ second-half comeback Week 6 at Kansas City with career-long 50-yard punt return early in third quarter that led to touchdown six plays later that trimmed 20-6 deficit to 20-13…helped Bolts get off to fast start against St. Louis Oct. 29 with 16-yard catch on third-and-12 play during game-opening touchdown drive…later on second play of fourth quarter, caught 22-yard pass on third-and-four play to helped set up touchdown that gave Bolts’ 31-10 lead over Rams…left Nov. 12 game at Cincinnati in second quarter with neck strain…made lone catch for 14 yards during team’s first touchdown drive of game…helped set up Chargers’ first touchdown of game with 10-yard catch on third-and-two play in first quarter at Denver Nov. 19…on first play after catch, LT scored TD on three-yard run for 7-0 lead and capped 99-yard drive, Bolts’ longest since 2001…caught four-yard pass on third-and-three play during Chargers’ game-winning drive against Oakland Nov. 26…two plays after catch, Bolts scored to claim 21-14 lead…had only one catch vs. Denver Dec. 10, but his 34-yard grab in second quarter set up one-yard touchdown run by LT that gave Bolts 21-3 lead…left Dec. 17 K.C. game in first half with neck injury and did not return.

    Floyd #80
    2006: Malcom Floyd caught 31-yard touchdown pass at Baltimore Oct. 1 on play in which Samari Rolle slipped and fell in coverage…caught touchdown pass for second time in as many weeks with nine-yard tiptoeing catch in back corner of the end zone against Pittsburgh Oct. 8 in NBC Sunday Night game…catch withstood instant replay challenge and tied him for team lead with two touchdown catches on season…caught career-long 46-yard touchdown pass in third quarter of 49-41 win at Cincinnati Nov. 12…score helped Chargers get within 28-21 after trailing 28-7…on previous drive, helped set up LT four-yard touchdown run with 27-yard catch and run to four-yard line…subbing for injured Eric Parker (neck), Floyd left Cincinnati with his first-career 100-yard game, hauling in five catches for 109 yards and score…among catches was late fourth-quarter 12-yard tiptoe catch along boundary on third-and-nine play…catch withstood replay challenge and kept drive alive that ended six plays later with touchdown that give Chargers final points in win over Bengals…inactive for Week 13 Denver game with ankle injury…placed on “Reserve-Injured” list due to ankle injury Dec. 14.
     
  3. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Backup QB
    Volek #7
    2006: Billy Volek spent Weeks 1-2 as third quarterback for Tennessee Titans…was inactive as third quarterback for Chargers Weeks 3-5…did not play as backup quarterback Weeks 6-14.

    Whitehurst #6
    2006: Charlie Whitehurst did not play Weeks 1, 3-4…took over for Philip Rivers late in fourth quarter of Tennessee game Sept. 17 and scored first-career NFL touchdown on 14-yard run…played one series against Titans and did not attempt any passes…closed out S.F. game Oct. 15 with kneel down on final play of game…inactive as third quarterback Weeks 6-14.
     
  4. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Inside Line Backer:
    Cooper #54:
    2006: Stephen Cooper played Weeks 1-14…closed out 27-0 win at Oakland with late fourth-quarter six-yard sack of Andrew Walter…Week 3 at Baltimore, tackled Daniel Wilcox at one-yard line and forced fumble to prevent potential score…ball was recovered by Donnie Edwards…tallied season-high eight tackles and tied team-high with two special teams stops in Nov. 12 win at Cincinnati…turned in stellar performance against Denver Dec. 10 while starting for injured Randall Godfrey…led team with nine tackles, including eight-yard sack, and made two spectacular pass breakups in open field…both pass breakups occurred during same second-quarter drive when Chargers led 21-3 and they helped force Denver to punt…after punt, Bolts put together 13-play, 80-yard drive that ended with touchdown for 28-3 lead.

