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Garcon chose RG3 over Rivers....or Shanny over Norv?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by matilack, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Jason La Canfora
    Garcon chose ‘Skins, RG3 over Chargers
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    By Jason La Canfora |
    Published: March 14th, 2012 | Tags: 2012 free agency, Pierre Garcon, Robert Griffin III, San Diego Chargers, Washington Redskins
    The Redskins can thank Robert Griffin III for allowing them to land Pierre Garcon.
    Though Washington was the early favorite to acquire the former Colts receiver, the Chargers came in late with an offer that matched the Redskins. If Garcon had not valued the potential of catching passes from RG3, he likely would’ve taken that cross-country flight to sign with San Diego.
    The Redskins have now provided weapons for Griffin in Garcon and Josh Morgan, and they continue to be in the hunt to land the services of Eddie Royal, who they also value for his return skills.
    The end result could be a receiving corps that tallies nearly $20 million in cap space. This means cuts should follow, with Jabar Gaffney, Santonio Moss and even tight end Chris Cooley all candidates to be shown the door.
     
  2. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    There is no logic behind this thinking.

    I think the real reason is he chose stability over incompetance.
     
  3. SuperCharger92

    SuperCharger92 Winners Win

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    I would take Jabar Gaffney and Santana Moss here, either one, right price-one year deals..
     
  4. SDRaiderH8er

    SDRaiderH8er Well-Known Member

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    it all starts from the top! We are not going to get any big name FA's because of the Front Office.
     
  5. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Because buffalo is THAT much more stable?

    No offense but extreme BS - Garcon went to Washington because they gave an inconsistent #2 the type of money a #1 gets. Simple as that. He can dress it up however he wants but Garcon never deserved that much money for his time in Indy
     
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  6. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Washington has hired the right people lately, as long as Dan Snyder stays out of it they'll be headed upward soon.

    We however, are a bad season away from cleaning house.
     
  7. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    they're definitely making progress, I'm not knocking Washington as a team or an organization. I'm just saying that giving alot of credence to statements like the one mentioned by Garcon are BS at best and outright lying at worst. Garcon would never have gotten that much money elsewhere, he was vastly overpaid. Jackson can talk about the benefits of tampa all he wants but Freeman is absolutely not as good as Rivers, and Tampa is not as good as the Chargers even with their recent additions. Jackson outright said (and I give him credit for honesty) that the money is what brought him to Tampa.
     
  8. Moses

    Moses Can You Stand The Rain?

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    Good, because I prefer Meachem anyway. And Garcon got too much money if you ask me.

    I'd be quite content with adding 1 more low-profile / veteran / under-the-radar WR and rolling with a group of Gates, Floyd, Meachem and Brown plus 1 more. That's a decent group with a great mixture of skill-sets. Guys like Doucet, Edwards, Schilens, or even that dirty Steeler Hines Ward would all be suitable pickups IMO
     
  9. Brundlefly

    Brundlefly Well-Known Member

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    I don't want Hines Ward anywhere near a Chargers uniform
     
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  10. rickochey

    rickochey BoltTalker

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    I thought we were doing that over that past 6 years.
     
  11. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    He went to Washington first and chose to sign with Washington for one simple reason... green. There will be folks quick to defend Garcon for having put up 1000 yards last season in spite of having Kerry Collins and Curtis Painter throwing him the ball. But take a close look at those stats - the vast majority of his production came in the later 1/3 of games when his team was trailing by more than 10 points (we call that Garbage Time, 'round here). Then look even further, Garcon has a CAREER catch percentage of just barely over 50%... so he's literally dropping nearly 1 of every 2 passes dropped to him. He's a total feast or famine player who can make all the spectacle catches but failed to consistently bring in the easy stuff that a high school WR should be able to field. I have a feeling that Garcon knew that he wasn't going to see NEAR that kind of cheddar from Dean and AJ that Danny Snyder dangled in front of him (and Garcon was reported asking for $8 million per year average from the outset).
     
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    Isn't it reported Chargers offered him the same amount of money? Regardless, doesn't that mean if he signed with SD he'd be an overpaid, inconsistent #2? This team is at a point where we consider it fortunate a player decides to take equal pay with a another team.

    I see a no win situation and no reason why SD should be involved in this in the first place.
     
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    Brandon Lloyd?
     
  14. reddenedbeard

    reddenedbeard Well-Known Member

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    Snyder is stable!?
     
  15. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    By stability I mean the potential for front office firings.

    Snyder is an idiot, but Shanny and Bruce Allen are more secure than AJ and Norv.
     
  16. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    But are they?....... if this trade doesn't work out, they are history. Synder has an itchy trigger finger....... Spanos doesn't.
     
  17. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Did you really just use "stability" in reference to Dan Snyder and the Redskins? :roflmao::roflmao:
     
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  18. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Ironic I know. But I'd rather have Shanarat and Allen over Norv and AJ any day.
     
  19. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't really make their organization stable. You don't think Shanarat will be on Snyder's hot seat if RGIII flops?

    Hell, the impulse hire of Shanarat is a shining example of Washington's instability.
     
  20. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Of course he will if RG3 flops, thats just the way of the NFL, but that doesn't mean Shanarat isn't a better coach.

    The Redskins are headed in the right direction, we are headed in the wrong one, at the moment the Redskins (and yes we should be embarrassed) are a more stable situation than the Chargers.
     
  21. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Shanarat being a better coach than Norv doesn't make the Redskins a more stable organization.
     

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