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Does Manning fit in the AFC West?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by CoronaDoug, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. CoronaDoug

    CoronaDoug Well-Known Member

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    Lets's hope not!!
    By Bill Williamson

    It’s Peyton Manning season.

    The much anticipated open season on arguably the best player ever to play in the NFL is about to commence. ESPN’s Chris Mortensen is reporting the Colts and Manning will appear at a news conference Wednesday to announce that he will be cut. Manning -- who missed all of last season with a neck injury --plans to continue playing. He will be the premier free agent available.

    How does this relate to the AFC West?

    Manning could very well end up a Kansas City Chief or a Denver Bronco.

    Friday, I looked at the reasons why Manning would fit in Kansas City. Meanwhile, in an Insider piece [​IMG] Tuesday, Chris Sprow looks at what type of impact Manning would have in Kansas City. At the combine, Kansas City coach Romeo Crennel indicated the Chiefs would be apt to consider signing Manning if he became available. Well, he will be available by week’s end.

    I also wouldn’t be shocked if Denver at least thinks about adding Manning. Denver’s top decision maker is legendary quarterback John Elway. He won his two Super Bowls at the age of 37 and 38. Manning turns 36 in 18 days.

    Plus, Manning would be one of the few quarterbacks Denver could add that would likely make the fan base understand why the team would want to replace Tim Tebow, who, but the way, could season under Manning’s tutelage. Like Kansas City, Denver has an improving roster and Denver coach John Fox has always been partial to veteran quarterbacks.

    Moments ago on ‘SportsCenter’, ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer said he thinks Denver and Arizona are the best fits for Manning. He noted Elway’s presence as a positive factor for Manning.

    Of course, it’s all fodder at this point. However, expect the Manning speculation to hit full tilt now that he is officially going to be a former Colt.


    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/54698/peyton-manning-is-about-to-become-available
     
  2. CoronaDoug

    CoronaDoug Well-Known Member

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    If Peyton Manning Joins Chiefs, Kansas City Will Win AFC West In 2012

    by Matt Conner
    Every team has a reason to feel good about their chances in 2012. The AFC West is a winnable division, and every team within it has its positive points to look toward for the 2012NFL season. But if the Kansas City Chiefs are able to lure Peyton Manning as a free agent, the division becomes a lost cause for everyone else.
    The Denver Broncos certainly have a reason to be hopeful. They made a great turnaround last year, but a closer look reveals a weaker schedule, a string of lucky last minute wins and plenty of holes still on the roster. They have some great young players for sure and they will be players, but they’re not good enough to win twice in a row.
    The Oakland Raiders are going to have a hard time filling roster holes with salary cap issues and a lack of draft picks to utilize along the way. Losses in free agency are going to set the team back, and it’s unknown at this time what the new GM/head coach tandem of Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen will bring. Armed with Carson Palmer, it’s not likely to bring a division title.
    The San Diego Chargers are also dealing with a lot of holes to fill and the likely losses of Mike Tolbert, Vincent Jackson and others. The offensive line is a mess with Kris Dielman retiring and injury concerns for many others. Phil Rivers will always keep the Chargers competitive, but they’re not the elite division winners they once were.
    The Chiefs, on the other hand, came within a win of the division title in a season that they fired their own head coach. They never had impact players like Jamaal Charles or Eric Berry for the whole season, and many others were lost due to injury. If the Chiefs had been willing to pick up Kyle Orton for a seventh round choice before the trade deadline, it’s likely they are winners of two AFC West titles in a row.
    If you add Manning to the mix and even take his health questions into account, suddenly the Chiefs become a complete offense to go with a strong defensive unit. The Chiefs are likely to invest heavily in the offensive line through the draft, which would give Manning a solid unit up front. He also has Dwayne Bowe, Steve Breaston and Jon Baldwin as targets along with the returning Tony Moeaki from injury. Jamaal Charles will anchor the backfield.
    The AFC West is weak compared to other divisions. If the Chiefs can lure Manning, they should be an easy grab as the division champs next year and they would also give Peyton a quick ride to the playoffs. It’s a great match if both sides are interested, yet it’s one partnership the rest of the AFC West is hoping to avoid.

    http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kans...-chiefs-kansas-city-will-win-afc-west-in-2012
     
  3. CoronaDoug

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    The Broncos are interested in Peyton Manning and it makes perfect sense

    Imagine for a second that you're John Elway. You're in charge of building the Denver Broncos into a championship contender, and Tim Tebow is currently your quarterback. You like and admire Tebow, but you have doubts about whether or not he'll develop into a legitimate passer, and if he can't, that the Tebow run-option offense will work forever.


    Still in Elway's shoes, imagine what's going to happen to you if you have Tim Tebow on the bench to start the 2012 season. You'll spend the next six months scraping eggs off of every car on the lot at John Elway Chevrolet.

    That is, unless, there's some kind of mega-star quarterback available. Someone who's mentioned in every conversation about the best quarterbacks to ever play the game. Someone against whom even the most devout Tebowite couldn't argue.

    And hey, look at that ‒ there happens to be such a quarterback available.
    There's no shortage of reports indicating that the Broncos are interested in Manning. Here are four of them.

    If you're one of the people who believe that Tim Tebow is not the long-term answer at quarterback, you can make a pretty good argument that Denver needs Peyton Manning worse than anyone else does. The Broncos are going to sign someone. If it's not Manning, maybe it's Alex Smith or Jason Campbell. Maybe Donovan McNabb. Maybe they bring Kyle Orton back.

