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Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by szarmes, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. szarmes

    szarmes I am the Walrus

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  3. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Its pretty simple. We move up 14 spots, the Seahawks get Brandon Marshall, the Broncos get their 1st round pick........everyone is happy.:yes: Its not like anyone gets screwed, except maybe the Broncos who are hoping to extort the 6th overall pick, and instead would get the 28th pick.
     
  4. Dublin Bolt

    Dublin Bolt BoltTalker

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    Everyone is happy?, methinks the Broncos would not be best pleased getting pick 28 instead of potentially pick 6 or 14!.
     
  5. NORV4LIFE

    NORV4LIFE NO MORE NORV!!!!!

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    Yeh this sounds great. I love screwing the donkeys!! Then we can draft spiller too!
     
  6. Buck Melanoma

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    In a perfect world .... :yes:
     
  7. BoltzRule

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    The Broncos are refusing to negotiate right now, wanting the the 6th pick. The Seahawks would be willing to deal the 14th instead, so if the Broncos aren't willing to deal find someone else who will.

    For helping the Seahawks get Marshall for a lesser price, the Chargers would get rewarded for a higher pick. The only team getting screwed would be the Broncos, but they would deserve it for being greedy pricks.
     
  8. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I'm not sure why any team in the late 1st round wouldn't do this if its allowed. Whats stopping the Jets, Colts, Cardinals, Saints etc... and why haven't we ever seen it before?
     
  9. SDDon

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    The answer to your question is that this is the first uncapped year since 93. There have never been this many RFA type players around, and normally they are passed over for the UFA which don't cost anything in comp picks.

    I am not sure what the article is talking about in reguards to needing a poison pill to get arround a collusion claim by the union. We had talked at length about Poison Pills about a week ago on one of these boards and most felt it was a very little used trick at best.

    The downside for the Chargers is that the Seahawks are just using the interest by the Chargers to get the Broncos to give in and take the 14th pick from Seattle for themselves.

    I am not sure of the exact rules about certain types of trades but the Chargers should get some compinsation if they are just used as a pawn to force the Broncos hand. For instance the Chargers should recieve a 6th or maybe a player for just making the offer for Marshall to the Broncos, then there is a reason to do this.

    It would be nice to stick it to a division rival like the Broncos and move up 14 spots in the first round. That value is worth 440 points draft pick value chart, that is equal to the 46th pick (2nd RD).
     
  10. BoltzRule

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    Well:
    1. This is the 1st uncapped year, so there isn't a cap hit.
    2. This opens you up for retaliation, what's stopping the Broncos to get someone else to screw us over (VJ, McNeil). Like when Seattle retaliated against the Vikings for the Poison pill, although it didn't work out too well for the Seahawks.
    3. With the Labor dispute not sure owners are looking to screw each other over.
    4. The Seahawks could always change their mind about wanting Marshall, then you're stuck with him. You can't really complain you had a deal with them because then you're admitting to collusion.

    It seems nice but there is a downside. This is something you'd see come from the Raiders/Al Davis.
     
  11. Skuzzlebutt

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    The link isn't working for me, but I think I get the gist and its an interesting idea. Why wouldn't the Hawks trade us their first for our first and maybe a 3rd? It would be pure gravey for them because they get Marshall and a 3rd instead of Marshall and nothing.

    One thing which could stop this from happening is that the Broncos could match their offer sheet which would give the Hawks back the low first. Then they would be stuck and we wouldn't give back their high first rounder. The Broncos would be much less likely to match the offer sheet if it was the 6th overall pick...
     
  12. Moses

    Moses Can You Stand The Rain?

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    What would actually be weird is if we gave up the 1st and took Marshall...

    It would never happen, but if it did and Marshall behaved, then Philip would have Gates, Vinnie Jackson and Marshall to aim at, that would be crazy.

    But of course that is highly unlikely, but would be so funny to stick it to the Donkeys by taking their star player.
     
  13. BoltzRule

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    That wouldn't solve the current problem for the Seahawks. They would have no problem giving up the 14th pick for Marshall, but unless they work out a trade they'd end up giving their 6th pick, the Broncos (according to PFT) are refusing to negotiate a trade for the 14th pick instead taking the take it or leave it approach.

    So the proposal would be a way to get around it. The Seahawks get Marshall without having to give up the 6th pick and return the Chargers get rewarded for helping them out, but like I already mentioned there are negatives to it as well.
     
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    With the Chargers draft slot at 28 there are very few teams that could undercut us. That is why this works, the Seahawks can ONLY give up there own original pick, not one aquired in a trrade. Our originak pick is the 28th pick.

    This whole tender thing favors the better teams with lower draft slots, teams with higher slots could probally get an equal talent for less cost in player salery in the draft and they are not expectred to win now so they have some time to develop the draft pick.

    The Chargers need to lock the deal in before they do the offer to the Broncos. IMO, they should get something from the Seahawks no matter what happens just for trying, like a 6th round pick.
     

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