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Downtown or bust for a Chargers stadium

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    By Nick Canepa , UNION-TRIBUNE COLUMNIST
    Wednesday, July 21, 2010


    Throughout their choppy, meandering eight-year voyage to discover welcome land for a new football stadium, the Chargers have fired no shots across bows and issued no threats. Nor have they asked for clearance at other ports, such as L.A.
    The ultimatum, that they will find somewhere else to dock, has been provided courtesy of the media and those who see an NFL pirate under every shovel of dirt.
    But, clearly, this is a passage nearing its conclusion, even if no destination has been clearly determined. My gut is that, if the efforts to get a downtown stadium built fail, this is it.
    “You don’t want to say this is it,” says Mark Fabiani, the Chargers’ point man on the new stadium search. “I defy anybody to look at this process and identify a threat by us. But, the reality is, after eight years and $10 million spent cycling through site after site, we’re not left with a lot of alternatives. There is no magic 100-acre site anybody’s heard about.”
    No, this is the last stand. We’re running out of time, and I see no reason why we shouldn’t be.
    Millions of dollars and hundreds of man hours have been put into the process, and for what? Disappointment, in a county where getting an outhouse built takes a ballot measure. Sooner or later, as the tree continues to bear no fruit, the care and feeding has to stop.
    For once the franchise seems to have the support of a mayor, Jerry Sanders — and perhaps some constituents, with enough vision to see through the bureaucratic fog. And that, alone, is a Super Bowl victory of sorts.
    “The truth is, we’re getting down to the final options — and this may be the last option,” Fabiani says. “We may go back and look at Escondido if this doesn’t work, but I don’t see a dramatic, 11th-hour site that will solve everybody’s problem.
    “I get it all the time, ‘Why don’t you just tell people you’re going to leave unless it gets done?’ You can’t deal with people that way. You can’t break the bond with the fans and the public. Threats may have worked in other cities, but that just isn’t Dean’s style.”
    Fabiani is speaking of club President Dean Spanos, who has been patient during this process as he’s watched stadiums go up in other NFL cities.
    “I never really thought it would go on this long,” says Fabiani, in charge since the beginning. “There has been a tremendous investment made by Dean and his family. We’ve seen new stadiums in Indianapolis, Dallas and New York that will add huge amounts of money to those franchises.
    “It’s hard to explain to people that, when revenue increases, payroll increases. We’ve got to keep up with that, and it’s hard to keep up with the increases created by new stadiums.”
    This is important: “At some point, Dean and his family have to make a decision: Do you try to win as it is, or find another solution?”
    That point is coming soon.
    Not hurting the cause is the recent study concluding Petco Park has been a boon to downtown redevelopment and, as expected, put millions into government coffers. You can’t say a football stadium, as is, would have the same effect, but …
    “A new stadium could be an economic driver for downtown,” says Councilman Kevin Faulconer, who represents the district. “We’ve seen that kind of growth from Petco; the entire city benefits from sales and hotel taxes that go into the General Fund.
    “And it’s going to take a project the size of something like this. A hard discussion has to occur, rightfully so.”
    I still believe a stadium with a more affordable soft, retractable roof that could attract other major sporting and convention events is the only way to go. “I’ll leave that to the experts,” Faulconer says.
    The councilman spends a lot of time downtown talking to city dwellers, and his feel is that a football stadium works for them.
    “You’d think the opposite, but my neighbors in the East Village really want to look at this,” Faulconer says. “Why would they want a new stadium? People who have invested in condominiums there know what a huge benefit a ballpark brings to downtown. But they want to make sure, as I do, that it makes economic sense.
    “Go east of Petco and there’s a lot of opportunity to develop the area. It could be a win-win for the city.”
    If it isn’t done, I fear it’s lose-lose.

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/21/downtown-or-bust-chargers-stadium/
     
  2. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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    So Nicky C, nothing new to report?

    :tdown:
     
  3. DenverBolt67

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    The UT's writers are horrible, especially their sports guys
     
  4. RM24

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    Just build this thing already!!!!!

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  5. Rainman

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    Canepa and Sullivan = Tweedle Dempster and Tweedle Dumpster. :yes:
     
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    Just when did Escondido die? With the Portland Beaver's proposed move to the Hidden Place?
     
