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Grading the Draft

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  1. Concudan

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    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9501382/Grading-every-team's-NFL-Draft

    Arizona

    After making it to their first Super Bowl, the Cardinals were in an unfamiliar position at the bottom of the first and second round. They came away with Ohio State running back Chris "Beanie" Wells and UConn linebacker Cody Brown. Wells, a powerful inside runner, has a chance to be the featured back next season because Tim Hightower is more of a third-down player.

    The Cardinals rejected several low offers (no first-round picks) for unhappy receiver Anquan Boldin. Alabama safety Rashad Johnson plays a great center field and has a nose for the ball; he's a playmaker. Cornerback Gregory Toler flunked out of high school, but found a home at St. Pauls College, a small school in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. Toler is a boom-or-bust selection. LSU offensive lineman Herman Johnson once weighed in at 390 pounds and he probably will be used at guard.
    Grade: B

    Atlanta

    The Falcons focused on defense with their first two picks. Ole Miss defensive tackle Peria Jerry fits perfectly into Mike Smith's four-man line because he can rush the passer. Missouri strong safety William Moore was slowed by injuries last season, but when healthy he has the range and physicality to be a punishing tackler.

    But the key to general manager Tom Dimitroff's second draft with the Falcons was the trade for Kansas City tight end Tony Gonzalez, a big-time performer who will be a huge third-down receiver for Matt Ryan. None of the team's first four picks has any character flaws. Furman cornerback William Middleton was his team's MVP, but many scouts believe he's too stiff to be an NFL starter.
    Grade: B+
     
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    Baltimore

    GM Ozzie Newsome made a bold move to trade up and select Ole Miss offensive tackle Michael Oher at No. 23. Oher was rated in the top 12 on most teams' draft boards and was considered the smartest player at his position.

    Utah's Paul Kruger reminds me of Jared Allen, a high-motor pass rusher who seems to fit Baltimore's defensive scheme. Texas Christian University inside linebacker Jason Phillips will be given a shot to replace the departed Bart Scott.
    Grade: B-

    Buffalo

    The Bills are being praised for addressing most of their needs except for offensive tackle while getting value with their first five selections. Pass rusher Aaron Maybin was the 20th Penn State player taken by the Bills and he has a great first step off the ball. Louisville center Eric Wood will work at guard with the offseason signing of Geoff Hangartner from Carolina.

    Oregon State guard Andrew Levitre is one mean son of a gun and had an awesome game against USC. Cornerback Jairus Byrd has a chance to be the nickel back. Coach Dick Jauron is hoping holdover Brad Butler can slide from guard to tackle. Southern Miss tight end Shawn Nelson has a chance to stick; he's a big target.
    Grade: B
     
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    Carolina

    A name you can't forget: South Carolina CB Captain Munnerlyn. (Grant Halverson / Getty Images)

    For the second consecutive year, GM Marty Hurney copied former mentor Bobby Beathard's strategy of trading away next year's first-round pick in order to draft a quality player. Hurney grabbed San Francisco's second-round pick in order to draft Florida State pass rusher Everette Brown, who was rated a first-round talent by some teams. Brown is undersized.

    I really like the fourth-round pick of Syracuse fullback Tony Fiammetta, who is a bruising blocker and fits what the Panthers love to do. In the late rounds, Oklahoma guard Duke Robinson cruised during the college season but has a chance to be a better pro. You have to like this name, Captain Munnerlyn, a cornerback from South Carolina. The Captain plays bigger than his 5-9, 188-pound size and has some return skills.
    Grade: B-

    Chicago

    GM Jerry Angelo took the draft's first day off, but that's because he made his major move weeks ago when trading for Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, a proven performer. Based on his recent results, Angelo's trade for Cutler was undoubtedly better than any players he could have taken in the draft. If Cutler leads the Bears to the playoffs, this draft was a total success.

