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Draft Day 2 Rounds 2-3

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by ThunderHorse17, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. Whooki Mane

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    id love to know why hes falling like this... ive watched this kid play so many times hes so talented
     
  2. The LBC

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    But what about Ricky "Ricardo" Stanzi? :roflmao:
     
  3. The LBC

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    God bless you, Reggie McKenzie!
     
  4. ThunderHorse17

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    Im baffled that he isnt gone already. I guess hes gone for sure before we pick in the 4th.

    What about Vick Ballard? He was projected to go in the third.
     
  5. ThunderHorse17

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    O damn Crhis Polk still around too.
     
  6. Whooki Mane

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    id trade our 4th and 5th to move up in the 4th and get em that would probably be enough
     
  7. ThunderHorse17

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    I would like to trade up for Lamar Miller. Would be cool to have a Jamal Charles-like RB on the team.

    Or Chris Polk. I dunno looks like there is no clear cut Sproles out there, but Miller sounds just like a JC. He isnt a track start to go with his 4.40 time is he??
     
  8. The LBC

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    Kinda hoping for Ladarius Green in the 4th. With Orson Charles on the board it's possible he slips. The "can't block" guys have typically slipped to the 4th and 5th the past couple years - Robert Housler excluded. Honestly, because of the added value they bring onto ST, carrying 4 TE's isn't as outlandish as carrying +2 or +3 over the normal large-package number.
     
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    I don't get why people are so hung up on getting "a Sproles". A pass-catching RB who can pass-block? Sure. But stop trying to find clones of guys we had, you'll just beat your heads bloody against the wall.

    Both Miller and Polk are extremely adept pass-catchers, as are Cyrus Gray and Robert Turbin. Polk needs a little work on his pass-pro, but has enough that he'd challenge Brinkley for a roster-spot outright as he's coming out of a pro-style offense (even if UW's offense was complete crap). I don't care how fast Chris Rainey is, he's got small hands and can't pass-block to save his life - that spells practice squad material. You don't see the field as a rookie or a running back if you can't pass-protect.
     
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    Painful to see Ronnie Hillman end up in Denver. :(
     
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  11. ThunderHorse17

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    Im deffinatly not opposed to bringin in another TE. Far as STs, Im all for whoever is better out there.
     
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    But I like Knowshawn too. ;/ AND while were talkin bout Backs on rivals i sure do hate Oakland takin MY boy McFadden. :cry:
     
  13. Whooki Mane

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    about Rainey you can say he has small hands all you want but doesnt mean he cant catch the football.. he can definately catch the ball prob better then both miller and polk as they played him at wr a lot during his time at florida.. as for pass protection he wouldnt really be asked to do it hes a one trick pony screen passes and off tackle runs but hes damn good at makin people miss in the open field and once he breaks free nobody is catching him
     
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    Thats why I think Miller looks like a Jamal Charles to me, which yes would be more useful to us than a Sproles 2.0 like the media would have you beleive was why we failed 2 years running.

    Also like a Jamal Charles, Lamar looks like he can contribute on STs beit returning or gunning.
     
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    Not high on Taylor, does not seen to have agile feet. Straight ahead speed, but cutting and changing directions he is not too good at.
     
  16. The LBC

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    Exactly how much professional football have you watched?

    Teams are investing $100 million contracts in their franchise QB's, they don't just let any guy on the field no matter how much of a homerun threat he is if he can't at least act as a decent speedbump to an oncoming pass-rusher bearing down on his QB. Those guys see 5-7 snaps a game MAX - and you don't spend anything greater than a 7th round pick on a guy whose going to see that few snaps - you don't... unless you want to end up wasting a pick like the Chiefs did on McCluster.

    Comparing Rainey to Sproles is laughable - sorry but it is. Rainey's a speedster with solid hands yes, but small hands also and that does have an effect when you've got a QB who can actually rifle the ball throwing to you. Rainey doesn't have anywhere near the vision that Sproles has/had. And the guy isn't even on Sproles' planet in terms of pass blocking - Sproles was a better pass-blocker than our starting RT which is both a testament to the quality of his blocking ability and how effing terrible Clary is.
     