    Imagine the revolt if someone from that group starts over Tebow. Not just from the fans, but from the locker room, too. Denver's season will be over before it starts. There is exactly one quarterback out there who gives the Broncos an upgrade at quarterback and squashes a Tebow-crazed revolt. Peyton Manning.

    It might also be the best possible thing that can happen to Tebow. If you need to learn better throwing mechanics and the mental side of being a quarterback in the NFL, who better to observe than Peyton Manning? He's the prototype. If reading defenses was reading books, then Peyton Manning would bethis lady, and Tim Tebow would be Dexter Manley.

    Maybe it'll happen. Maybe it won't. It might be a good idea for the people of Denver to start wrapping their heads around the idea, though.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...on-manning-makes-perfect-sense-165445194.html
     
  4. Buck Melanoma

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    We pretty much owned Peytie-Pie in Indy. Why not more of the same if he should end up in our division?
     
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  5. CoronaDoug

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    It would make the team he selected even better against other opponents. We don't need any more competition in our own division. Especially with our recent showings the last couple of years.
     
  6. Buck Melanoma

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    The Chargers should focus on building a team that can compete with the best, not run scared from the possibility of a Manning-led division opponent.

    If they can't run with the big dogs then get outta the way.
     
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  7. SDRaiderH8er

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    if you cant beat the best you dont deserve to be there.
     
  8. CoronaDoug

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    Agree. AJ and Norv will most likely have only one more off season to try and compete with the best. After this season then someone else will give it a shot.
     
  9. CoronaDoug

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    I have understood that you just need to win in your division to get in the dance. At least that is what AJ has been preaching. :poop:
     
  10. SDRaiderH8er

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    so you accept the one and done logic.
     
  11. CoronaDoug

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    I think that AJ has tried to build the team to win the division. He says that we need to get to the dance and then see what happens. It didn't take much for us to win the division (in the past) so AJ didn't have to really build a dominate team. Dean also didn't have to open his wallet. Now that his arse is to the fire, we will see if that changes. I don't foresee AJ and Norv being around next year unless we get deep in the playoffs.
     
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    Maybe some competition would be good. It would make the team realize that they cannot start slow and try to just finish strong. They will need to play well ALL YEAR to win the division
     
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    So far, AJ's plan is working like a charm. ;)
     
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    Manning visits Broncos in Denver

    Posted by Mike Florio on March 9, 2012, 1:46 PM EST
    A few years ago, when we’d catch wind of a tip that we trusted, we’d just use it. Now that we’re mainstream (sort of) and legitimate (partially), we have to be a little more careful.
    And so, sometimes, we’ll drop hints about something we’ve heard but can’t yet report. Like last night, when suggesting that it would be a good idea to keep an eye on Stillwater, Oklahoma.
    A tipster, whom we regarded as either very trustworthy or an evil genius, told PFT last night that Peyton Manning will meet with BV.P. of football operations John Elway and other Broncos officials in Stillwater and then head to Denver to meet with Broncos owner Pat Bowlen.
    Mike Klis and Woody Paige of the Denver Post now report that Manning will meetwith the Broncos in Denver on Friday night.
    Earlier on Friday, Mike Sando of ESPN.com connected the dots via flightaware.com, tracking a plane linked to Bowlen flew to Stillwater on Thursday night, and then made an early-morning trip to Miami and back to Stillwater.
     
  15. Blue Bolt

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    Interesting that despite just visiting his home in Florida, Peyton Manning's first trip is to Denver. ;)
     
  16. SDRaiderH8er

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    he should build the team to win the super bowl, he has done a fine job building a team to win the division.
     
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  17. CoronaDoug

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    South Florida (Miami) is a sh1thole. I don't know why he would even want a house there.
    Maybe because nobody there recognizes him. That group of people down there don't watch football.
     
  18. Ikeman83

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    Denver has a lot to offer Manning. It's also not a complete circus like South Beach is.
     
  19. SDRaiderH8er

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    BUT. Colorado pays State Income taxes, Florida doesnt.
     
  20. Ikeman83

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    Manning is worth upwards (and I would put this as a low estimate) of 200 million dollars. He won't be playing on the cheap, but I seriously doubt that the 4.63% state income tax is going to have any impact whatsoever on his decision.
     
  21. Ride The Lightning

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    THIS
     
  22. The LBC

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    I actually don't fear a Manning-run Broncos offense all that much. Why? Because it's still John Fox's scheme which dictates running the ball 60% of the time. Now... will they likely be more effective running the ball (assuming they've got someone more durable than Willis or better than Moreno) with Peyton under center because defenses won't cheat and force them to pass like they did with Tebow? Sure, but we're used to dealing with run-happy Denver. I don't want him in KC... that said, I really don't see much of a reason why he'd want to go to KC. Sure... folks point to them being this great wealth of young talent... and they've got some. But they're a team that's always lacked consistency even with their "talent" and some of their best talent are skill position guys coming back off of injuries the like of which general take more than a year to fully recover from and can affect speed and burst long-term - which is crucial to the positions these players play.

    I actually want him in Miami if for no other reason than it makes the path of teams like the Pats and Ravens more difficult in terms of getting those higher playoff seeds and homefield advantage locks. That failing, I'd like to see him in Arizona - let him have a safety blanket top receiver, a dome (I think this may factor in a lot more than some folks are giving it credit for), and a coach he has some familiarity with (from those several Pro Bowls that Whisenhunt coached in as the OC on the Steelers staff).
     
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