    Oklahoma receiver Juaquin Iglesais was a solid pickup with the 99th overall selection. Some teams rated him in the second round. Vanderbilt cornerback D.J. Moore is a very tough player despite his 5-9 frame. But the steal for the Bears could be San Jose State defensive end Jarron Gilbert, who was known for his You Tube video of being able to jump out of a swimming pool.
    Grade: B-

    Cincinnati

    This has a chance to be one of the best drafts in Bengals history, especially if Alabama offensive tackle Andre Smith and USC middle linebacker Rey Maualuga develop into All-Pro performers. Both have the ability to be great NFL players. Maualuga slid into the second round because of off-the-field issues, plus the fact that he didn't call the defense at USC despite being a middle linebacker. But Maualuga is an upbeat, physical player who can lead in the locker room. Smith's bad body got him in trouble with some teams, but he weighed in at 333 pounds this week, plus Alabama head coach Nick Saban totally supported his status as a high pick.

    Missouri TE Chase Coffman, 6-5, broke his foot in the Alamo Bowl game vs. Northwestern, but he has a pro pedigree, being the son of former Packers tight end Paul Coffman. Georgia Tech pass rusher Michael Johnson has great physical skills although many scouts thought he took many plays off on Saturdays. A local kid, Cincinnati punter Kevin Huber, won the Ray Guy Award as the nation's best punter last season.
    Grade: A

    Cleveland

    There's a good chance that Eric Mangini's former employer, the Jets, picked the Browns' pocket. Cleveland didn't get enough value for the fifth overall spot in the first round from the Jets, unless you really love Jets safety Abram Elam, DE Kenyon Coleman and third-string QB Brett Ratliff. Well, Mangini does love those players and that's why he pulled the trigger on the draft's biggest trade. The Rams may not be the best judge, but they passed on these same players.

    Cal center Alex Mack should eventually be a starter and the fans had to love Buckeyes WR Brian Robiskie in the second round. Hawaii's David Veikune is a project at outside linebacker, but he does have power and good hands.
    Grade: C
     
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    Dallas

    The Cowboys used their first pick to acquire Lions receiver Roy Williams and then proceeded to trade out of the second round, too. Western Illinois linebacker Jason Williams should give them speed off the edge. Texas A&M quarterback Stephen McGee was a very good selection at the top of the fourth round. Remember, McGee ran 4.66 in the 40-yard dash. McGee is in a good situation. He's a great worker and has solid pocket sense, but is missing that big-time NFL arm strength.

    The Cowboys focused on defense with their picks and then used the 172nd pick on USC kicker David Buehler, who had better 40-yard times than teammate Rey Maualuga. But does Buehler beat out Nick Folk? TCU strong safety Stephen Hodge fills a need, but Cincinnati's Mike Mickens was viewed as a third-round talent until needing cartilage and meniscus knee surgery after playing 46 games. Good value in the seventh round.
    Grade: C

    Denver

    The Broncos filled some needs and found some parts, but the bottom line is that they are without quarterback Jay Cutler now, and they definitely didn't replace him. Georgia running back Knowshon Moreno was a no-brainer with the first choice, especially since San Diego coveted him. Tennessee defensive end Robert Ayers has the look of a Justin Tuck type; able to rush from an inside position or from the edge.

    In the second round, new Broncos GM Brian Xanders went for secondary performers in Wake Forest CB Alphonso Smith, who has a chance to start, and Texas Tech safety Darcel McBath. South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier called Kenny McKinley the best receiver he's ever coached. McKinley started 33 consecutive games and finished with 207 receptions. He could be a steal. The Broncos are still talking about trading productive tight end Tony Scheffler, and that could be a mistake. Fresno State quarterback Tom Brandstater has an NFL arm and was a very interesting pick at No. 174.
    Grade: B

    Detroit

    OK, the fans booed the selection of Georgia QB Matthew Stafford, but the Lions loved his workouts and his big-league arm. Stafford does have some physical downside (poor footwork in the pocket), but the Lions are never going to win without a franchise quarterback. Yes, the Lions wanted to trade out of this pick, but there were no takers because of the guaranteed money ($41.7 million) involved with such a decision. The coaching staff wanted Stafford and that's good enough for me.

    While the fans were still moaning about passing on defensive players, the Lions took the draft's best tight end in Oklahoma State's Brandon Pettigrew at No. 20. He is a solid blocker. Western Michigan safety Louis Delmas was projected as the draft's top safety and he's a very aggressive tackler. I really liked the selection of Penn State receiver Derrick Williams, who can also help the kick return game. Williams was the high school player of the year in 2004.Cal linebacker Zack Follett and Nebraska offensive tackle Lydon Murtha both had super value in the seventh round.
    Grade: A
     
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    Green Bay

    The Packers are coming off a disappointing 6-10 season in which their rush defense ranked 26th in the NFL. Dom Capers is installing his 3-4 defense and GM Ted Thompson went for Boston College nose tackle B.J. Raji with his first pick — he's a quicker Gilbert Brown — and then made a big trade in order to draft USC outside linebacker Clay Matthews. With their holdovers and if both of these rookies produce as expected, the Packers' front seven should be solid this season.