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    If I recall those were the same negative comments being made of Ellison and, at least until he started dabbling in pharmaceutical collecting, he turned out to be a pretty solid accompaniment to Weddle.
     
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    Actually, if he's healthy and he learns a bit better patience running off-guard and off-center, I think he's got more poor man's LeSean McCoy to him than Jamaal Charles. But that's just me (and personally I prefer McCoy to Charles as an all-around back).
     
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    Last I heard on McCluster he was moved to WR and then back to RB.... IMO McCluster was a good pick considering the injury red flags. Granted they did go NUTS on return specialists in that draft gettin Jamal Charles and Eric Berry.
     
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    In the 3 cone drill at the combing the worst DB time was 7.33. Taylors was 7.32. 20 yard shuttle, 4.44, Taylor 4.37. Not good jumping either. While that does not sink him, and he is a 3rd round pick, it doesn't make me want to dance the jig either...
     
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    I still like our chances of gettin another guy to compete in camp for the spot like DeQuan Menzie. I still also like Iloka and Vanderbilts Sean Richardson as possible solid canidates to win out in camp for the job or the backup spot.
     
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    Deffinatly. I just dont kno him any better than many others, as I was pretty much ignoring RB and focusing on players at immediate need posiotns and figured if we get a RB it will be a good one.

    I would deffinatly like him even better if he turned out to be a poor mans Lesean and picks up his pass pro skills.
     
  23. The LBC

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    FWIW, he improved upon that 3-cone substantially at his pro day (6.98s) while his short shuttle remained the same - pretty good indication that he slipped (I didn't see him run) or just had a bad attempt at the combine.
     
  24. Whooki Mane

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    i watch plenty of professional football in addition to playing college football myself and a back like rainey can be an asset to a team in the 4th round... dexter mccluster you can call that a waste of a pick if you want because he hasnt lived up to where he was drafted but if we could get mccluster for our 4th round pick id do it.... and as a player im not comparing him to sproles, im saying he can fill a role on our team previously held by sproles as the "screen back" maybe give him 10 snaps a game.. throw him a screen, have him run a route out to the flat, give him a handoff see if he can pop something.. not saying hes gonna be an 1,000 yard back or anything and hes not a well rounded back but i think he can be a good receiver out of the backfield and a nice little guy norv could get creative with drawing up a few plays for
     
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    i guess where we differ in our opinion is how much a player to fill that role is worth to a team
     
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    QB Foles finally beats out Cousins
    by Kevin Noonan, CBSSports.com
    A little draft day intrigue: QB Nick Foles transferred to Arizona because he was stuck behind starter Kirk Cousins at Michigan State. Well, Foles got his revenge when he was drafted before Cousins. Foles was taken by the Eagles in the third round (No. 88 overall) and Cousins still hadn't been drafted when the third round ended late Friday night.

    LOL that is funny.

    Tho realizing philly knows more about qbs than I do, im not surprisd they went Foles over Cousins. And I guess Drew Brees 2.0 Russel Wilson is a better pick than Cousins. Myabe jus Maybe KC will get their QB after all.
     
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    Luck looks like such a goofball. Moreso in the mold of Goofy with all those teeth out there flossin on the draft stage.
     
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    My point is that people ragged on the Todman pick - not when the pick was made but rather after Todman wasn't able to see the field and make any kind of viable contribution to this team before the Vikings pilfered him off our PS. And why was it that Todman was never a gameday active and why Brinkley got that call-up over him? Because Brinkley could pass-block and Todman was still very raw in that respect.

    Rainey has next to no experience pass-blocking because Florida's offense never asked him to do it, so he's about as raw as they come. If you put Rainey on the field and teams are going to be able to practically guess the play immediately - because he sure as heck isn't going to be left back there to block. That kind of predictability is dangerous... and not in the good way for us. If Norv didn't have the confidence in Todman to put him on the field without polished pass-blocking, what makes you think he'd do that with Rainey?

    And I'll be honest, don't we already have a gadget/screen/quick-twitch guy already on this roster in Eddie Royal? And I'd wager even he pass-blocks better than Rainey.
     
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    ROFL. Scott Hanson and Kurt Warner jus thought about emulating the Ingram handshade. "...Nah not yet its only day two" LOL
     
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    Cincy did continue to do well.
     

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