    Waters #53:
    Waters deflected seven passes in 2005, the most by a Clemson linebacker since Kenzil Jackson had seven in 1991... Ranks second among active Tigers with 22.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage... An avid weight lifter, Waters ranks seventh on the team with a 375-pound hang clean and ninth with a 405-pound bench press (February of 2006)... His 35.5-inch vertical jump is the ninth-best recorded by a Clemson tight end, fullback or linebacker since 1984.
    Selected by the Chargers in the 3rd round, 96th overall
     
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    Inside Line Backer:
    Wilhelm #57:
    2006: Matt Wilhelm played Weeks 1-14 on defense and special teams…tied for team high with two special teams tackles Sept. 17 against Tennessee…second on squad with two special teams tackles against Pittsburgh Oct. 8 and he and Clinton Hart combined to tackle Bryant McFadden for two-yard loss on fake punt attempt in first quarter…had big hand in Bolts’ 21-14 win over Oakland Nov. 26 by tipping pass at line of scrimmage that was intercepted by Drayton Florence on first play after two-minute warning in fourth quarter…interception came on fourth-and-13 play and Chargers ran out clock for win…also tied for team high with two special teams stops against Raiders.

    Dobbins #51:
    2006: Tim Dobbins played Weeks 1-14, primarily on special teams…tied Matt Wilhelm for team lead with two special teams tackles in Week 2…led squad with two special teams stops Week 3 at Baltimore…added two more ST stops at SF Week 5…led team with pair of special teams stops at Buffalo Dec. 3…logged two special teams stops in Dec. 10 win over Denver.
     
  6. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Corner Back:
    Florence #29
    With Florence in the starting lineup, the Chargers’ pass defense has steadily improved the last two years. In 2003 the Bolts surrendered a team-record 36 touchdown passes and won only four games. Florence moved into the starting lineup during the 2004 season and the touchdown total dropped to 19 in ’04 and 20 in ’05. In the last two years the Chargers have combined to win 21 games.

    One of the keys to Drayton’s success is his offseason workout regimen. Aside from his work in the Chargers’ offseason conditioning program, Florence has spent the last five years training in Florida with All-Pro wide receiver Randy Moss at the Randy Moss Speed Academy. The workouts last two to three hours, five days a week in Florida’s heat and high humidity. Drayton also has hired a personal trainer with whom he practices yoga and Pilates, and he works out three times a week at the Reyes Boxing Gym in Chula Vista.

    Cromartie #31
    2006: Antonio Cromartie saw action Weeks 1-14 on defense and special teams…made outstanding play in single coverage to break up deep pass near goal line intended for Torry Holt in Oct. 29 game against St. Louis…had perhaps best day as pro in Chargers’ 32-25 win over Cleveland Nov. 5…in first quarter with score tied 3-3, chased down NFL’s leading punt returner Dennis Northcutt as he appeared on way to 91-yard touchdown return…was able to catch him from across field and force out of bounds at 10-yard line…instead of touchdown, San Diego’s defense held Cleveland to field goal and kept score at 6-3 instead of 10-3…made even bigger play on special teams late in third quarter…with Cleveland up 12-10, Chargers punted from Browns’ 37-yard line and he made great play to get downfield and down ball at two-yard line…San Diego’s defense forced three-and-out on ensuing drive and after Browns punt, LaDainian Tomlinson scored touchdown on 41-yard run on first play to give San Diego lead for good at 17-12…on top of it all, Cromartie finished game with team-high two special teams tackles…helped force third quarter three-and-out in Chargers Nov. 19 win at Denver…with Chargers’ trailing 24-14, broke up deep pass intended for Rod Smith on first-down play…after three-and-out, Bolts scored TD to climb back within 24-21…set up Chargers’ first touchdown of Oakland game Nov. 26 with 91-yard kickoff return…it tied for seventh-longest in team history and was Bolts’ longest since Ronney Jenkins 93-yarder against Raiders in Oakland Nov. 18, 2001…LT scored on four-yard run two plays after KOR…teamed with Kassim Osgood to down punt at two-yard line in second quarter of Dec. 3 game at Buffalo…afterward, defense forced three-and-out and offense scored TD before end of half to take 17-0 lead to locker room…helped set up touchdown that gave Chargers 21-3 lead over Denver Dec. 10 with 45-yard kickoff return.
     