    LSU fullback Quinn Johnson is a converted former linebacker who isn't a bad lead blocker. Late picks such as Cincinnati cornerback Brandon Underwood and Colorado linebacker Brad Jones don't figure to make the final roster.
    Grade: C

    Houston

    Rice tight end James Casey is a former baseball player. (Scott Boehm / Getty Images)

    Several teams told me that the Texans picked some very athletic players, starting with USC outside linebacker Brian Cushing. Cincinnati defensive end Connor Barwin is a converted tight end who led the Big East with 11 sacks in his senior season. Barwin sounds like the next Mike Vrabel. Alabama's Antoine Caldwell started 34 of his 48 career games at center. He's a great long snapper and can also play guard.

    New Mexico cornerback Glover Quin had a record 40 3/4-inch vertical jump while also squatting 500 pounds; he may be the strongest athlete at the position. Quin could end up being a free safety. Anthony Hill is a blocking tight end from North Carolina State, while everyone will be curious about Rice's James Casey, who had 111 receptions last season. Casey is a former baseball player who is a very special athlete.
    Grade: A

    Indianapolis

    It is difficult to always connect at the bottom of the round, but the Colts grabbed two quality performers in the first and second round. UConn running back Donald Brown has great vision and gives the team a big-time back when Joseph Addai needs a rest. The Colts averaged a woeful 3.4 yards per carry last season.

    USC defensive tackle Fili Moala was once projected as a first-round talent. Moala, who was selected 56th overall, didn't make a lot of plays last season for the Trojans, but he fits the mold of an Indy inside defender. Purdue QB Curtis Painter was grabbed in the sixth round. Auburn CB Jerraud Powers ran a 4.54 40-yard dash on a bad foot at the Combine.
    Grade: B-

    Jacksonville

    The Jaguars did the smart thing by spending their first two picks on offensive linemen; both of them have a chance to be tackles. Virginia's Eugene Monroe was a no-brainer with the eighth overall pick, while the Jaguars were fortunate to get Arizona's Eben Britton in the second round after many mock drafts put him at the bottom of the first round.

    In the third round, the Jaguars went for defense in Temple DT Terrance Knighton and William & Mary cornerback Derek Cox, who blew scouts away with a 4.39 40-yard dash and 37-inch vertical jump. The quality pick, though, looks like Arizona receiver Mike Thomas, who had a Pac-10-record 259 career receptions, including 23 for touchdowns.
    Grade: B+

    Kansas City

    First-year Chiefs GM Scott Pioli didn't fool anyone with his choice of LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson, who figures to be a starter opposite former Tiger teammate Glenn Dorsey. Jackson also has the flexibility to slide inside when the Chiefs shift out of their 3-4 alignment.

    Alex Magee of Purdue can also play inside and outside along the defensive line and supposedly can rush the passer. Magee was a value pick. Tennessee State running back Javarris Williams is 5-10, 223 pounds and scored a school-record 42 touchdowns over four seasons while rushing for 4,329 yards. Pioli nailed the Mr. Irrelevant pick, No. 256 and the final player in the draft, by choosing a kicker, Ryan Succop of South Carolina.
    Grade: B-
     
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    Miami

    West Virginia QB Pat White gives the Dolphins' Wildcat offensive formation a totally imposing element because not only can White run like Michael Vick, but he also possesses a very good deep-ball touch. Let me tell you, there were several teams that were considering White as a quarterback prospect, not as a receiver or running back. White was either the third or fourth quarterback on most teams' draft boards.

    The Dolphins upgraded their secondary with Illinois cornerback Vontae Davis, who slipped because he has off-the-field issues, and Utah's Sean Smith. A lot of teams rated USC receiver Patrick Turner as a sixth-rounder, but the Dolphins took him in the third round, 87th overall.
    Grade: B-

    Minnesota

    Oklahoma's Phil Loadholt is 6-8, 336 pounds. (Ronald Martinez / Getty Images)

    The Vikings added the draft's most intriguing playmaker in Florida's Percy Harvin, who has blistering speed and quickness, but also a positive marijuana test. Still, the drug issue didn't scare off Minnesota's coaching staff. Harvin could be a special weapon, considering Minnesota has the league's best running back in Adrian Peterson.

