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Discussion: Chargers v. Vikings

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Concudan, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Ok...

    Soooo... Might as well acknowledge the gorilla in the corner...

    Norval Turner returns!

    So will he have insight that will help the Vikes game plan for PR17?
     
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    Im going to this game, is anybody else??
     
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    I don't think Norv's insight will help in scheming against our QB since Rivers is pretty good on the fly.

    I think this is a good matchup for the Chargers and I think we will win in Minnesota! Everybody things we will get run over by Peterson but I think out run defence has improved heaps this year and we can at least minimize the damage AP can do. Bridgewater hasn't looked great this year and our secondary has been playing really well. If we can get a consistent pass rush going then we could have a good time defensively against them.

    I think Melvin Gordon breaks his 100 yard duck in this game and I also think he scores his first touchdown!
     
  4. Chaincrusher

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    No, our run defense is not better than it was a year ago. Despite other improvements being made, upgrading our run defense has pretty much been ignored by Telesco since he became GM. In 2012, we were 5th in the NFL in yards per carry against. Telesco came in and allowed Franklin to walk and failed to draft/sign someone that could fill his shoes in terms of his value to the run defense. Those shoes have remained unfilled to the present.

    The result has been that in 2013 we dropped to 27th in the NFL at 4.6 yards per carry against. Last year, we finished 29th in the NFL, again with 4.6 yards per carry against. This year, we are 27th in the NFL, but are actually giving up slightly greater yards per carry at 4.7 yards per opponent carry.

    Both of our opponents ran the ball much more effectively against us than they did against their other opponent this year.

    During the entire Telesco/McCoy/Pagano era we have seen the exact same thing--an undersized DL getting dominated in the running game such that the OL is able to get into the LBs, who are all too frequently incapable of shedding the blocks and making the plays that need to be made.

    When we know that the other team is running the ball, we still struggle to stop it and we usually give up huge gains on the ground unless we are specifically playing to stop the run. Opponents seem to routinely push the pile for extra yardage against us.

    When we finally decide to fix this major problem, I think we will find that there will be returns in the pass defense as well as the down and distance situations will become clearer in terms of suggesting either run or pass as we can think pass on 2nd and 9, but we don't know what to play for on the all too regular 2nd and 5 after a first down and 10 running play has just taken place.
     
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    Zero turnovers = 2-1 record
     
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    Just punch em in the mouth. Norv's teams are infamously known to not like physical play.

    Gordon HAS to have 20 carries in this game and for crying out loud have him as goaline threat!
     
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    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    If we get the lead early, Norv will completely forget about Adrian Peterson.

    Unfortunately we don't seem to like playing good football in the first half.
     
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    Let me remind you again that Norv Turner is NOT the HC of the Vikings! So what's all this talk of Norv this, Norv that?! Does he have an input? Absolutely and even more so against the Chargers, but stop referring to the Vikings as Norv's team as it ain't so!
     
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    House of Hayne Chargers Smash

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    Gordon has to be in more passing plays because when he is in the game = we are running the ball not passing and the defense knows it.
     
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    I wouldn't mind Gordon and Woodhead in the backfield at the same time

    split to either side on short screens, good luck with that one.


    ok BRB applying for Reich's job
     
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    Fantasy question, I have minnesota defense and Baltimore, do I take Min vs chargers or Baltimore vs Cin this week?

    I was going to take Min because based on the last two games, I will have a few guaranteed points due to turnovers
     
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    Knee jerk in Minn. But Baltimore and Cinci are divisional rivals, the Baltimore D will play them better than other non-divisional teams, you would think.
     
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    Conc, at this pace you will tire yourself out and will fall sleep again on the actual Gameday, aka Conc crawling under his bed cover in fetal position while suckling on his thumb (Vodka bottle close by) and praying for a W :laugh:
     
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    Why should game day be any different than all my other days?
     
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    Because you are "special" ;)
     
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    thanks for using the PC version... :oops:
     
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    Wow! I am less than 200 posts from 50k! Do I get an ice cream bar at 50K?
     
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    You get to kick Donald brown in the nuts
     
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    Oh, sh*t! Let me get that other 49,500+ posts out there right now!
     
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    By the way, Concudan, nearly 50,000 posts is truly amazing!
     
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