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I missed the transition: NFL Pass Happy: Runningwhat?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by ThunderHorse17, Sep 13, 2011.

  1. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Im sure im not the only one who noticed (somewhat too late) how much the Leauge as a whole has turned to airing it out vs good ol fashioned Taclke breaking ball carriers.

    I wont consider this too much of a testimonial statistic source, but lookin over my week 2 fantasy matchup and I was lookin at the avgs for league wide for QBs and RBs.

    The average Passing yards through week 1 for all teams was: 215.9... call it 216 cuz I not a decimal fan.

    Tom Terfukiniffic tops off the crazy transition with 517 as you all well know. I dont have the statistics q'ed up right now, but I do have the Yahoo fantasy stats for this thread.

    Yea I dont know why we are doing this via Yahoo either....

    In any case RBs the avg tells a eye opening story about where all those extra passing yards came from, it wasnt out of nowhere like I would like to beleive. Top RB 150yds Leauge AVG for RBs: 26.7 mind you that there isnt a team in the leauge *other than a few individuals like AP* who give all the carries to one back. SO that avg is prob safe to double and consider most teams avg yds gained rushing by those primaries.

    Granted RBs did tear it up this week in terms of ydg per carry average. But alot more snaps that would normaly be divvied up into 20-25 run plays to 30-40 pass has now gone more like 15/50 and would explain alot of how and why so many QBs all of a sudden are rackin up 300 yd games.

    If this is how football is gonna be played then fine you guys win count me in on the 2 MORE GAMES!!! Lets just throw away the record books cuz were not playing NFL football anywhere close to how it was visioned/molded over the decades.
     
  2. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Oh McFadden got to 150, well I went to bed at the start of the 4th knowing DEN would lose I was good.
     
  3. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    ok The stats are in:

    16 NFL games played.... 24 INTs.... I know its week 1 and I know shortend offseason/camps/eval time.
    14 QBs threw for 300 or more Yds... would explain where all those extra INTs were coming from.



    1 Tom Brady NE QB 32 48 66.7 48.0 517 10.8 517.0 4 1 20 41.7 99T 10 2 1 121.6
    2 Cam Newton CAR QB 24 37 64.9 37.0 422 11.4 422.0 2 1 17 45.9 77T 8 2 4 110.4
    3 Drew Brees NO QB 32 49 65.3 49.0 419 8.6 419.0 3 0 20 40.8 36 6 0 3 112.5
    4 Chad Henne MIA QB 30 49 61.2 49.0 416 8.5 416.0 2 1 19 38.8 31 10 0 4 93.6
    5 Tony Romo DAL QB 23 36 63.9 36.0 342 9.5 342.0 2 1 18 50.0 64 5 2 4 101.9
    6 Philip Rivers SD QB 33 48 68.8 48.0 335 7.0 335.0 2 2 21 43.8 37 3 0 2 85.0
    6 Mark Sanchez NYJ QB 26 44 59.1 44.0 335 7.6 335.0 2 1 18 40.9 33 5 0 4 88.7
    8 Matt Ryan ATL QB 31 47 66.0 47.0 319 6.8 319.0 0 1 14 29.8 32 4 0 5 76.5
    9 Jay Cutler CHI QB 22 32 68.8 32.0 312 9.8 312.0 2 1 11 34.4 56T 5 2 5 107.8
    9 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 27 35 77.1 35.0 312 8.9 312.0 3 0 14 40.0 36 4 0 2 132.1
    11 Kevin Kolb ARI QB 18 27 66.7 27.0 309 11.4 309.0 2 0 10 37.0 70T 6 2 2 130.0
    12 Rex Grossman WAS QB 21 34 61.8 34.0 305 9.0 305.0 2 0 17 50.0 39 6 0 4 110.5
    12 Matthew Stafford DET QB 24 33 72.7 33.0 305 9.2 305.0 3 1 17 51.5 36T 4 0 0 118.9
    14 Kyle Orton DEN QB 24 46 52.2 46.0 304
     
  4. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    13 Receivers with 100 yard or better performances 90 or more Club: Forte, Austin, Bess, Branch, and A Johnson with 95 yds.

    Receiving TDs.... 53
    20 yd or longer receptions: scratch that 20 yd should be the avg for a Good QB so instead lets count the 40+ers: 17 and that is 17 different receivers/QBs.

    I think I have proven the NFL has gone Pass Pass Run.... eh maybe on the goal line.
     
  5. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    One last one cuz I did the math for the hell of it. Yea I do math for the hell of it. 170 DIFFERENT receivers made a catch through week 1.
     
  6. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Dont look too close at those stats or things will start to pop out at you that are like YAY/o dammit.

    Rivers had a better completion percent than Tom Teretskid at 68.8... Then you keep scanning and you see who else notched that mark and you might cringe.

    Oyea and alot of 40+ pass attempts from QBs this week. Maybe week 2 the focus will be on running the ball. I know this and the next reg season games are to be treated as training for teams since they obviously are playing catchup to some new innovative ways of playing football.
     
  7. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Consider that Peyton Manning didn't play either.

    53 recieving TDs to 14 rushing TDs is shocking.
     
  8. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    I didnt even start to look into the RB stats, but Raiders got McFadden 150 by running the ball a total of 39 times. I dont think there was one other team in the leauge that had that many.
     