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    Strong Safety:
    Hart #42
    2006: Clinton Hart played Weeks 1-14 on defense and special teams…collected two special teams stops in season opener at Oakland…started Week 3 at Baltimore at strong safety, collecting six tackles…delivered big-time performance in Oct. 8 Sunday Night Football game against Pittsburgh, leading team with three tackles on special teams…also collected tackle for loss when he and Matt Wilhelm combined to stop Bryant McFadden for two-yard loss on fake punt attempt in second quarter…racked up career-high six tackles on special teams to go along with four stops on defense Oct. 15 at San Francisco…put Chargers in position to potentially drive for late game-winning score in fourth quarter of Oct. 22 game at Kansas City with third-down pass defensed against Tony Gonzalez to force punt…second on squad with two special teams tackles Oct. 29 vs. Rams…turned in several big plays in Nov. 5 game against Cleveland…broke up second-quarter pass intended for Braylon Edwards and Donnie Edwards came away with interception on play…also had forced fumble in game and tied for team high with two passes defensed…tied for team high with two special teams tackles Nov. 12 at Cincinnati…intercepted pass and recovered fumble at Buffalo Dec. 3…recovered fumble on last play of first half and intercepted JP Losman in fourth quarter with Chargers leading 24-14.

    Weddle #32
    2006 SEASON First-team All-American choice by The NFL Draft Report, American Football Coaches Association, Sports Illustrated, The Sporting News, College Football News and Rivals.com, adding second-team honors from the Walter Camp Foundation and Associated Press... Earned Walter Camp National Player of the Week honors vs. San Diego State... All-Mountain West Conference first-team selection and chosen MWC Defensive Player of the Year for the second-straight season... Became the first Utah player since Luther Elliss in 1994 to earn consensus All-American accolades... Led the conference and tied for eighth in the nation with seven interceptions for 80 yards in returns with two touchdowns... Ranked fourth on the squad with 64 tackles (40 solos), including a 7-yard sack and 2.5 stops for losses of 8 yards... Caused a fumble and recovered three others for 35 yards in returns, including a touchdown... Deflected two passes and gained 44 yards on eight punt returns (5.5 avg)... Completed 2-of-4 passes for 43 yards and a score... Rushed 44 times for 203 yards (4.6 avg) and five touchdowns... Started all thirteen games, lining up at strong safety for the first two games before shifting to left cornerback for seven contests, closing out the final four games as the team’s nickel back... Opponents averaged 6.03 yards per pass attempt vs. Weddle, who registered fourteen third-down stops (seven vs. the pass) and one more on fourth-down action.
     
