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Father Time catching up to TE Gates?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Concudan, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

    San Diego star tight end Antonio Gates turned 33 this week.

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    Let’s face it, 33 is starting to reach graybeard status for NFL skill-position players.

    It is reasonable to think Gates’ better days are behind him, in large part because of injuries. He has been beaten up over the past five years and his numbers have taken a dip.

    He did play 15 games last season, his most since 2009, but his stats slid nevertheless. His 49 catches and 538 yards were his lowest totals since 2003, his rookie season.

    Historically, there haven’t been many great statistical seasons by tight ends 33 or older. According to ESPN Stats & Information, only five times has a tight end over age 33 caught at least 70 passes. Tony Gonzalez, the greatest tight end of all time, has done it the past four seasons.

    The only time a tight end has gone over the 1,000–yard receiving mark beyond age 33 was 1965, when Pete Retzlaff had 1,190 receiving yards at age 34.

    Gates’ last 1,000-yard receiving season came in 2009. While he can still be an impact player, history says Gates' days as a dominant player may be behind him.

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  2. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Age is a contributing factor to his sliding stats. However, play at QB and OL (cough, cough, AJ you jerk) played a significant role in that as well. You look at him on 3rd down and he still got double covered if not triple covered. If he can stay healthy, I think he is still a valuable if not reduced role position player. I think he is still our best blocking tight end, at least he was last season.
     
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  3. CoronaDoug

    CoronaDoug Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget the Gates annual sore toe.
     
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    Gate's dropping numbers weren't due to diminishing skills, but to injuries and a deteriorating offensive line. All the talk this year has been that Gates looks fit and mobile out on the practice field. Give Rivers some decent protection, and Gates can still put up good numbers.
     
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  5. HEXEDBOLT

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    Gates is a long way from the glue factory and the defense still has to commit at least two escorts or be burned.
     
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  6. Fossil

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    It looked to me like Gates wasn't able to extend his arms overhead very well. Maybe played through an injury?
     
  7. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    No! That is Ingram who has T-Rex arms... Man you need to take notes! ;)
     
  8. ChargerRay

    ChargerRay Producer/Host of BoltTalk Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Agree. I'm expecting a very productive year from Gatesy.
     
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  9. matilack

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    Me to, but also I am really interested to see LaDarius Green develop. He can be one of those freakish Jimmy Graham type guys, it's just going to depend on if he has the football mentality.
     
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  10. Scott Kirby

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    LOOK AT the difference in body types between Gates and Tony G. Tony is long and lean and Antonio looks porky and portly. He always has but you can get away with being a semi "doughy" NFL player at 27 where you can't at 33. Gates MIGHT (read MIGHT) do better now that the O Line has improved (hopefully) a little bit but for sure his best days ARE behind him.
     
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    I'm VERY eager to see what Ladarius Green can do. Now he HAS a more Tony Gonzales body type. And if not now when. Its time to see slowly but surely this year what he's got. I like the guy and thought he was a good pick. LETS USE HIM.
     
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    This idea that Gates is fat makes me laugh. He's not doughy or overweight, not by a long shot.

    He's not a spring chicken but he's still incredibly valuable and useful to the organization. He still requires double (sometimes triple) coverage, which benefits the offense as a whole. A better Oline will make the entire offense better, including Gates. There's not "might" about it.
     
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  13. AnteaterCharger

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    Let's see what happens but the team is definitely taking the right approach by drafting Green and by bringing in players like Dallas Walker and Ben Cotton. The team has some interesting young talent but its doubtful any will be quite as impactful as Gates. Still the team has some potential options if Gates truly is on the downward spiral.
     
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    1965 They only played 14 games a year back then. Not to take any thing away from Tony Gonzalez, I just wish Gates would take after him more.
     
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    I can't see your image... so I'm not sure how to rate your post ;)
     
  17. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    Lets just pretend I posted something really really funny. :tup:
     
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  18. Lightning's Girl

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    Nowhere else but in the NFL, or perhaps Hollyweird, can a 33-year-old be considered a geriatric, LOL!! Gates was born the year I was married, for Pete's sake....talk about OLD..:eek:
     
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  19. Sydalish

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    Ok then. Hahahaha!

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