  9. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Didnt take long for this story to break. Hell I did half the work right here lol.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-rewrite-passing-record-books-?module=HP11_cp

    Passing records set Week 1
    » Most quarterbacks with 300-plus yards passing at 14
    » Five games with two 300-yard passers
    » Touchdowns passes in season-openers with 54 (I thought I miscounted one lol)
    » Combined total passing yards in a game with 906 in the Patriots-Dolphins matchup
    » Most 400-yard passers in one week with four (Tom Brady, Cam Newton, Drew Brees and Chad Henne)
    » Total passing yards in one week with 7,842 yards

    The record books were rewritten in 2010, with new marks for touchdown passes (751) and points (11,283) established. Now, it's a small sample, but we're ahead of both paces at this point. Scoring is up 10.4 points per game from this time last season and the 54 touchdown passes in Week 1 are 15 more than a year ago.

    Good read tho on the rest of the story beyond the stats.
     
  10. Alpenbolt

    Alpenbolt BoltTalker

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    Goodell is ruining football.
     
  11. boltssbbound

    boltssbbound Well-Known Member

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    The transition happened about a decade ago.
     
  12. boltssbbound

    boltssbbound Well-Known Member

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    Repeatedly stating something does not make it true.
     
  13. HollywoodLeo

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    Goodell is the offensive coordinator of every team?
     
  14. Alpenbolt

    Alpenbolt BoltTalker

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    Perhaps not. But all the stats above support the case quite adequately. Chad Henne 400+ yards. 14 QBs with 300 yards passing. Enough said.
     
  15. bigmike.x.09

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    How does that have anything to do with Goodell?
     
  16. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    If Henne could throw for 400+ yds against the Patsies with the freaking Phish, what does that say about the chowderhead's defense and secondary??!! Hello!! Exploitation Central??!!
     
  17. boltssbbound

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    So you would prefer 3 yards and a cloud of dust? I didn't realize that one good week for pass offenses equated to "ruining the game." Besides, how is Goodell responsible? What rule changes has he pushed that have led to this? For as long as I've watched football, these things have been cyclical. In the early 80's, the offenses advanced far ahead of the defenses. Then by the mid 80s, the defenses had caught up. It's just the evolution of the game.
     
  18. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Yea I read the rest of the article after I posted the first little stat thing that basicaly was cut and paste off me I swear!!

    I was aware, but you cant deny that 2010 and now 2011 look to be the 2 largest rises of late and imo it has to do with how the NFL wants NFL to be played.

    Also seems to me the popularity of FF isnt going ignored by NFL owners as they seem to like a game with nothing but touchdowns. Provided those TDs arent on kick returns of course. *safety first*
     
  19. Alpenbolt

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    See other threads on this topic. In short he keeps making rules that are denutting the defenses ability to defend to the point where even average QBs can exploit them far too easily. Terrible QBs will always struggle in any case.
     
  20. boltssbbound

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    One good game by one QB does not support anything.
     
  21. HollywoodLeo

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    How do they support the claim? Is Goodell calling the plays for every team?

    Why is a lot of passing a bad thing anyway?
     
  22. Buck Blincoe

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    Watch for the Patriots to run up the middle more than a few times.
     
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    I hope to hell they do. Our run defense is up to the task. Brady scares me way more than the running game.
     
  24. bigmike.x.09

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    "We got some dogs up front, and they're going huntin'."
     
  25. ThunderHorse17

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    OF COURSE its the Defenses as a whole fault for all the Passing Yds.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15584795

    We had more passing yards (7,842) last week in the NFL than any other weekend ever, with 14 quarterbacks throwing for more than 300 yards.
    But here's an even more interesting stat: There were 122 passing plays of 20 yards or more.
    That's explosive, baby.
    The NFL has become a league of big plays in the passing game. Some of the reasons are the rules favor it and the quarterbacks might be better than ever as a group. There's one other big reason that I saw when re-watching the games for this column:
    More man coverage than ever.
    Many of the big plays came against man coverage, with the ball not even traveling down the field that much. When Tom Brady hit Wes Welker for the 99-yard touchdown on Monday night against Miami, Welker beat Benny Sapp in man coverage. The ball traveled 20 yards in the air.
    That looks to be the trend now for offenses. Find the man-to-man battles, throw quickly to beat the pressure, and watch the receivers run.
    Teams might change up in the second week, but the first week was loaded with plenty of man coverage, which is why we had so many big passing plays.
     
  26. HollywoodLeo

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    I'm still wondering why a lot of passing yards is a bad thing.
     
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    I like when there's more balance, hence why I find CFL boring.
     
  28. Buck Blincoe

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    Me too...the passing game is electric.
     
  29. Alpenbolt

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    Because the constant tweaking of the rules are making it artificially rewarding to focus on the pass and have ruined the balance of the game that has existed for 80 years. It is not like you have one or two freaks like Marino or Fouts outperforming the league. You have average dufuses putting up huge numbers. And yes the really crappy QBs will still put up crappy numbers. No amount of rule changes can help those guys.

    It is not based on one guy in one game. 14 guys threw for 300 yards. Come on.

    A natural ebb and flow of offense vs. defense schemes. Perhaps so, but I doubt it. Football has always been based on the assumption that a defensive player can pound the offensive player without mercy with a legal hit. This intimidaton factor is one of the things that kept the balance between offense and defense in proportion. This most basic tenant of the sport that legal trainwreck-like violence is not only expected but lauded is being removed from the game and it is ruining it and Goodell is responsible.
     
  30. HollywoodLeo

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    It's still just one week.

    Let's wait until a trend is created before we start going chicken little.
     

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