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ESPN SAL PALANTONIO REPORTS MATT WALSH HAS THE RAMS WALKTHROUGH VIDEO - WOW

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  1. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

    IF WALSH HAS VIDEO, BELICHICK DONE FOR A YEAR

    ESPN's Sal Paolantonio reports that, if it turns out that former Patriots employee Matt Walsh has in possession video of the Rams' final walk-through practice from Super Bowl XXXVI, New England head coach Bill Belichick will be suspended.

    For a year.

    Wow.


    If Walsh has a such a tape, and if Belichick knows or suspects that he does, it could have a profound affect on Belichick as he prepares for the final act in a possible 19-0 season. We're not saying that it'll affect his coaching in any way; it might actually make him more focused and determined. But the knowledge that this game could be his last one for 19 months, and possibly his final time on the sidelines with the Patriots ever, is likely something that not even the modern-day Bud Grant would be able to conceal.

    Indeed, if Belichick knows that he's toast, he might opt to retire before "Spygate II" hits the fan. And he'll be carrying those thoughts somewhere in his brain throughout the day and night in Phoenix.

    And given that the Patriots have issued a statement calling Saturday's report from the Boston Herald "absolutely false," evidence to the contrary might compel owner Bob Kraft to fire his head coach on the heels of a fourth Super Bowl win in seven seasons.

    Though plenty of folks are questioning the timing of these new disclosures, the fact is that if there's any truth to the report and that truth comes out, the guy who'll pay the biggest price is Belichick.

    Either way, this is something that needs to be investigated quickly, so that if there's nothing to it the Pats and Belichick can have the cloud of suspicion removed.

    ....I LIKE THE BIG "IF" ESPECIALLY TODAY .... :)
     
  2. Trumpet_Man

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3227634&type=story

    Saturday, February 2, 2008
    NFL can blame itself for scandal's timing

    By Gregg Easterbrook
    Special to Page 2

    The second act of the "Spygate" scandal began late in Super Bowl week. I'd like to drop my Tuesday Morning Quarterback persona and offer some observations on why these events are happening now and what they mean.

    First, the timeline: The initial incident happened in September. After the New England Patriots were caught violating league rules by filming the New York Jets' sideline during a Week 1 game, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell stripped New England of a first-round draft choice, fined the team $250,000, fined coach Bill Belichick $500,000 and issued a harsh statement saying the Patriots' actions constituted a "calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition."

    Roger Goodell answered a lot of questions Friday that the NFL had refused to answer for months.

    Belichick responded with a brief apology that referred only to sideline taping during games. Then, the first of many strange things happened. Goodell went on national television and implied the Patriots were dragging their feet about his order to hand over other cheating materials; he threatened them with more penalties. And then, the second of many strange things happened. Four days later, the NFL announced it had destroyed all cheating materials and refused to say what had been destroyed.

    From that moment in late September until Friday, the NFL never answered the questions of exactly what the Patriots did and why the evidence was destroyed. People, including me, put these questions to NFL spokesman Greg Aiello and to Goodell, but were told the league would not reveal what was in the destroyed evidence. In December, The New York Times pressed the NFL to say what was in the destroyed materials, and again, the league refused. At his annual state of the league address Friday, Goodell made his first public comments about the destroyed evidence.

    So, if you are a New England supporter, or simply a sports fan, wondering, "Why is all this coming out right before the Super Bowl?" the answer is, "Because the NFL would not answer the questions until Goodell was in front of the media this week." Some of this information might have emerged weeks or months ago, had the NFL not acted as if there were something to hide on the tapes.

    ESPN and other outlets have been working on Spygate stories for weeks or longer, and all competing to be first with any further revelations. I can assure you there was no attempt to time this to the Super Bowl. Far from it.