    In the second round, the Vikings took mountainous offensive tackle Phil Loadholt of Oklahoma. Big Phil is 6-8, 336 pounds. South Carolina ILB Jasper Brinkley had third-round value but slid to the fifth round.
    Grade: C

    New England


    Most teams will tell you that this year's draft was 40 to 50 players deep, so Bill Belichick did the wise thing trading down and out of the first round. He made several trades, giving him 33 total since 2000 and picked up some ammunition for next season in two second-round picks. Belichick really likes Oregon safety Patrick Chung and UConn cornerback Darius Butler, who was rumored to be his first-round pick initially. Those picks allowed him to trade cornerback Ellis Hobbs to the Eagles.

    The Patriots made a risky pick with North Carolina receiver Brandon Tate, who tested positive at the NFL Combine and is coming off knee ligament surgery. Penn State guard Rich Ohrnberger may have been a reach in the fourth round.
    Grade: B+

    New Orleans

    The Saints didn't have much firepower, but they did land the draft's best cornerback in Ohio State's Malcolm Jenkins. He's a very physical player with great ball skills. The Saints spent 90 minutes late Saturday on trying to get back into the first round in order to draft Ohio State running back Beanie Wells, but failed.

    Sticking with defense, the Saints selected two Wake Forest players in the fourth round in safety Chip Vaughn and linebacker Stanley Amoux.
    Grade: C

    New York Giants

    GM Jerry Reese really analyzed receivers in this draft after the release of big-time playmaker Plaxico Burress. So, Reese's first choice of North Carolina's Hakeem Nicks made a lot of sense. Nicks is polished and played in a pro-style offense. UConn offensive tackle William Beatty has great size and should develop into a reliable backup.

    Wisconsin TE Travis Beckum Ramses Barden of Cal Poly could be a real sleeper at wide receiver, considering he is 6-foot-6 and did play well against San Diego State and Wisconsin. South Carolina cornerback Stoney Woodson was a reach even in the seventh round.
    Grade: B

    New York Jets

    If USC's Mark Sanchez turns out to be the franchise quarterback a lot of teams believe he will become, then Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum made the best draft move of the year. Basically, Tannenbaum stole Sanchez on value because he jumped 12 spots in the first round while surrendering only New York's first and second-round picks to the Browns, well below the value chart. The Jets should have been forced to give up another second-round pick next year instead of three reserve players they no longer wanted.

    The Jets made another wise trade, moving into Detroit's spot atop the third round for Iowa running back Shonn Greene. Greene was the Big Ten offensive player of the year with 20 TDs and 1,850 yards rushing, a 6.0 average. RB is a definite need with Thomas Jones slowing down. And with the rumors of them possibly pursuing Plaxico Burress, you get the idea that Tannenbaum needed to make a splash in this draft.
    Grade: A
     
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    Oakland

    Darrius Heyward-Bey is the first receiver taken by the Raiders in the first round since Tim Brown in 1988. (Doug Benc / Getty Images)

    Maybe all the experts are stupid, but the Raiders were ripped for their top three selections. NFL Network draft guru Mike Mayock had low-round grades on both Ohio safety Michael Mitchell and Wisconsin linebacker Matt Shaughnessy, who was slipping down most team's draft boards. Yes, the Raiders have a need at safety with the disappointing play of former No. 1 pick Michael Huff. Reportedly, the Bears wanted Mitchell in the second round and that's why they traded out of the round.

