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Eagles trade Bradford to Vikings...for way too damn much

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by matilack, Sep 3, 2016.

  1. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    @rapsheet Final terms: A #Vikings 1st rounder n 2017 and a 4th rounder for #Eagles QB Sam Bradford.


    Holy ****. Is this what mediocre highly injury prone QBs haul in these days? Vikings had to know they were getting jobbed in this one, pure desperation play.
     
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  2. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Desperate times call for desperate measures

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  3. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Of course they paid too much, but if they win that Super Bowl, that 1st rounder won't be worth that much anyway. ;)
     
  4. Blue Bolt

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    Vikings made bold move for plenty of reasons
    Posted by Mike Florio on September 3, 2016


    As Vikings fans and Eagles fans try to adjust to a new reality that has Sam Bradford swapping wings for horns and green for purple, folks in Minnesota are both excited but anxious about the arrival of a former No. 1 overall pick who brings a nagging sense that he’s never lived up to that status — even though he was the NFL’s offensive rookie of the year in 2010.

    So why did the Vikings make the move? For plenty of reasons.

    First, and as a source with knowledge of the team’s thinking explained it a bit less tactfully, the other options either via trade or the open market weren’t enticing. While it’s unknown whether the Vikings inquired about Josh McCown, the Browns wanted too much for the 37-year-old backup. 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick would have cost nearly $5 million more in 2016 salary, with no guarantee that his abilities would outweigh the inherent distraction he’d bring to a locker room featuring a former 49ers teammate who took loud exception to his refusal to stand for the anthem.

    The free-agent options weren’t attractive either. The Vikings never even made a call about Michael Vick, a player who once upon a time made the Minnesota defense look like the Keystone Cops.

    Second, before anyone interprets G.M. Rick Spielman’s recent remarks about Shaun Hill as the 2016 equivalent of having “no intent” to trade Percy Harvin, the Vikings have plenty of faith in Hill. But they were concerned about the ability of a 36-year-old quarterback to remain healthy for 16 games (and more, if the Vikings find their way to the postseason).

    Third, the Vikings believe they still have the ammunition to move around in the 2017 draft, possibly even back into round one. They emerged from the 2016 draft with an extra three and a four, and they still have eight picks for next year. Spielman publicly has said his goal is to get ten picks.

    Fourth, the Vikings did indeed feel compelled to have insurance for 2017, in the event Teddy Bridgewater isn’t ready to go in 2017. Yes, Adrian Peterson healed quickly from a torn ACL, but he only had a torn ACL; Bridgewater’s knee has more damage than that. Besides, other quarterbacks have never been the same after tearing knee ligaments, including Daunte Culpepper and, to date, Robert Griffin III.

    Fifth, Bradford has fully recovered from his twice-torn ACL, and the Vikings were impressed by his performances at the end of the 2015 season and throughout the 2016 preseason. For the last five games of 2015, Bradford completed 67 percent of his passes and 7.24 yards per attempt. For the last three games of the season, he threw for 361 yards, 380 yards, and 320 yards.

    In Minnesota, he likely won’t be asked to throw it quite so much, given the presence of his former Oklahoma teammate at tailback. And it’s safe to say that Mike Zimmer, Norv Turner, and Pat Shurmur (who has coached Bradford in Philadelphia and St. Louis) won’t try to cram Bradford into an offensive approach that doesn’t suit his skills and limitations.

    Zimmer lives by the notion that coaches look at their entire team, and they devise playbooks and game plans aimed at maximizing the chances of winning games. They’ll use Bradford that way, along with every other guy who steps foot on the field.

    Spielman lives by the notion that taking risks is inherent to his job. Too many General Managers don’t. Spielman always has, and more often than not it has paid off for him and the Vikings. While there’s no guarantee that Bradford will make the team as good or better than it would have been with Bridgewater, standing pat wasn’t an option — and none of the other options were appealing.
     
  5. HollywoodLeo

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    And if they miss the playoffs they look foolish.
     
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  6. Lawyers guns & money

    Lawyers guns & money BoltTalker

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    Vikes are all in for 2016. They're a playoff team with legit super bowl aspirations. Shaun Hill wasn't gonna get them there. Bradford may give them a fighting ng chance
     
  7. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

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    With Sam Bradford? Vikings have to go through Green Bay to win the NFC North. They won't do that with Sam Bradford.
     
  8. Lawyers guns & money

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    Who else? Better chance with Sam than Shaun
     
  9. Blue Bolt

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    Not as foolish as they'd be if they stood pat expecting Shaun Hill to take them to the promised land.
     
  10. HollywoodLeo

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    Given Sam Bradford's history of staying healthy they very likely traded a 1st round and 4th round pick to expect Shaun Hill to take them to the promised land.
     
  11. JohnnyX

    JohnnyX 2017 Chargers Head Coach

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    It's official Sam Bradford is now and forever the most overrated and overpaid QB of ALL Time.

    I think Bradford can get them to the NFC Championship though I have a hard time seeing him beat Seattle or Panthers in a Away series.
     
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  12. Blue Bolt

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    Only if you believe that your O-line isn't up to the task of protecting him, and you don't have an offensive system that minimizes the risk. If you have a O-line like the Bears did last year, then it would be folly. I don't believe that's the case in Minnesota though.
     
  13. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    The certainly can go through them. The Packers have shown they're capable of stumbling - and they have as good a track record of keeping an OL healthy as we do.

    Bradford gives the Vikings about the same shot at a Super Bowl as they had with Bridgewater, which is about the same shot the Chiefs have with Alex Smith. They have a shot, but I'd certainly take the field in a bet, because, by and large, last season was the exception not the rule. Very rarely do we see a team be able to ride a great defense and a mediocre QB all the way to a Lombardi; typically because at some point in the playoffs the QB has to step up and put the team on his back for a drive, a quarter, a half... whatever... in order to keep said team in the playoffs. That kind of QB isn't Alex Smith and it's not Sam Bradford.
     

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