  8. Concudan

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    Punt Returner:
    Parker #88
    2006: Eric Parker set up touchdown that gave Chargers 20-0 lead in fourth quarter of season opener at Oakland with 38-yard catch on third-and-seven play…was Chargers longest pass play of night and Bolts scored TD two plays later…came up with big 25-yard catch on third-and-nine play late in first quarter against Tennessee Week 2 to sustain drive that ended in touchdown by LT and 10-0 lead for Bolts…was lone catch of Titans game…game-high 86 yards on five catches against Pittsburgh in Sunday Night game Oct. 8…all five catches resulted in first downs, including three on third-down plays…during Bolts third-quarter touchdown drive in which they took lead in game for good, Parker had 16-yard catch and 25-yard catch on successive third-and-seven plays…led team in receiving for second-consecutive week with 88 yards on seven catches at S.F. Oct. 15…five of his seven catches netted first downs, including two on third-down plays during touchdown drives…sparked Bolts’ second-half comeback Week 6 at Kansas City with career-long 50-yard punt return early in third quarter that led to touchdown six plays later that trimmed 20-6 deficit to 20-13…helped Bolts get off to fast start against St. Louis Oct. 29 with 16-yard catch on third-and-12 play during game-opening touchdown drive…later on second play of fourth quarter, caught 22-yard pass on third-and-four play to helped set up touchdown that gave Bolts’ 31-10 lead over Rams…left Nov. 12 game at Cincinnati in second quarter with neck strain…made lone catch for 14 yards during team’s first touchdown drive of game…helped set up Chargers’ first touchdown of game with 10-yard catch on third-and-two play in first quarter at Denver Nov. 19…on first play after catch, LT scored TD on three-yard run for 7-0 lead and capped 99-yard drive, Bolts’ longest since 2001…caught four-yard pass on third-and-three play during Chargers’ game-winning drive against Oakland Nov. 26…two plays after catch, Bolts scored to claim 21-14 lead…had only one catch vs. Denver Dec. 10, but his 34-yard grab in second quarter set up one-yard touchdown run by LT that gave Bolts 21-3 lead…left Dec. 17 K.C. game in first half with neck injury and did not return.

    Sproles #43
    2005: Averaged 36.5 yards on four kickoff returns with long of 49 yards in season opener against Dallas…49-yard return on opening kickoff of third quarter helped set table for Keenan McCardell touchdown catch to give San Diego 21-14 lead…46-yard return later in third quarter set up Nate Kaeding 33-yard field goal that gave Chargers 24-21 lead…season-long 58-yard kickoff return in fourth quarter against New York Giants Sept. 25 led to LaDainian Tomlinson touchdown six plays later and 42-23 lead…21-yard run on third-and-two play in third quarter on lone carry of night kept drive alive and helped set up Drew Brees to Antonio Gates touchdown that gave Bolts 35-20 lead…averaged 33.5 yards on four kickoff returns against Giants…injured ankle at end of New England game Oct. 2…averaged impressive 31.4 yards per return on five kickoffs against Pittsburgh on Monday Night Football Oct. 10…48-yard return in second quarter ignited drive that set up Gates touchdown to help Chargers overcome 14-0 deficit…inactive Week 6 at Oakland nursing ankle injury…31-yard kickoff return in fourth quarter of 28-20 win over Kansas City Oct. 30 helped set up touchdown to give Bolts 28-13 lead after Chiefs had climbed to within 21-13…50-yard kickoff return helped set up field goal to give Chargers final points in 31-26 win over New York Jets on Nov. 6…posted 47-yard kickoff return against Washington Nov. 27.
     
  9. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Kick Returner:
    Turner #33
    2006: Michael Turner capped off season opening 27-0 win at Oakland with one-yard touchdown run in fourth quarter…racked up second-career 100-yard game with 138 yards against Tennessee Sept. 17…30-yard run on first play of fourth quarter helped move Chargers into scoring position and set up touchdown pass from Philip Rivers to Vincent Jackson to give Bolts 33-0 edge over Titans…set up Bolts’ final touchdown of game with 73-yard run late in fourth quarter, tying for seventh-longest run from scrimmage in team history…took ball from Chargers’ 12-yard line to Titans’ 15-yard line and two plays later, Charlie Whitehurst scored on 14-yard run for final points in 40-7 win…led team with 56 yards rushing in Oct. 8 Sunday Night Football game against Pittsburgh…career-long 51-yard kickoff return on opening kickoff of second half led to field goal that cut deficit to 13-10 and set stage for quarter in which Bolts outscored Steelers 10-0 to seize control of game…helped Chargers to first touchdown with five-yard carry on third-and-one play during game’s opening drive against St. Louis Oct. 29…Bolts scored touchdown three plays later to take 7-0 lead…then helped put away Rams with 14-yard touchdown run that gave Bolts 31-10 lead early in fourth quarter…21-yard run helped set up team’s final touchdown in 32-25 win over Cleveland Nov. 5…helped ignite Chargers’ second-half comeback win in Cincinnati with season-high 188 yards in kickoff returns, including 49 yarder in third quarter that helped ignite touchdown drive…also had 49-yard return in first half against Bengals…had two 40+ returns in Nov. 19 win at Denver that both ignited touchdown drives…in third quarter, 40-yard return after Denver scored TD on INT return helped start touchdown drive that got Chargers back to within 10 points (24-14)…then in fourth quarter after Denver kicked field goal to take 27-21 lead, had 44-yard return that set up drive which ended with touchdown pass that allowed Bolts to seize lead, 28-27…strained hamstring in practice week leading up to Oakland game Nov. 26 and was inactive Weeks 11-13…returned to action Week 14 vs. K.C. and helped set up Chargers’ first touchdown of game with 25-yard run on perfectly executed fake punt in first quarter…led to 15-yard TD run by Tomlinson three plays later…in third quarter after Chiefs had kicked field goal to get within 14-6, broke off season-long 58-yard kickoff return that would set up field goal to push lead back to 11 points at 17-6.