    No. 1 pick Darrius Heyward-Bey may have been the fastest receiver in the draft, but he never had a 1,000-yard receiving season at Maryland and wasn't named to either the first or second all-ACC teams. Heyward-Bey was the first receiver taken No. 1 by Davis since Tim Brown in 1988. The Raiders took another track-star receiver in Florida's Louis Murphy, who ran a 4.32 40-yard dash at the Combine. I think the only way owner Al Davis wins with the talking heads on television is by going out and either hiring Mayock or ESPN's Mel Kiper. Bottom line, the Raiders are 24-72 since losing to Tampa Bay in the 2003 Super Bowl, but that doesn't mean Al is going to change his ways.
    Grade: C-

    Philadelphia

    When rating this draft, start by remembering the Eagles used a first-round pick for Buffalo offensive tackle Jason Peters, who has Pro Bowl talent. Peters will team with ex-Bengal Stacy Andrews to give Donovan McNabb two new protectors on the outside. Then, the Eagles lucked into Missouri receiver Jeremy Maclin, who was rated No. 1 at his position on 18 teams' draft boards. Then in the second round, Pitt running back LeSean McCoy was another steal with 53rd overall pick. McCoy will give Brian Westbrook a breather this season.

    Virginia Tech cornerback Victor Harris has only 4.6 speed, but he should be a core special-teams player. Harris did have 15 interceptions. You have to like the trade with New England in order to land cornerback Ellis Hobbs, who gives the Eagles some added depth in case they ever deal unhappy starter Sheldon Brown. Florida TE Cornelius Ingram could be a steal if his knee is OK.
    Grade: A

    Pittsburgh

    The Steelers took Evander "Ziggy" Hood, a very good inside pass rusher from the defensive tackle position. Hood was the only player the Steelers took in the first two rounds because they don't have many needs. They took undersized Penn State center A.Q. Shipley in the seventh round, but scouts think this kid knows how to play despite his limitations.

    The Steelers went for a two-gapping defensive tackle in Oregon's Ra'Shon Harris in the sixth round and took a blocking tight end in David Johnson of Arkansas State at the end of the seventh round.
    Grade: C

    St. Louis

    The Rams toyed with the idea of trading with the Jets, but didn't believe the offered compensation justified their second pick in the first round. Baylor offensive tackle Jason Smith should eventually become a left tackle and they passed on Rey Maualuga in order to draft Ohio State middle linebacker James Laurinaitis, a two-year captain with the Buckeyes. Laurinaitis should start immediately and he was taken over Maualuga because he actually can call the defense.

    The Rams went for defense in Iowa cornerback Bradley Fletcher and Clemson nose tackle Dorell Scott, who has some quickness. Scott was a three-year starter and collected 31 tackles for losses to go along with seven sacks.
    Grade: B
     
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    San Diego

    The selection of Northern Illinois pass rusher Larry English helps because of the loss of Igor Olshansky and with Shawne Merriman entering his final season contractually. It's difficult to argue with GM A.J. Smith, but a lot of teams ranked English as a second-round player. English, who started 47 games, had 31 1/2 career sacks and twice was named the best player in Mid-American Conference.

    Colorado State running back Gartrell Johnson proved his worth with a 285-yard effort against Fresno State in the New Mexico Bowl game. Johnson led the Mountain West Conference with 113.5 yards per game.
    Grade: B-

    San Francisco

    QB Nate Davis does not grip the football by the laces. (Gregory Shamus / Getty Images)

    Everyone referred to Texas Tech receiver Michael Crabtree as a "diva," but on the field he was the best receiver in college the past two seasons with 41 TD receptions while averaging 120.3 yards per game. The 49ers are definitely not worried about his foot surgery for a stress fracture. GM Scot McCloughan made a solid decision in swapping his second-round pick for Carolina's first-round pick next year.

    The 49ers took a flyer on Ball State quarterback Nate Davis, who has dyslexia, in the fifth round. Davis passed for 56 TDs vs. 12 INTs in his college career. Davis has an unusual grip on the football — he never holds it by the laces. Alabama running back Glen Coffee has a strong upper body, but he has to learn that he can't take on tacklers at the NFL level. Pitt linebacker Scott McKillop could be a steal in the fifth round. He has 211 solo tackles in 25 starts for the Panthers.
    Grade: B-

    Seattle

    There is a lot to like about Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry, possibly the safest top selection in the draft. Curry will start somewhere outside, plus he has the ability to rush the passer. GM Tim Ruskell received great value in trading his 37th overall pick to the Broncos for Denver's first-round pick next year. There's a great chance that pick will be among the top 15 selections in 2010.