    Flash back to September. After the league made its strange decision to destroy the materials, then refused to say what they contained, several media figures, including me, did this Journalism 101 exercise: Current scandal involves current taping by the Patriots. Are there any former Patriots video officials from New England's Super Bowl runs? That led to a former New England scout and video department official named Matt Walsh, who now lives in Hawaii. Simultaneously, the NFL grapevine was alive with rumors -- caution, rumors -- that the Patriots were guilty not just of taping sidelines during games but rather of much more serious transgressions. The primary rumor, which was reported Saturday by the Boston Herald, was that the Patriots secretly taped the St. Louis Rams' private walk-through before Super Bowl XXXVI, that the Pats knew some of the Rams' plays and formations in advance.

    Taping from the sidelines during games, although forbidden, is regarded as a minor violation of the rules. Secret taping of a Super Bowl opponent's practice, if true, would be much more serious.

    Throughout the fall, I, as well as other journalists, had many conversations with Walsh. He would not say he taped the Rams' walk-through, but he would not deny it, either. He would not go on the record about what he knows.

    Late in Super Bowl week, Walsh agreed with ESPN and the Times to go on the record as saying he knows damaging information about the Patriots that he will reveal if asked by the NFL. Walsh further noted that, although the NFL announced it had investigated New England's videotaping practices, the league had never spoken to him. People are right to be skeptical about Walsh's saying he knows something damning but not revealing it. Walsh says he fears legal retaliation by the Patriots because he signed a non-disclosure agreement when he left the team. He has been advised by an attorney that he will be on firmer ground if he reveals what he knows only at the request of the NFL or Congress.

    Simultaneously, the Times learned that Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania -- the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which has some jurisdiction over the NFL's precious antitrust exemption -- wants to hold hearings on why the material collected in the NFL's investigation was destroyed.

    Think Congress has no business investigating sports? Most NFL teams play in publicly subsidized stadiums, and NFL games are aired over public airwaves controlled by federal licenses. The licenses, among other things, prohibit any pre-arrangement or artifice in what is presented as live competition. If a Super Bowl were affected by cheating, that would be a legitimate matter of concern to Congress. Plus, the recent lesson learned via baseball and steroids was that Major League Baseball did not clean up its own house until Congress put some pressure on.

    At his annual Super Bowl news conference Friday, Goodell was peppered with questions about why the New England materials were destroyed. This was painful to watch; the NFL is an image-based enterprise, yet painted itself into a public relations corner by acting in a high-handed, suspicious way. If Goodell had been forthright about the tapes in the first place, perhaps no one would be spoiling the Super Bowl party.

    At the news conference, Goodell disclosed several things the NFL previously had refused to discuss. He said that only six tapes and some notes had been turned over to the league by the Patriots, not voluminous materials, as had been assumed; that the tapes all contained only in-game film of opponents' sidelines; and that the oldest tape was from the 2006 regular season, with nothing before that year. Goodell went on to say several times that attempting to steal sideline signals during games is common in football and, although not encouraged, is viewed as an occupational hazard in the sport. Goodell also asserted the Patriots' questionable activities did not alter the outcome of any game.

    Goodell's remarks were puzzling in several respects. First, if the Patriots were guilty only of occasional sideline taping, this would seem to merit a letter of reprimand. So why were the Patriots hit with the harshest fine in NFL history? When the scandal first broke, Goodell used extremely strong language about New England's sins. Now, he was implying the whole thing was no big deal.

    Next, Goodell did not clarify whether the league had asked only for sideline tapes taken during games or whether this was all the Patriots volunteered. If New England gave the league only video taken from the sidelines during games, plus notes developed from such videos, there would be no evidence of really serious cheating, such as clandestine taping of other teams' walk-throughs.

    Finally, Goodell declared that the materials the league destroyed contained no evidence of Super Bowl cheating. But the material went back only to 2006. The Patriots' Super Bowl wins came in 2002, 2004 and 2005. Of course the material contained no evidence of Super Bowl cheating! Did the league ask just for materials dating to 2006, or was that all the Patriots volunteered? Either way, it is more than curious that the league inspected one tape from this season and the rest, materials from a year when the Patriots did not appear in a Super Bowl.

    Saturday morning, the Boston Herald ran a story asserting the Patriots secretly taped the Rams' private walk-through before Super Bowl XXXVI. The Herald cited an unnamed source and did not name Walsh as the person behind the camera.........CON'T......
     