    Sproles #43
    2005: Averaged 36.5 yards on four kickoff returns with long of 49 yards in season opener against Dallas…49-yard return on opening kickoff of third quarter helped set table for Keenan McCardell touchdown catch to give San Diego 21-14 lead…46-yard return later in third quarter set up Nate Kaeding 33-yard field goal that gave Chargers 24-21 lead…season-long 58-yard kickoff return in fourth quarter against New York Giants Sept. 25 led to LaDainian Tomlinson touchdown six plays later and 42-23 lead…21-yard run on third-and-two play in third quarter on lone carry of night kept drive alive and helped set up Drew Brees to Antonio Gates touchdown that gave Bolts 35-20 lead…averaged 33.5 yards on four kickoff returns against Giants…injured ankle at end of New England game Oct. 2…averaged impressive 31.4 yards per return on five kickoffs against Pittsburgh on Monday Night Football Oct. 10…48-yard return in second quarter ignited drive that set up Gates touchdown to help Chargers overcome 14-0 deficit…inactive Week 6 at Oakland nursing ankle injury…31-yard kickoff return in fourth quarter of 28-20 win over Kansas City Oct. 30 helped set up touchdown to give Bolts 28-13 lead after Chiefs had climbed to within 21-13…50-yard kickoff return helped set up field goal to give Chargers final points in 31-26 win over New York Jets on Nov. 6…posted 47-yard kickoff return against Washington Nov. 27.
     
  10. SanDiegoRon

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    I like "my boy" Raging Waters to be starrting by mid-season (assuming he stays outta jail).... :lol:
     
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  11. Concudan

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    I believe that Waters will prove to be the steal of the draft.
     
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    Two battles that I am most intrigued by are Parker V Floyd and Flo V Cro...

    I think that Floyd, if he can stay healthy (????) could be the suprise player of the year.:yes:

    I hope that Flo steps it up, but I really want to see Cro become that guy we all think he can become.:tup:

    I am somewhat interested in Weddle V Hart but I think that Hart will have to really screw the pooch to lose that spot.:yes:
     
  13. Concudan

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    I can agree with those takes.

    I am personally interested in the competition between Waters and Cooper. I think the job is Coops to lose, but Waters is a physically gifted player who if the staff knew what they were doing, is abe to get on the field again and play.
     
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    He bench pressed a Yukon?
     
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    I have to agree as well. Hart has talent and the edge that experience gives to an NFL DB. Weddle will start one day, probably in McCree's spot. Cro will push Flo, but mostly I expect to see him a lot in the Nickel. Weddle and Cro give us depth we haven't had for some time, with Jue on the roster.
     
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    I think Goff is pretty secure as starting at guard. Mruczkowski will be good for depth, but unless Goff suffers a serious drop-off in play I think his job is safe.

