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Interactive Mock Draft - Chargers are On the Clock

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by DFlo, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. DFlo

    DFlo BoltTalker

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    Hey guys, I don't know if you may remember from last year or not when we ran the Interactive Mock Draft where the team forums of each team got to vote on which player their team should take.

    Well we are doing it again this year, and the Chargers are on the clock. For most of these votes, it's been pretty cut and dry but this pick is going to be interesting. Lots of potential options here, I'm curios to see how you guys vote.

    You can cast your vote for who you want your team to pick here:

    Interactive Mock Draft

    And if you explain why with a brief short description, I will pick the best one and publish it along with the pick in the results section!
     
  2. DFlo

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    Upshaw in the lead, going to let it run overnight
     
  3. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Gotta admit, I'd be a little dissapointed with Upshaw. He seems like a 6-8 sack max per year guy, more of a guy who's forte' is going to be playing the run.
     
  4. Dublin Bolt

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    I went for Dre. Jammer is almost done, not even sure he can make it through this year as starter material. And Gilchrist is probably not ready. We're lacking at CB all of a sudden. We can get a pass rusher later.
     
  5. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Whoa, nic perry shot ahead
     
  6. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Ding ding! I've moved off of Upshaw ever since we signed Double J. Really they're extremely similar players. High floor - in that you've got a guy who won't be a liability against the run out the gate, could cover some but shouldn't be relied heavily on for it, but ultimately isn't going to give you much more than 5-6 sacks/season on average and hasn't got much remaining in terms of a ceiling.

    At this point I don't view Upshaw as a 1st round pick unless it's to a team like Green Bay who is looking for someone to play opposite Matthews as more of a complementary player (not to mention they play more of a 2-4-3 or 2-5-2 than a traditional 3-4). And I'm willing to bet that Ingram, Perry, Mercilus, and Branch all may likely get drafted ahead of him.
     
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  7. Duffman57

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    Its gotta be Perry. AJ has consistently said that PASS RUSH is a priority, not OLB, and corrects people when they say OLB. We got that all around LB in Jarret Johnson, now its time to go after that bigtime pass rusher. Nick Perry has that type of explosion to consistently get to the QB, and develop into a full time starter over the next year or two.
     
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  8. BoltsFanUK

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    If Decastro is there- snap him up in a heartbeat, we need to replace Dielman and he is the best OG in the draft
     
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  9. Dublin Bolt

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    Nah my man TG is gonna dominate at LG this year... he'll be my adopted Bolt.
     
  10. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Would it make sense to put Johnson/Upshaw as our primary OLBs with Phillips and Barnes becoming the pass rush specialists? I think that could improve all around the pass rush. I think Upshaw is a more complete and experienced 3-4 OLB whereas Perry is alot more of a boom/bust pick which does concern me especially in light of English
     
  11. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Not really, IMO both guys (JJ and Upshaw) are run stoppers first and foremost. Perry is a better pass rusher than Upshaw, and doesn't give much ground to Upshaw in the run support catagory. And I think we have to remember both Phillips and Barnes are FA's after this year, if one or both end up leaving we'll be in the same position again next year being loaded with big strong slow OLBs (like the Patriots) and needing a pass rusher.

    I would not be surprised at all if Upshaw falls into the mid-late 20s. But again this is all just my opinion.
     
  12. DFlo

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    Alright guys the pick is in, your results are updated. You can see who your team selected here:

    Interactive Mock Draft Results

    Feel free to bookmark that page and continue voting daily. We will do one team every day until the draft
     
  13. DFlo

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    Duffman I used your description, thanks for this
     
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    You do realize that Perry will play OLB in our base D, right?
     
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    Yah, so...

    What i was saying is that, PASS RUSH is priority #1 for us not an OLB. But what i was meaning, is that we want the best pass rusher available. Sure Ingram or Upshaw may be the more able bodied all around OLB, but key #1 is pass rush, and Perry trumps Ingram and Upshaw in those categories, so that would be the preference for AJ.

    As for Upshaw/JJ starting with Barnes/SP95 as pass rush specialists. I dont like it. With Upshaw/JJ it basically gives us the same player on both sides of the ball. Both are decent, great against the run and dont give much pass rush. We dont want to have to bring completely new guys on the field every time they pass. So basically with JJ/SP95 starting, it gives us a good balance of run stopping and decent coverage ability with JJ, and then great coverage ability, and a good pass rusher, with solid abilities vs. the run in SP95. Barnes and Perry in passing situations is.....well....this is the only thing i can describe it with.....

