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Giants face Chargers in Super Bowl seting

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -Having been to the playoffs the past four years, the New York Giants have rarely referred to a game as must-win unless it was in the postseason.

    Things have changed dramatically with three straight losses, and more than one Giant is putting Sunday's game with the San Diego Chargers into the better-not-lose category.

    Forget that the contest will mark the first time Eli Manning and Philip Rivers face each other since the draft-day trade in which the Giants obtained the No. 1 overall pick from the Chargers for the rights to Rivers, who was the No. 4 pick, and three other draft choices, including one which turned out to be linebacker Shawne Merriman.

    Middle linebacker Antonio Pierce went so far as to proclaim this another Super Bowl for the Giants (5-3), who have fallen behind Philadelphia and Dallas in the NFC East.

    It's just as important for the Chargers (4-3), who trail the Denver Broncos by two games in the AFC West.

    "I don't ever remember losing three games in a row," Giants running back Brandon Jacobs said. "So a lot of guys around here realize that in five years they have never really been part of losing three games in a row and we have to do something about it. And a lot of guys are willing to step up and go out and make plays."

    Actually, the Giants lost four in a row in 2006, when they managed to make the playoffs despite an 8-8 record.

    The Chargers are very similar to the Giants in that most of their wins have been against the NFL's weaker teams (Kansas City, Oakland twice and Miami), while their losses have been to Denver, Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

    "It'll be a heck of a challenge," said running back LaDainian Tomlinson, who scored three touchdowns when the Drew Brees-led Chargers beat Manning and the Giants in their last meeting in 2005.

    "These guys are Super Bowl champs from a couple years ago. I think it's a different type of team," Tomlinson said. "This is a team that can run the ball effectively, they can throw the ball. Defensive-wise, they get after the quarterback. They can stop the run. And playing at their house, losing three straight, it's going to be a tough game."

    The key might be the big play. The Chargers have 18 passing plays of 25 yards or more this season, tied for the third in the NFL. The Giants, who have given up at least 40 points in two of their three losses, have surrendered 15 pass plays of 20 yards or more in their losing streak.

    "I think everybody in the building recognizes where we are and how we need to respond," Giants defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan said.

    The fun part of the game will be watching Manning and Rivers, who have both become outstanding quarterbacks. The difference is Manning led the Giants to a Super Bowl win over New England in 2008. Coincidentally, the Patriots beat Rivers and the Chargers in the AFC title game to earn the trip to Arizona.

    Manning, who has thrown six interceptions in the losing streak, downplayed the head-to-head matchup with Rivers.

    "This is the Giants versus San Diego," Manning said. "It is about us getting back on track and getting that winning feeling again. I think that is my only concern. I think that is kind of in the past."

    Rivers also was indifferent about facing New York. He said he never talked to any Giants front office personnel after they drafted him and he had no hard feeling in the wake of the trade.

    "Again, I know it wasn't just a straight trade me for Eli or vice versa," Rivers said. "There were some very key picks and players involved in what the Chargers were able to acquire and, honestly, players that have had a huge impact over this past six years and continue to have. So I'm sure both teams are happy the way it worked out."

    If the Giants have an advantage it should be their running game against the Chargers' defense, which is giving up 132.1 yards per game. New York plays its best when the running game allows Manning to pick when he throws.

    Giants safety C.C. Brown has struggled since taking over for Kenny Phillips (IR) and Rivers will likely target him in New York's final game before a bye week.
    Tomlinson said road games against NFC East teams can be tough.

    "We just kind of expect when you go play physical teams like these, with the big crowds, fans are really into the game, it becomes a tough place to play," he said. "It's somewhere that we're really not used to. It's different from Kansas City and Oakland and Denver. It's a little bit more."

    For the Giants, this game has also come to mean a little bit more.

    "Guys are running around, flying around, making a lot of noise," Jacobs said of recent practices. "Everyone has been that guy this week to get on someone else when they are not doing it right, make them do it the right way. I said on Wednesday morning that I was going to be that guy to come in here and jump on people's backs when it doesn't look like they are working hard. And about 40 other guys had the same mentality."

    Chargers linebacker Shaun Phillips isn't concerned how the Giants feel.

    "We can't look at that, the Giants lost three in a row," he said. "I mean, they're still a good football team, and they're one of the better teams in the league. So, them losing three straight has nothing to do with us. But we can't control what they do. We can control what we do. As long as we continue to have that mentality, I believe we'll be OK."
     
  2. Zeus

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    So if the Chargers lose we still have an entire season.

    If the Giants lose it will be like losing a SB and they will fall into a pit?

    Half of the Giants know it won't be over. The others will be trying too hard. I don't know if saying this is a must not lose game will suddenly make them win.

    They make it sound like if they lose this game the season is over. Good luck to the Chargers and I hope we pound them.
     

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