    You may as well throw Davis and VJ up there with Parker and Floyd because none of them have ever had statistically dominant full season performances. I know most people (myself included) have VJ penned in as our #1 guy this year. But I don't expect it to be automatic. He's going to have to work his azz off and stay healthy if he's gonna be the man.

    I have to give the nod to Volek as our backup this season. He had some huge games with the Titans and by virtue of his experience I think he's our backup.

    While I agree that any of those four ILBs could crack the starting lineup it seems like there is some consensus that Wilhelm and Cooper have shown us the most to date. Hanastly, if there's competition here during TC it means that somebody is underperforming and that would not be a good thing. Hopefully there is no competition here and Wilhelm and Cooper own it.

    I get the vibe from some of the offseason articles the UT has published that the orginzation is still more comfortable with Florence than with Cro. I get the impression that Florence, while not quite as physically gifted, is a little more polished and understands his responsibilites and position better than Cro. Plus it's a contract year for him so you now he's going to bust his azz to earn that big off season FA deal.

    Clinton Hart couldn't beat out Terrance Kiel to be a lock as a starting safety. So I'm not nearly as high on him as Trumpie. But I wont deny that the ball seems to find its way into his hands. I really like everything I've read about Weddle, and I think this will be the tightest and most interesting competition.

    I'm all for Sproles returning kicks because I'd rather see him taking shots than MT and EP. Turner has been really solid as a kick returner, and given his size is probably less worried about getting whacked. But he's so valuable as a bacup to LT that I don't want to risk him getting hurt.
     
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    Cooper will keep his job.......so long as the motor keeps running.
     
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    :icon_rofl: 4005 lb bench press is damn good. :lol:
     
  19. Alpenbolt

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    My predictions.

    Floyd definitely emerges as the number one go to receiver in my book.

    I said it last year and others here have also that VJ waits for the ball to come to him and that doesn't cut it in the NFL. Big strong fast and all are completely neutralized by his ball catching style. Lets see, maybe he learned some things in the off-season.

    Watch for surprisingly big things from Davis in the 2nd half (when Floyd gets hurt like he always does)

    Parker is pissed off and will have a really good year.
     
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    Since Shammy isn't here:

    Goff and Hart SUCK!!! cut them both :yes:





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  21. LittleTrain

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    How is it that Kiel was better than Hart and Hart is a lock to start over Weddle, yet when we traded the moon to get Weddle he was supposed to be an instant upgrade over Kiel?

    Cro blows too many coverages to start over Flo right now. The physical talent gap just isn't that much either. It's probably the two most physically gifted athletes on the team fighting over one spot.

    An interesting question will be what happens if Flo holds onto the ball this year and gets 8 or so INTs. Jammer continues to be solid but with only a couple of INTs. Then either Cro is solid and makes some plays at nickle and has 5 or so INTs, or (scenario two) he's shaky and blows coverages still and the coaches see him as too much of a risk to start.

    Anyway Flo becomes a priority in either of those situations? Is Jammer completely out of the evaluation if both are creating TOs and playing well?
     
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    It is PRETTY good...

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  23. Concudan

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    Those them plastic dumbells aint they?! :mellow:
     
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    I think the better Flo plays the less likely it is that we'll be in the bidding for his services at the end of the season. Jammer and Cro both have large and lengthy contracts that I don't think we can get out of. And I just can not see AJ paying three CBs 'lockdown' type money.
     
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    Four little words: Cardio is your friend.
     
  26. Thread_Killer

    Thread_Killer Well-Known Member

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    My body-fat percentage is just fine, thank you very much.
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  27. Thread_Killer

    Thread_Killer Well-Known Member

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    Excellent post.

    I agree with your takes about VJ. I also think that Parker shouldn't be written off, and has a legitimate chance to be our #1 WR.
     
  28. PhillyChargerFan

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    :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl:

    Come on TK you have to admit that was pretty funny :yes:
     
  29. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    So let me ask this to everyone. What is your prediction on the big camp surprise? Which player will move up in the ranks due to their production in camp and preseason?

    For me, its Waters.
     

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