  3. Trumpet_Man

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    ............Ty Law and the Patriots defense stymied the Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI. Law's first-half interception helped the Pats beat the NFL's highest-scoring team.
    Also Saturday, Mike Fish reported on ESPN that St. Louis' walk-through was devoted to red zone plays -- all new plays and new formations the Rams had not shown during the season. Going into that Super Bowl, the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" was the league's highest-scoring team. In that game, St. Louis was held to a field goal in the first half. The Rams kept getting bogged down, as if New England knew what plays were coming. If the Patriots secretly taped the Rams' walk-through, then stopped the red zone plays the Rams showed in that walk-through, then won that Super Bowl by three points, then logic says New England materially benefited from cheating in the Super Bowl. If true, this would be the worst sports scandal since the Black Sox.

    Let's put that in capital letters: IF TRUE. We don't yet know whether the Super Bowl allegations are true. Then again, we are into only the second day of information going on the record and the league finally answering some questions about the subject.

    The Patriots, for their part, are denying the allegations.

    "The suggestion that the New England Patriots recorded the St. Louis Rams' walk-through on the day before Super Bowl XXXVI is absolutely false," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said. "Any suggestion to the contrary is untrue."

    Here's another unanswered question. If the materials the Patriots turned over and the league destroyed really were just six sideline videos and some notes, that's pretty innocuous. So why didn't the NFL reveal what was destroyed? If the materials really were minor stuff, why the months of "No comment"?

    When news of the second act of Spygate hit the sports world Friday, there was considerable backlash. Many radio and TV analysts initially reacted angrily, as if to say, "This is our private universe. In our private universe, everything is perfect. Keep reality out." But if you love athletic competition, if you want sports to be important and generate lots of money and attention, the games must be honest. Any indication of dishonesty should be deeply unsettling.

    Footnote: The Giants held a final walk-through for Super Bowl XLII on Saturday, but the Patriots did not. :icon_rofl:
     
  4. Trumpet_Man

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3228494

    Sunday, February 3, 2008
    Goodell to meet with Sen. Specter about Spygate

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    ESPN.com news services

    Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., plans to call NFL commissioner Roger Goodell promptly to discuss the Spygate controversy and suggested Sunday that Senate hearings could result from his investigation.

    On ESPN's "Outside The Lines", Specter told host Bob Ley that he will call Goodell on Monday morning, just hours after the Patriots and Giants play in Super Bowl XLII.

    "It could go to hearings," Specter said. "This is a matter to be considered by the [Senate Judiciary] Committee. I don't want to make any broad assertions or elevate it beyond what I have a factual basis for doing, We're going to follow the facts and if warranted, there could be hearings."


    Specter told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio that after hearing Goodell's depiction of why evidence provided by the Patriots was destroyed, he wanted more answers.


    "The commissioner's explanation as to why he destroyed the tapes does not ring true," Specter said.


    Shortly after Specter's comments Sunday morning, Goodell said on ESPN's "Mike and Mike in the Morning" that he would be "more than happy to meet with the senator at the earliest possible moment."

    Goodell said his plan was to head to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii after the Super Bowl in Arizona, but would adjust his plans if necessary.

    Specter wants to know if Goodell spoke to Patriots quarterback Tom Brady to determine if Brady benefited from any of the illegally gathered material.


    When asked on "OTL" if he would interview any players, Specter said it was possible, but not a certainty.


    "I'm going to take it a step at a time," he said. "... I want to see what [Goodell] has to say. But when you have an investigation that hasn't talked to this fella Matt Walsh ... and didn't go back beyond 2006, it's obviously a very incomplete investigation."



    Specter said plans to contact former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh to see what he knows about the Patriots allegedly videotaping the St. Louis Rams' Super Bowl XXXVI walk-through in 2002. The Patriots have denied they videotaped the practice.

    Goodell, who said he reserved the right to address the investigation again if new information arose, said that if Walsh "has information inconsistent with what we have, we want to talk to him."


    The commissioner said it's his responsibility to look into any rumor regarding the investigation and dismissed any talk of a cover up.