    The lone downside of what Ruskell did this weekend was removing the franchise tag on OLB Leroy Hill, who rejected a $36 million, 6-year offer. This move could backfire, just like the silly decision not to franchise All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson two years ago. Hill now has the opportunity to sign elsewhere and the Seahawks would receive no compensation. Oregon center Max Unger was good value in the middle of the second round. Ruskell traded out of the fourth and fifth round. Cal tight end Cameron Morrah was very good selection at the bottom of the seventh round.
    Grade: B-

    Tampa Bay

    I'm not really convinced that the Bucs had to trade up in the first round in order to select Kansas State quarterback Josh Freeman. Young head coach Raheem Morris, who has connections at K-State, was very involved in this selection, something that Freeman revealed he knew about for a long time.

    Many rate Freeman as a project, but the Bucs had to do something at this position with only Luke McCown, Brian Griese and Byron Leftwich on the roster. Those three all have the reputation of being backups in the NFL. By making the trade, the Bucs ignored some of their defensive needs. Western Michigan cornerback E.J. Biggers has 4.35 speed.
    Grade: D

    Tennessee


    First-round pick Kenny Britt of Rutgers dropped too many passes for some teams to consider, especially the Giants, who looked hard at him. Britt did catch 149 passes over his last two seasons. Titans coach Jeff Fisher said he really likes Britt.

    Most teams believe that Auburn DT Sen'Derrick Marks in the second round was a huge reach for a one-gap performer who needs to improve his motor. It was a negative trading next year's second-round pick to New England for South Carolina tight end Jared Cook, who should provide some blocking and be a deep middle threat.
    Grade: C

    Washington

    After all the quarterback talk and trading-up possibilities, the Redskins were patient and had Texas DE Brian Orakpo fall into their lap with the 13th overall pick. Orakpo had some nicks, but some teams thought he was the draft's best edge pass rusher.

    The Redskins traded out of the second round and made a local pick in the third round with Maryland cornerback Kevin Barnes, who started 21 games and can be either a zone or man-cover cornerback. Nebraska LB Cody Glenn was suspended for his final three games and was ranked the 34th overall linebacker in the draft.
    Grade: C
     
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    Denver a B? Because they took a RB they thought we wanted??

    WUT???


    Detroit? A??


    They drafted the very last thing they needed, a TE.

    Culpepper is gonna get hurt within a month, then they're gonna throw Stafford in there and he's gonna get killed.


    Oakland gets an F, just because :lol:
     
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    In Peter King's column today, he said that his initial reaction to us selecting English was, "WTF?" but then he called personnel people around the league, which probably means he called the Pats scouting department, and they all said, "very good pick." :icon_shrug:

    English seemed to be the best 3-4 OLB pass rusher in this draft.
     
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    Funny, cause he's actually only played DE in college. Granted he was more of an OLB at DE but still, only a DE.
     
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    Cincy may have had the best draft of anyone.
     
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    Detroit got an A for not addressing their OL problems?

    One single OT in the 7th round doesn't fix the OL that has given up 52 or more sacks for the past 3 seasons, and almost 170 total in that timespan.

    They spend almost $80 million on Stafford, and didn't get anyone to keep him from breaking apart after two seasons.

    Yeah, that deserves an A grade. :icon_huh:
     
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    It's hard to go wrong when you finished 0-16.
    Only good thing about that is that you can only get better.
     
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    I'll get back to ya and evaluate this draft in 3/4 years OK. :tup:

    BTW, the Bengals will get an A out of me only for consistency. They consistently ignore a player's character problems and equally consistently pay the price for that ignorance.:icon_tease:
     
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    Since this is the first year in a long while without Matt Millen doing the picking, we'll see if it was Matt, or the Detroit FO in general, that should garner the majority of the blame.
     
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    Nope, Oakland get's a "C", for...........

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    Cryptkeeper!!!!!

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    They have a guy at LT that they franchised last year (backus), so they are obviously very high on him, and they drafted a RT in the 1st round last year (Cherilus), so what did you want them to do, draft a G or C in the early rounds?

    They got the best TE in the draft, who is also the best blocking TE to come out in a while, so that will help them on the line, and will get their franchise QB a safety valve.

    so they got the best QB, the best TE and the best S in the draft, what is there not to like about their draft?
     
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    We'll see if Stafford can actually keep upright, or if he'll suffer "David Carr" syndrome after a few years.
     
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    The problem is the two guys left behind from the Millian era are still running the club.

    The Lions need to clean house or Ford needs to sell

    :tdown:
     

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