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    Because that essentially gives us Perry's ability to play on the left side and be a solid pass rusher vs. LT's with his burst. And then Barnes vs. Slower, bigger RT's like Clary....Its basically like how we see Von Miller/Doom vs. Clary, and just give up. Thats what we would see with Perry/Barnes....lol
     
  16. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I'd be happy with this result.:tup: Perry is one of the few guys I see who both has the tools to be great, and more than 1 year of college production.
     
  17. Bolts4lyfe

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    We all agree on Perry which means with the 18th pick the AJ will take Jerel Worthy:tdown:
     
  18. Dublin Bolt

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    Wow check out the Rams result. All 21 of em in agreement, that can't be right can it?. Compared to us, our top guys gets only 27% of the votes. Just goes to show it's like throwing darts on who AJ will pick. No doubt he'll pick someone who wasn't even on our list!. I woulda gone for Mercilus if he a choice tbh.
     
  19. DenverBolt67

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    I don't really like it either.

    We need OLB's that aren't just good pass rushers, but 3 down guys who can play great in passing and running situations. We already have the pass rushing specialists, the problem is, when they are in, the offense knows what they are doing and therefor are not as effective. We need guys that can go after the QB, drop into coverage, and stuff the run so that offenses can't just game plan for the players on the field due to the limitations.

    I don't know who that is, but who ever it is, is the guy we should be targeting. We will be going after a pass rushing OLB, but that doesn't mean they will just look the other way if the guy sucks in coverage or in run support
     
  20. Buck Melanoma

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    No, we don't ALL agree on Perry. That may well be AJ's choice. It isn't mine unless we trade down.
     
  21. AnteaterCharger

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    Definitely don't agree on Perry - frankly i'm not sure OLB is the position we should be going for in the first round
     
  22. Dublin Bolt

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    Are you thinking corner like me?.
     
  23. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    No, safety honestly
     
  24. DenverBolt67

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    What do you think it should be? How can pass rush not be this teams #1 need?
     
  25. Duffman57

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    I disagree with this sorta. I think we need that beastly every down pass rusher that we had in Merriman or most successful 3-4's have (Woodley/Orakpo/Ware/Suggs) and the only one with that type of upside of upside in this draft (other than Bruce Irvin IMO) is Perry. I dont think that we need a guy thats going to drop into coverage a ton, we want a guy who is so good at rushing the passer that we never WANT to drop him into coverage. Obviously we need him to be good against the run, but i dont necessarily think that the SOLB or "Rush" LB position should necessarily need to be able to drop into coverage all that often.

    The truth is, right now, unless someone gets injured, nobody is uprooting JJ/SP95 as our starting OLB, but the key is PASS RUSH, and we really haven't addressed that yet. Perry is the guy who's the best pass rusher in the draft.
     
  26. DenverBolt67

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    The problem is, there isn't a safety that is expected to be available at 18. I agree that SS is a huge need, but none are expected to be there, and if trading up hurts our ability to get a pass rushing OLB in the 2nd, which it likely will, then I say hell no. Get an OLB in the 1st, and if we need to trade up to get Harrison Smith in the 2nd, so be it. But trading up in the 1st to get Barron, would cost us our 2nd rounder and hurt our draft overall
     
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    I don't think it needs to be a guy that will drop into coverage a lot, but they need to be able to do it just liek they need to be able to stuff the run once in a while. We need a great pass rusher that isn't a liability in the other aspects of the game. That is all I am saying
     
  28. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    I actually don't think Barron will go before us; the Cowboys need OL and CB help more than SS. The Eagles need tackle help in additon to DT/LB help and the Jets desperately need pass rushers and a RT. Even the Bengals need help elsewhere besides safety. I think Barron will land in our lap at 18 and I'll be honest I think I'd rather take him then any of the OLBs. Bigger immediate need and we can draft someone in the 2nd like a Ronnell Lewis or a Vince Curry to bring along as an OLB
     
  29. Bolts4lyfe

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    Not saying AJ will for sure go after Barron but the writing is on the wall, Everyone knows AJ "Loves Smith" could be smoke and mirrors to take away the attention on Barron, Barron probably not be ready to start the season so they brought in Bigby. I Cant wait to see what happens


    Also based off looks If Suggs and Suh had a baby it would look like Perry. If we do take him at 18 lets hope he plays like that
     
  30. Dublin Bolt

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    Anybody know what time the draft starts on the thursday?. I'm wondering what chance there is of me being awake for pick 18. Love the draft but hate that it has gone to something like Prime Time Eastern. Yes I know the reasons, TV = money but it sucks for us Euros.
     

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