    "People are implying that this is some type of cover up," Goodell said. "... I think it's exactly the opposite. We were the ones who brought these facts out to light. We were the ones who took the unprecedented discipline to send a very strong message to people [to] don't violate the rules. And I think that's what we want. We want every team playing on a level playing field and I think that's what we have."


    After the league investigation into the original Spygate incident after New England's victory over the New York Jets in Week 1, Goodell fined Patriots coach Bill Belichick $500,000, the maximum amount, and docked the team $250,000 and a first-round draft pick. It was the biggest fine for a coach and the first time in NFL history a first-round draft pick was confiscated as a penalty.


    Mike Martz, who was St. Louis' head coach during the Super Bowl game in question, spoke to ESPN.com investigative reporter Mike Fish about the allegations.

    "I hope that is not true," Martz said. "I have great respect for Bill Belichick. It's hard to believe that is true. It's a serious allegation and I hope it is not true.

    "Obviously if there is enough substance to it the league should look into it.''

    Former Rams quarterback Kurt Warner, currently with the Arizona Cardinals, told Fish that if the league has heard those claims, he is surprised it has not spoken to Walsh. He said if Walsh or any other source has information, it should be investigated.

    Walsh has suggested to ESPN.com that he has information that could have exposed the Patriots prior to the Week 1 incident.

    "If I had a reason to want to go public, or tell a story, I could have done it before it even broke," Walsh told ESPN.com. "I could have said everything rather than having [Jets coach Eric] Mangini be the one to bring it out.

    "If they're doing a thorough investigation -- they didn't contact me. So draw your own conclusions. Maybe they felt they didn't need to. Maybe the league feels they got satisfactory answers from everything the Patriots sent them."

    Told of the newest allegation, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told The Associated Press on Saturday:

    "We were aware of the rumor months ago and looked into it. There was no evidence of it on the tapes or in the notes produced by the Patriots, and the Patriots told us it was not true."

    Patriots media relations official Stacey James reiterated that sentiment.

    "The suggestion that the New England Patriots recorded the St. Louis Rams' walk-through on the day before Super Bowl XXXVI is absolutely false," James said. "Any suggestion to the contrary is untrue."

    Rams spokesman Rick Smith, reading a statement from team president John Shaw, said, "At this point, we have no comment."

    On Friday, Specter said he had written Goodell seeking an explanation as to why evidence in the NFL's investigation of the Patriots videotaping was destroyed.

    "I am very concerned about the underlying facts on the taping, the reasons for the judgment on the limited penalties and, most of all, on the inexplicable destruction of the tapes," Specter wrote.

    Specter, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the matter could put the league's antitrust exemption at risk. In a phone interview with The New York Times, which first reported Specter's interest in the matter, he said the committee at some point will call Goodell to address the antitrust exemption as well as the destruction of the tapes.

    Goodell, in his previously scheduled news conference Friday from Phoenix, said, "There are very good explanations why the tapes were destroyed by our staff -- there was no purpose for them."

    There were six tapes, according to Goodell -- some from the 2007 preseason and the rest from 2006. He said he had them destroyed because he was confident the Patriots had turned over all of the tapes and notes the NFL had requested in its investigation. He also said they were destroyed in order to prevent leaks to the media -- as some footage from one of the tapes was leaked shortly after the story broke.

    "We wanted to take and destroy that information," Goodell said. "They may have collected it within the rules, but we couldn't determine that. So we felt that it should be destroyed."

    Belichick had little to add on the subject.

    "It's a league matter," he said Friday during his news conference. "I don't know anything about it."
     
  5. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    POSTED 1:49 p.m. EST, February 3, 2008

    WORST SCANDAL SINCE THE BLACK SOX?

    Most Patriots fans dismiss the opinions of ESPN.com's Gregg Easterbrook regarding "Spygate I" and/or "Spygate II" (which is the first sequel that actually was a prequel). And, at times, we've disagreed with the zeal he has displayed in criticizing the Patriots' actual and suspected cheating and the league's handling of the situation.

    But Easterbook's latest column regarding the allegation that the Patriots videotaped the Rams' final walk-through practice prior to Super Bowl XXXVI is the best analysis of the situation that we've seen.