  8. turbo_turtle

    turbo_turtle In Disguise

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    Right there is Seattle, the Qwest and Safeco fields and it looks Awesome. San Diego can do the same. We Would Have Petco Park and my pick is the Don Coryell's San Diego Stadium Side by Side. :tup: :icon_toast: :icon_banana: :icon_toast: :tup:.
     
  9. RM24

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    I wish they would honor Coach Coryell by naming the stadium after him, but Qualcomm paid for the naming rights for like forever. Maybe, Qualcomm, Coryell, Jack Murphy stadium?
     
  10. HollywoodLeo

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    Do they get naming rights to whatever stadium the Chargers get? Because I always assumed it was tied directly to the current stadium.

    Either way you know there'll be a sponsor involved.
     
  11. turbo_turtle

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    If there is the Sponsor Naming rights, I would not want these type of naming of the Stadium:

    Sorry Ladies but I do not want a Stadium to be Called the Massengill Tampax Stadium.

    BP Oil Stadium right now that would be a Nightmare for publicity.

    This Time sorry guys but I do not want a Stadium to be called the Hustlers Magazine Trojan Condom Stadium.

    I just do not like Advertisers being able to name a Stadiums.

    I do not like the name of Petco for instance because to me it should have had the name of Tony Gwynn, the Tony Gwynn Stadium or even just what a concept name it the San Diego Stadium.
     
  12. LV Bolt Fan

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    I like this one! :icon_rofl:
     
  13. turbo_turtle

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    I know it was comical. :lol:

    But I do not think people would want to attend a game at the Hustler Magazine Trojan Condom Stadium. :lol:
     
  14. LV Bolt Fan

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    If the Chargers are playing there,I'll be there! :tup:
     
  15. HollywoodLeo

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    I don't mind sponsor names of stadiums. If it gives the team more money to operate with I'm cool with it.

    Would I prefer the stadium be named after a team legend? Of course. But it's not so big of a deal with me that I'd rather they not have the extra revenue that comes with it.

    My only problem with PetCo is that the "PetCo" name is so dominant over the stadium and you don't see as much "Padres" stuff.

    That is over the top, but the name itself (at least not from a sense of it being a sponsor...) doesn't really bother me.
     
  16. turbo_turtle

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    That is primarily Why I do not like the Stadium is all you see is the PetCo name all over the place and very little of the Padres. On the other side of things the Stadium is an awesome Stadium for the Padres and very fan Friendly, Just my opinion there.

    Now for LVBoltFan. I would Still go to the Stadium Called the Hustler Magazine Trojan Condom Stadium. :yes: :tup: Especially if the Chargers would play there.
     
  17. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    It will always be the Murph to me. The only difference will be the addition of "Coryell memorial Air Field".
     
  18. HollywoodLeo

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    You don't really see "qualcomm" infested all over the Chargers stadium to that degree. Granted, it doesn't stick out as Chargers stuff either, but that has more to do with the fact that they feel the need to represent every team with those dumb flags.

    Using an out-of-SD example, Invesco Field in Denver bleeds Broncos stuff and not Invesco graffiti.

    PetCo's just done wrong in that regard. Which is kinda sad because, outside of the overwhelming corporate advertising, it's one of the most beautiful parks in baseball.
     
  19. LV Bolt Fan

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    The field is still named after Jack Murphy.
     
  20. HollywoodLeo

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    Isn't the official name "Qualcomm Stadium at Jack Murphy Field"?
     
  21. HollywoodLeo

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    Back on the subject of corporate naming, It really doesn't bother me because it's just a name.

    Eventually you get used to it. I mean, I don't think it takes away from the experience because I say i'm headed down to "the Q" for a Chargers game.

    Even PetCo, which I hated at first because it's named after a pet store, I got used to. Speaking only in regards to the name, even that doesn't bother me any more.

    It's only that they go overboard in the baseball stadium that bothers me. There needs to be a huge swinging Friar somewhere (like over the score board) and more things that say Padres.
     
  22. LV Bolt Fan

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    Other way around.
     
  23. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    I don't care what you call it, just build it.
     
  24. Buck Melanoma

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    I don't care where you build it, just make the owners' pay a bigger portion of the price tag. :yes:
     
  25. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    This as well, but I didn't want to dive into the politics of financing a stadium.
     

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