    If the new allegations are true, Easterbrook thinks it will be the biggest sports scandal since the Black Sox incident in baseball. We hadn't thought about where this one would rank in the history of pro sports (even though we've been aware of the rumor since the days after Spygate first broke), but we think that we agree with Easterbrook's assessment.

    Which scandal would be bigger? Maybe Pete Rose betting on baseball. Maybe steroids, which is actually more of a generational problem than a one-time incident.

    As football goes, it would be the most embarrassing moment in league history, if it's proven that the Rams' practice was videotaped. And we really don't care if others have done it. We're sure that there are plenty of other dirty things that have happened in sports about which the general public isn't aware. Should that make evidence of secret taping of an opponent's practice any less shocking?

    And while many are suggesting that this latest mess is all the fault of Arlen Specter, the Senior Senator from Pennsylvania's huffing and puffing merely coincided with the far more significant revelations contained in the New York Times item from Friday that brought Spygate back to the front burner. Regardless of whether Specter opted to grandstand in the days preceding the Super Bowl, the Matt Walsh story eventually was going to surface. Tthe Times merely opted to use what it could from Walsh on the same day, possibly because the Times feared that the Specter story might prompt other media outlets to introduce the world to Walsh, even if Walsh still really hasn't said anything on the record.

    So Specter's power play apparently prompted the Times to go with what it could on Walsh, which has in turn caused all hell to break loose, which will give Specter more ammunition for his quest to hold hearings on the Patriots' practices.

    Regardless of how or when we've gotten to this point, it was inevitable that Walsh was eventually going to talk. As we've said several times now, the only way to put this thing to rest is to provide Walsh with a forum in which he can say what he knows (or what he thinks he knows) and so he can be questioned fully and fairly by all interested parties.
     
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    SEN ARLAND SPECTER will be talking to Matt Walsh tomorrow and will be calling Lord Goodell Monday morning.

    The **** storm has begun.

    I love it.

    Relish in these days for the cheaters and frauds of this world and trash mentalities are being summarily exposed.

    Right effing on. :icon_toast:
     
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    Uh-oh! :fan:
     
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    <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IHeI4TRoKvo&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IHeI4TRoKvo&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

    THE END IS NEAR
     
  9. Chuck F.

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    Just as long as the end comes AFTER Elisha gets his *** kicked today.:lol:
     
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    Doesn't matter, what's done is done, IF this turns out to be true, then Belichik loses his job and his coaching days are over.
    Most will then see this as making the Chargers job allot easier next year.
    Personally, I'd prefer this not be true, I'd just as soon our team have to work to be the best...plus, I'm not the type to be jealous of others.
    One way or the other, justice will be served...as long as it's correct, I don't care which way it goes.
     
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    This stuff might be useful if we played NFL football like Croquet and walked from yard to yard. Of course, perhaps the NFL is EXTREME CROQUET. Like maybe you can whack you opponent with one of the mallets.
     
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    IF walsh does have a video of the rams super bowl walk through that should be proof enough to hang bellycheat.

    I hope walsh has got prints of the original that he's given to spector and some news people that are somewhat honest.. CAuse if he gives this to the nfl I'm guessing it might just disappear or get destroyed like the rest of the tapes the nfl destroyed.

    it kind of looks like the nfl wants to cover this up. Thats a big question in itself.
     
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    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    If the Patriots actually had walkthrough tape of the Rams then they should be stripped of their super bowl win and it should be given to the Rams.


    And screw suspending Bellichek for a year he should be suspended forever!
     
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    to think Belicheat cares about anything other than winning at all cost, would be naive... the dude is arrogant, and coulld care less what others think... he IS above the law... (just ask ESPN) :tdown:
     
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    This was a thought I also had...but I don't really know if this would be the right thing to do...after all, this isn't the NCAA
    Then again, something like the last walkthrough would be a huge advantage going into a game, and the winning team shouldn't be allowed to stand...fact is, even if the win were stripped from the Pat's, do you seriously think the Rams would take that gift?
     
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    Is that a gift or something that was theres but was stolen from them? And by all account the final walkthrough had all the Rams new plays they were going to use in the redzone. I do remember how weird it was that the most potent offense in the league was held so in check by a not-so-good patriots defense.
     
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    Interesting that Parcell's has been noticably silent through all this. It might be that Belicheat learned his tactics from his former Master, and the NFL doesn't want to see how deep the wormhole goes. Just a thought...

    Also what I find interesting is how very average BB was before he took the NE job where all these transgretions supposedly occurred. Coincidence? Doesn't sound like it...
     
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    He must not have been able to steal a copy of the Giants' practices :lol:
     
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    First off, nice video link Trumpie.

    Second, I really do think things are coming full circle for the Patriots. I do think it's unfortunate for all the innocent "average" players who were on those teams.
     
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    I think things are coming full circle for the NFL as well. :yes:

    In retrospect, Lord Goodell did what he thought was in the best interests of the league and that was to make this go away as quietly as possible so in that respect, he can not be faulted.

    The investigations should have included at a minimum, the Patriots employees by NFL Security. It is not clear to what degree if any was done in this area.

    Apparently, we have some ex-employees who either have an axe to grind (sour grapes) or someone is sitting on a powder keg. Matt Walsh was not the only Pats video employee and this is not really being broached and it should be.

    Anyway, once Congress starts waving the anti-trust exemption as a tool to bash the league over the head, Goodell either shits gold or he ends up being another Bud Selig (a joke).

    Also looming is the threat of a strike in the middle of this season.

    If the Patriots are guilty (more so than reported), the coach should be barred from the league and the owner forced to sell the team. I hardly doubt the other owners with egos the size of Mt. Olympus will tolerate being to made look like fools on their own quests for the hardware and seeing Kraft still sitting on his throne.
     
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    Chargers-Superhero Just win the Damn SB !!!

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    This team, and franchise is going down, wait and see.

    :tup:
     
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    Karma? :yes:

    Belichick pulls a Marty?

    Last year in the playoffs against the Patriots, Schottenheimer went for it on 4th-and-11 in the first quarter instead of sending Nate Kaeding out for a 47-yarder on a sunny day in San Diego.

    In the third quarter on today, Belichick went for it on 4th-and-13 instead of sending out Stephen Gostkowski for an indoor 48-yarder.

    Marty lost his job...........next ....... ?
     
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    At least Marty had the excuse of poor weather conditions in our game.

    However, Gostkowski has routinely made 50 yarders, especially in a dome. So, yeah, I had WTF moment when I heard he eschewed the FG for a 4th down endzone pass.
     
  24. nickelbolt

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    Fukking arrogance... that's why he opted for the pass play vs the field goal. This is the most arrogant team in NFL history and maybe it comes from head coach? :icon_shrug::icon_rofl:
     
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    What sucks about all this is I think without taking the easy way out and cheating, Bilicheat would have proven to a very good coach when players supported him and bought into his system.

    He took the easy way out and will always be tarnished now. If he ever gets voted into the HOF, it will be a dark day for the NFL.

    As far as the tape, it is worthless unless they can determine the Pats had it before the Rams/Pats SuperBowl. Otherwise, it is a so what situation.

    It is amazing how 'normal' the Pats looked last night. I kept thinking that the Chargers would be blowing them out of the water. Maybe that is just the homer in me, but they did not look too good last night IMO.
     
  26. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Weather Conditions???? HUH???
     
  27. WonderSlug

    WonderSlug Well-Known Member

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    On that 4th-and-11, Marty asked Nate about making the FG, and Nate responded he wasn't sure he'd make a long one in that area because of the swirling winds.

    So Marty, faced with an unsure kicker, had to either punt or go for it.


    No such "swirling winds" yesterday in the dome.
     
  28. WeStrikeSunday

    WeStrikeSunday BoltTalker

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    That was some enjoyable music.... Justice will be served!
     
  29. chargerlipz

    chargerlipz Leading the league in nose hairs.

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    Sorry Trumpie, I couldn't finish reading the article. It was so long my nose started to bleed. Dude, keep them shorter for us lobotomy patients, okay?
     

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